NC STATE vs GEORGIA TECH PREVIEW

Time: 1:00pm
TV: ACC Network
Announcers: Steve Martin, Mike Gminski

The Pack is coming off a 6 day rest after beating Maryland 65-56 without TJ Warren who was sitting due to a sprained ankle suffered during the previous game against Duke. The good news, TJ Warren is expected to play today. The bad news is he isn’t 100%. The other Pack players, while they didn’t shoot very well, appeared to learn that if they played tough defense and actually took a shot instead of waiting to see what Warren was going to do. Hopefully this is a lesson that won’t need to be learned again and with the influx of Buckets back into the lineup this will be a better Pack squad than we’ve seen this year.

The Yellow Jackets aren’t very good on offense, in fact they are average at best but they are pretty good on defense. This style of play appears to be a trademark of Brian Gregory’s teams at GT, who is another of the 2012 class of new coaches in the ACC. The only place they appear to be struggling on defense is causing turnovers, which I know the Pack are thankful for, but are very good at rebounding and limiting opponents second chance opportunities, which isn’t a good sign though they are struggling with Carter Jr. out of the line-up.

Georgia Tech has been bitten by the injury bug (from their game notes):

• Tech has played its ACC games this season with as few as eight scholarship players, competing without four members of the team who had combined for 22 starts and were key parts of the rotation at the start of pre-season practice – forward Robert Carter, Jr., swingman Jason Morris, and guards Travis Jorgenson and Solomon Poole.
Morris returned to play at Boston College after missing two games with a concussion.
• The absence of Carter, Jr., has hurt Tech in several ways, most notably on the glass, where the Yellow Jackets have been beaten on the boards three times in the six games the ACC’s leading rebounder has missed. Tech had won the rebound battle against all 13 non-conference opponents this season.
• The absences of Poole (missed last four games) and Jorgenson (knee injury on Nov. 20) have led to increased playing time for red-shirt freshman Corey Heyward, who missed last season with a knee injury of his own.
• Tech faced Pitt and Miami without four of those players – forwards Robert Carter, Jr. (knee), and Jason Morris (concussion), and guards Travis Jorgenson (knee) and Solomon Poole (migraine). Morris returned for the Boston College game on Jan. 21.
• Tech has been without sophomore forward Robert Carter, Jr., No. 1 on the ACC rebounding chart as late as Jan. 18, for its last six games after he sustained a tear of the meniscus in his left knee during the Yellow Jackets’ game at Charlotte Dec. 29. Carter, Jr., underwent surgery Jan. 7 and it is not yet known whether he can return this season.
• This is the second significant injury Tech has sustained since the season began. Freshman guard Travis Jorgenson, who had averaged nearly 20 minutes a game off the bench and was becoming a key reserve as a point guard, was lost for the season with a torn ACL in the season’s fourth game.
• Morris missed the Pitt and Miami games after suffering a concussion in a traffic accident Jan. 11, four games after getting back in the starting lineup. He was sidelined for Tech’s first 10 games this season after surgery to repair a stress fracture in his left foot.
• Poole, who started five games early in the year, has missed the last four games with a migraine and other medical issues.
• The Carter, Jr., Poole and Morris absences all came on the heels of a rotational adjustment Tech’s coaching staff made during the Christmas break and implemented for the Charlotte game. Morris was inserted in the starting lineup in place of a struggling Chris Bolden. Freshmen Quinton Stephens and Corey Heyward were given more prominent backup roles in place of Stacey and Solomon Poole, respectively, who were also struggling.

Probable Starters:
#23 Trae Golden (6-2 205 SR) Guard
#30 Corey Heyward (6-1 221 R-FR) Guard
#3 Marcus Georges-Hunt (6-5 219 SO) G/F
#24 Kammeon Holsey (6-8 234 SR) Forward
#5 Daniel Miller (6-11 275 SR) Center

Heyward has been pushed into a position he’s not entirely ready for and while that benefits the Pack the remaining 4 starters aren’t bad. Holsey and Miller are large threats around the basket, neither has taken a 3 this season. Golden (a senior transfer from Tenn) and Hunt are more dangerous in their versatility inside and outside the arc and getting to the line.

Bench:
#1 Stacey Poole (6-4 199 JR), #11 Chris Bolden (6-3 216 SO), #12 Quinton Stephens (6-8 184 FR), #14 Jason Morris (6-5 231 SR)

The Jackets are thin, extremely thin, when it comes to production due to their injuries. Stacey Poole and Bolden both have struggled this season and Morris hasn’t played much and has suffered a concussion this season. Looking at their ORatings Poole and Stephens are the only two who are putting up average numbers. Half of Bolden’s shots come from behind the arc and he’s shooting less than .300 from both so a soft coverage is okay if he gets the ball.

It’s no shock the Jackets have the edge in the 3 areas where the Pack are Facepalm awful. The problems arise in the fact the Jackets match up better against the Pack’s offensive strengths.

Once again the Pack’s poor defense shows, even against a poor offensive team.

Georgia Tech is a team the Pack should, and must, beat but basketball is a game of match ups and frankly the Pack just doesn’t match up well against the Jackets starting 5. This may come down to how well State’s bench performs.

Predictor:
KenPom likes the Pack by 7.

Series Shorts:
• Georgia Tech has split its last eight ACC road games, winning at Virginia Tech, Wake Forest, Miami and Boston College in that stretch. The Yellow Jackets won only three times in 36 ACC road games before that dating back to the 2008-09 season.
• NC State has won the last three meetings against Tech after the Yellow Jackets pulled off an 82-71 win over the Wolfpack on Jan. 11, 2012, which was the first encounter between Brian Gregory and Mark Gottfried as the teams’ head coaches.
• NC State swept the season series with Tech for the first time since 2008-09, capturing an 83-70 Wolfpack victory at the PNC Arena in Raleigh and a 70-57 win at McCamish Pavilion.
• The teams have split the last 12 meetings following a seven-game Tech skid. The Yellow Jackets have won twice at PNC Arena during that stretch, while the Wolfpack have won three times in Atlanta.
• Tech is 22-16 against the Wolfpack in Atlanta, including one home-court meeting that was played at the Omni in 1986 and one at Philips Arena in 2012.
• Since it joined the ACC, Tech is 29-40 against NC State, including regular-season and tournament.
• The Jackets are 9-30 against NC State in Raleigh, including a 2-10 mark at PNC Arena.
• Tech is 3-3 against NC State in ACC Tournament games, the last meeting occurring in 2003 in a 71-65 Wolfpack victory in Greensboro. The Jackets won first-round games in 1996 in Greensboro
(88-73) and 1990 in Charlotte (76-67).

Magic Number: 65
NC State is 12-2 when they score 65 or more points this season. (NCCU, WFU)
NC State is 6-7 when they allow 65 or more points this season.

Georgia Tech is 10-3 when they score 65 or more points this season. (Dayton, Mississippi, Pitt)
Georgia Tech is 3-7 when they allow 65 or more points this season.

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  • #38669
    Wufpacker
    Participant

    Wolfpack Women’s Hoops defeats GT on the road, 80-73 final.

    Now 18-3 overall, 5-2 ACC.

    #38670
    MrPlywood
    Participant

    Congrats to both teams. The women TCB and the men gut one out.

    #38671
    Rick
    Keymaster

    Glad to see both teams win.

    I promised top take my daughter to as game. It looks like the unc game will be the first

    #38672
    redcanine
    Participant

    No more Happy Meals for Wee Baby Seamus. That Burger Boy has grown an appetite. He hongry!

    Great game, Tyler.

    #38673
    tobaccordshow
    Keymaster

    Oh, wow.

    The refs had everything to do with that win. Very, very good game for the zeebs letting State play.

    To not see that is…well…absurd.

    Tell me you’re kidding, right? There was clear contact on the play. Either it was a block or a charge. That would’ve been a laughable no call. The fact of the matter is, the GT player used his forearm, extended his forearm, and shoved our guy to the floor. That is, by definition, an offensive foul.

    #38674
    TheCOWDOG
    Moderator

    Bill…I couldn’t concentrate on the zone D. I was too busy watching the REFS.

    Look, it seems clear to me that Gottfried has been spending a helluva lotta time tuning up the zone. It’s been my opinion that in this day and age, zones rule…aggressive zones, not laid back zones…pressure zones.

    One only needs to look Petino, for instance. State’s got one guy built for M to M in Barber.

    #38675
    TheCOWDOG
    Moderator

    Tshow, I’m dead serious. Every foul I saw called today was indeed a foul.

    You know that I can’t stand the predictable nature of certain fans.

    Even more apparent to me is that State gets bumped around goin’ to the hole a lot, because they go there out of control so much.
    You simply won’t get the call.

    Tshow, the zeebs had an average game.

    #38676
    choppack1
    Participant

    I will take the win….nc state may test the RPI formula. Right now, we have a very good RPI for whom we have beaten. We have been destroyed by good teams while eaking out a lot of victories. As a result, our kenpom and sagarin suck.

    Glad to see us win, especially glad to see t. Lewis play so well.

    #38678
    Prowling Woofie
    Participant

    Tyler and Vandy saved the day today…

    Good contributions by several players.

    Gotta rebound better the next two games – FSU and UNX

    #38679
    Rick
    Keymaster

    Tobacco,
    How do you send personal messed on this site?

    #38680
    tractor57
    Participant

    A link from the Greensboro News and Record on the game
    http://www.news-record.com/sports/article_e11c2b4e-86d1-11e3-a8fb-001a4bcf6878.html

    #38681
    BJD95
    Keymaster

    I thought we went zone more to cover for WBS (who is not suited to playing man defense, but did pretty well in the quasi-zone today – it looked like a hybrid junk defense to me, V would have been proud). WBS did VERY good work on offense today. If he keeps that up, he will certainly play more. I have never seen MG not play him when he’s going good. Problem is, he’s NOT been playing well before today, even worse – he had been tentative. Tentative Tyler is useless.

    Caveat – GT didn’t really have the personnel to exploit WBS on defense. That may not be the case with FSU, and DEFINITELY won’t be the case with U*NC. Locking down Paige is the key to beating the Holes. Though we could perhaps rely on Des to do that when Cat isn’t in the game.

    #38682
    Gowolves
    Participant

    The Pack had an advantage on points in the paint by a good margin but was out rebounded by I think 11. Don’t usually see stats like that.

    #38683
    Tau837
    Participant

    The first three pointer Tyler hit today could end up as one of the biggest plays of our season. It turned today’s game and could shake him out of his funk going forward.

    #38684
    TheCOWDOG
    Moderator

    Beej …I believe that you are damned near nuts on about the zone. It had elements of the matchup, but wasn’t.

    The extension was well done, sans the weak side, though.

    #38686
    Rick
    Keymaster

    Some interesting comments. I agree on Wbs, that could be the biggest shot. Bjd is right on the zone. Paige is key to unc. MacDonald is hurting unc in my opinion.

    One thing is obvious. Sometimes age brings wisdom, sometimes it just brings aches.

    #38687
    Wufpacker
    Participant

    Is it me (or maybe my TV), or is Clemson sporting a slightly less offensively creamsicle shade of orange than is usual?

    #38688
    Whiteshoes67
    Participant

    Loved seeing some more zone today. Our problem is that our best 5 on offense just aren’t the best 5 defensively. Doesn’t matter if we’re in man or zone. From the start of the year, I thought the best 5 on offense would be Barber/Lewis, Lee, Turner, Warren, and one of the bigs. I loved seeing Lee and Turner on the court together with Warren and a big. That’s clearly our most consistent offense. Lee really rebounds well out of the 2 spot, reminds me of Bruce Dalrymple from GT years ago. But unfortunately, our other slots don’t rebound as well. In the zone today, rebounding nearly killed us. We got crushed on the boards. I love Washington’s energy in the zone on defense. But I just don’t think he’s solid enough in the middle of the zone. Big V is much better equipped right now.

    #38689
    Wufpacker
    Participant

    One thing is obvious. Sometimes age brings wisdom, sometimes it just brings aches.

    Would that we could choose which.
    My left shoulder aches almost daily, but I don’t feel any smarter.

    #38691
    Rick
    Keymaster

    JMM has had a Terrance Morris type nba draft collapse.

    Toy cost him a fortune by convincing him to stay

    #38692
    choppack1
    Participant

    Go wolves – you that combo (more points in paint yet being out rebounded) almost every game we play vs. Decent rebounding team.

    If we rebounded better we would have enjoyed basketball a lot more this season and last.

    #38693
    Rick
    Keymaster

    Go wolves – you that combo (more points in paint yet being out rebounded) almost every game we play vs. Decent rebounding team.

    If we rebounded better we would have enjoyed basketball a lot more this season and last.

    This is true. There’s is no reason for us not to be better at rebounding. Plenty of size and athleticism.

    #38695
    BJD95
    Keymaster

    If KH had a vertical of more than 6 inches, he would be an unstoppable rebounder. His hands are incredible (in addition to his reach).

    Had GT made that last shot, you could fault MG for having WBS on the court defensively instead of Cat. WBS basically got a hand in front of his belly button on the release. Not much of a hindrance.

    #38702
    choppack1
    Participant

    Bjd – his offense-defense substitutions don’t always make sense to me. I thought it was a bad move to take vandy out on Wake’s last possession too.

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