NC State Wolfpack vs UNC-Greensboro Spartans

Joe Giglio (N&O)
Back to work, back on the road for NC State

N.C. State scheduled Monday’s game at UNC-Greensboro to give its players a chance to play in the Greensboro Coliseum before the ACC tournament.

After Saturday’s 68-64 home loss to No. 25 Missouri, the Wolfpack needs the game just to get the bitter taste out of its mouth.

N.C. State led Missouri for the first 36 minutes of Saturday’s game and by as many as 10 points in the second half. The Wolfpack (9-3) looked like it was on its way to an eighth straight win headed to Greensboro to face Wes Miller’s Spartans (7-7), who knocked off Virginia Tech earlier on Saturday.

But it was Missouri, not N.C. State, which kept its composure and made the clutch plays down the stretch in a lively PNC Arena on Saturday night.

“We really didn’t fall apart,” senior center Jordan Vandenberg said. “They just started hitting big shots.”

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The coach pointed to the Pack’s problems at the free-throw line, also a problem in the team’s loss to N.C. Central in November.

The Pack went 8-for-14 from the line, which is both a poor percentage (57.1) and not enough attempts. Freshman point guard Cat Barber was an uncharacteristic 2-for-6 from the line (he entered the game shooting 71.1 percent for the season), including a key miss of a front end of a one-and-one with 26.8 seconds left and State down one point.

“We didn’t make foul shots,” Gottfried said. “We missed some key ones.”

GoPack.com
Wolfpack Closes Successful 2013 Year At UNCG

UNCG (7-7) enters Monday night’s contest after claiming its biggest win of the year, a 55-52 win at Virginia Tech on Saturday. The Spartans also did it without their No. 2 scorer, Tevon Saddler. Saddler sat out the game with a foot injury and his status for Monday is unknown. Kyle Cain, a 6-7 junior who transferred from Arizona State, is UNCG’s leading scorer (16.1) and rebounder (8.6).

1. WRAPPING UP 2013
A victory in Greensboro Monday night would give NC State a 23-12 record for the 2013 calendar year. That would set the Wolfpack with a 47-23 mark during the combined 2012 and 2013 calendar years. Additionally, this is the second year in a row NC State has closed its calendar year against UNCG. Last year, the Wolfpack defeated the Spartans 89-68 at PNC Arena on New Year’s Eve.

UNCGSpartans.com
Game Notes

Spartans Versus The ACC . . .
UNCG will be playing its fourth team from the Atlantic Coast Conference this season and it third straight … The Spartans already played at North Carolina Dec. 7 (L, 81-50) and at Wake Forest (L, 59-51) prior to Saturday’s 55-52 victory at Virginia Tech .. The win over the Hokies was just the second all-time against an ACC program in UNCG men’s basketball history, improving the Spartans to 2-50 alltime in such games … The victory over Virginia Tech snapped a 23-game losing streak for the Spartans against the ACC dating back to their first ever win Nov. 9, 2007 at Georgia Tech.

Looking Back At Virginia Tech . . .
The Spartans picked up their second win over the Atlantic Coast Conference in program history Saturday with a 55-52 win over Virginia Tech in Blacksburg … UNCG rallied from an 11-point second half deficit as it out-scored the Hokies 23-9 over the final 10:06 of the game … The Spartans secured the victory by shooting 87.5 percent (14-of-16) from the free throw line while the Hokies only hit 56.5 percent (13-of-23) from the charity stripe … UNCG also committed just 13 turnovers in the victory and held its own against one of the top rebounding teams in the ACC as the rebounding battle was tied at 34-34.

Junior forward Kyle Cain and sophomore forward Kayel Locke combined for 33 points, including 23 in the second half, to lead the Spartans to the victory … Cain notched his fifth double-double of the season with 18 points and 10 rebounds as he was 8-of-14 from the field … Locke added 15 points, including 13 in the second half, as he was 4-of-9 from the field and 7-of-8 from the free throw line. Junior Nicholas Paulos added six points and did a strong job on the defensive end, limiting Virginia Tech top-scorer Jarell Eddie to just four points on 1-of-12 shooting … Freshman Tyrone Outlaw made his third start of the season and scored six points … Outlaw got the start after freshman Tevon Saddler was unable to go due to an injury.

Scouting The Spartans . . .
The Spartans enter Monday’s game with a 7-7 overall record and are coming off a 55-52 victory at Virginia Tech … Monday’s game is the final non-conference game of the year, giving the Spartans a chance at a winning record in nonconference play … The last time UNCG posted a winning non-conference record was in the 2007-08 season when it finished 7-4 out of conference play.

UNCG is averaging 72.1 points per game while allowing 73.7 points per game against … The Spartans have turned up their defensive play over the past three games, holding opponents to a 58.7 points per game while posting a 2-1
record against James Madison, Wake Forest and Virginia Tech.

Junior forward Kyle Cain leads the Spartans and ranks seventh in the Southern Conference in scoring at 16.1 points per game … Cain also leads the team and ranks second on the glass grabbing 8.6 rebounds per game … He is shooting 52.8 percent (94-of-178) from the field and 76.1 percent (35-of-46) from the free throw line… Freshman guard Tevon Saddler is second on the team in scoring at 11.8 points per game and leads the team with 45 assists.

Sophomore forward Kayel Locke is third on the team in scoring at 11.6 points per game and second on the glass, grabbing 4.8 rebounds per game … Locke is shooting 72.1 percent (44-of-61) from the free throw line … Junior Nicholas Paulos rounds out the Spartans averaging double figures at 10.2 points per game while grabbing 3.4 rebounds per game … Paulos has hit a team-high 37 three-pointers and is shooting 36.3 percent from long range.

1.21 Analysis

The Spartans aren’t good at much, in fact they are pretty bad, which is why they have a #299 rating from KenPom. They are good at defensive rebounding (surprising considering their lack of size) and not getting their shots blocked. They are above average at shooting the 3 and defending it. Plus they are an uptempo team with 70 possessions per game.

Probable Starters
#1 Drew Parker (6-1, 178, SR) Guard: ORating= 88.7, 5.7% shots, eFG= 33.3%, AstRate= 20.6, TORate= 34.1

#13 Kayle Locke (6-5, 240, SO) Forward : ORating = 102.4, 23.2% shots, eFG= 47.2%, OReb= 10.5%

#14 Kyle Cain (6-7, 210, JR) Forward : ORating= 110.3, 29.8% shots, eFG= 53.7%, OReb= 10.1%, DReb= 21.9%

#31 Nicholas Paulos (6-7, 185, JR) Forward : ORating= 111.6, 20.7% shots, eFG= 55.9%, 3Pt= 37-102 (.363)

#44 Tyrone Outlaw (6-6, 205, FR) G/F: ORating= 112.6, 21.3% shots, eFG= 46.0%, steal= 2.7%

Paulos will only shoot the 3, there’s no need to focus on him otherwise but please guard him beyond the line, he’s their only consistent 3pt shooter and he’s not easy to lose sight of since he’s 6-7. Parker isn’t a scorer, he’s going to pass but he’s also going to turn it over. Focus on Cain, along with Paulus and Saddler, and you’ll shut them down. Saddler is normally in the starting lineup but due to a foot injury he had to sit out of the VT game, whether we see him or not who knows.

Bench
#0 Kevin Saddler (6-4, 207, FR) Guard : ORating= 83.6, 22.7% shots, eFG= 40.4%, AstRate= 24.4%, FTRate= 80%
#34 RJ White (6-8, 280, FR) Forward
#20 Jordan Potts (5-11, 170, SO) Guard
#3 Diante Baldwin (6-0, 189, FR) Guard
#32 Jordy Kuiper (6-9, 238, FR) Forward

The Pack shouldn’t have a problem with the Spartans but they also can’t take them lightly because they can rise up and beat them if the Pack expects to roll the ball out and win. This needs to be a tune up game for the Pack before heading into conference play against Pitt. The Pack needs to get the last kinks out and start getting into a flow again on offense.

NOTE:
– Kyle Cain started 40 games at ASU while playing for the Fighten Sendeks.
– UNCG is coached by UNC alum Wes Miller.
– UNCG all time record vs the ACC is now 2-50 after upsetting VT the other night. The other win was against GT in 2007/08.

KenPom likes the Pack by 11, I think it’ll be 20.

About 1.21 Jigawatts

Class of '98, Mechanical Engineer, State fan since arriving on campus and it's been a painful ride ever since. I live by the Law of NC State Fandom, "For every Elation there is an equal and opposite Frustration."

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  • #33814
    wufpup76
    Keymaster

    I hope it’s skiddish youth, Whiteshoes … I really do.

    The other team took it to us, not the other way around. Mental does seem to be a lot of it.

    Would love to know what happened at the end of the game there … not a good look. I’m sure they (someone) did something to Warren, but if teams know they can punk us they will.

    #33815
    Alpha Wolf
    Keymaster

    I like Gott’s cool demeanor with a young team BUT sometimes you gotta get in these guys faces and get them riled up…

    Normally I would agree with you, but ask yourself if you wanted Buckets even more riled up than he already was.

    #33816
    bill.onthebeach
    Participant

    –Whiteshoes…. you nailed it…. but may I ask you one question…

    When and who was the last game our Coaches were visibly effective during the last ten minutes?

    #NCSU-North Carolina's #1 FOOTBALL school!
    #33817
    BrickyardMayhem
    Participant

    How about Barber, Vandy and Lee?

    #33818
    bill.onthebeach
    Participant

    Coach is tripping on the radio post game….

    Said he thought we got ‘good shots’ at the end of game which sealed the victory.

    He does have better seats than we do.

    #NCSU-North Carolina's #1 FOOTBALL school!
    #33819
    spintk
    Participant

    We have all heard of “encouraging losses,” well, I guess this is a discouraging win. Everything from the intensity of the players, the offensive sets we were running, and the overall “smarts” of this team is probably on the same level the one last year. With the coaching staff we have sitting on the bench, we should be showing tremendous improvement game in and game out; instead, it’s the same old same old.

    Cheers

    #33820
    spintk
    Participant

    Coach is tripping on the radio post game….

    Said he thought we got ‘good shots’ at the end of game which sealed the victory.

    He does have better seats than we do.

    His post-game remarks have become cliché. I wonder what he will say about letting a 17 point lead slip away.

    #33821
    ruffles31
    Keymaster

    Hopefully they can deal better with playing ACC teams that have a little more height (see game vs. Tennessee).

    #33822
    wufpup76
    Keymaster

    On a lighter note, the Oregon cheerleaders are on tv.
    Oregon hotness

    #33823
    Wulfpack
    Participant

    I know good basketball when I see it, and that wasn’t it. Credit UNCG. But we gotta be better than that if we want to be taken seriously nationally. We better have a big time conference run in is or else we ain’t sniffing tourney play.

    #33824
    Alpha Wolf
    Keymaster

    Around the 15:00 mark of the second half and leading by a dozen or so, our team decided to take the rest of the night off. They stopped working on offense. They started flailing on defense and not working through screens. I guess they decided that they had already won the game.

    WBS was sent in obviously instructed to put some energy into things on the offensive end, and he tried, but the rest of the players, TJ included, didn’t seem all that interested.

    They let the other team whittle away the lead and even gave them a chance to get ahead…fortunately, they just weren’t talented enough to do it.

    That has to stop. Basketball games are forty minutes long and a 12-15 point lead ain’t much when there’s more than two minutes left on the scoreboard.

    #33825
    bill.onthebeach
    Participant

    Wofpack said…”I know good basketball when I see it, and that wasn’t it… ”

    This is Tobacco Road… and most of us have played better ball than what we saw tonight.

    #NCSU-North Carolina's #1 FOOTBALL school!
    #33826
    wufpup76
    Keymaster

    “His post-game remarks have become cliché. I wonder what he will say about letting a 17 point lead slip away.”

    ^This is fair, but I like his positivity … this is a young team. The biggest problem I have with the lead slipping away (see also: Detroit, Tenn) is that we didn’t respond – at all – to the other teams’ punches. The other teams played looser and tougher … We have to do something about that.

    #33827
    ILPackfan
    Participant

    Alpha, I couldn’t agree more. This team cannot afford to let up, especially going into conference play.

    #33828
    wufpup76
    Keymaster

    Queue “State has a habit of blowing leads” from every color announcer we hear for the rest of the season.

    #33829
    redcanine
    Participant

    Coach is tripping on the radio post game….

    Said he thought we got ‘good shots’ at the end of game which sealed the victory.

    He does have better seats than we do.

    Sorry Coach, but I’m not hearing that junk tonight.

    #33830
    spintk
    Participant

    Queue “State has a habit of blowing leads” from every color announcer we hear for the rest of the season.

    Yep. And I can’t say that it’s not deserved. Concomitantly, queue State fans whining about every color announcer remarking how we blow leads. Respect is earned.

    #33831
    Gowolves
    Participant

    They played with a small lead with TN. Yeah they cam back but we were expected to lose to them. I think they showed composure in that game. Also did for 55 minutes against Mizzou. Like people have said its a young team. It’s going to be process. They will be some bumps.

    #33832
    bill.onthebeach
    Participant

    Somebody will say “We only had one day to prepare for this game…”

    But the way I see it…

    We played two “short” teams in a row…. The same “game plan”, IF EFFECTIVELY EXECUTED, ( the entry pass to BIGS ON THE BLOCKS OFF A SET PLAY ) should have brought us two DOUBLE DIGIT wins.

    And I ain’t taking NO for an answer… and neither should anybody else.

    #NCSU-North Carolina's #1 FOOTBALL school!
    #33833
    Alpha Wolf
    Keymaster

    My thought on post-game interviews: if Gottfried tells you how he really feels, he’d be excoriated for throwing his team under the bus. If he covers up for them by reverting to Coach Speak, he’s not being honest. Sounds like a “can’t win” kind of deal.

    Thing is, I don’t give a flip what he says in post-game, that’s mostly for people driving home from the game. What I do care about is what he tells the team and the other coaches behind closed doors.

    Look at this way: remember after State lost to Duke a couple of months ago in football, and Dave Doeren said a lot of positive things in the post-game radio interview? From other reports, after the game you could hear him yelling at the players in the locker room from twenty yards outside the door. Obviously, what he said and what he knew and believed were different things.

    You can bet it is the same for Coach Gottfried.

    #33835
    bill.onthebeach
    Participant

    AW… you might be right…
    but… I like this guy….

    <iframe width=”640″ height=”360″ src=”//www.youtube.com/embed/CQKbLsoCt28?feature=player_embedded” frameborder=”0″ allowfullscreen></iframe>

    #NCSU-North Carolina's #1 FOOTBALL school!
    #33836
    Pack78
    Participant

    You can bet it is the same for Coach Gottfried.

    Agreed; DD and Gott ain’t here to win friends…

    #33837
    JohnGalt78
    Participant

    I agree with everything everybody said. Now, can we get back to the Oregon Cheerleaders…

    #33839
    redcanine
    Participant

    AW, you talking about Coach Knight?

    oh well, link not linking

    #33842
    vtpackfan
    Participant

    In a pick up game at the Y Buckets would score his teams first 9 in a game to 11.

    Better have a closer.

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