ACC/B1G Challenge – 2013 Edition

The Pack doesn’t get its shot at the Wildcats of Northwestern until tomorrow (PNC Arena, 7:30pm, ESPNU), but there are still six games tonight (at least two of which I have at least lukewarm interest in), and then six more tomorrow night.

The ACC holds an all time series lead vs The B1G by a 10-3-1 record.  HOWEVER, the ACC has not won this thing in 4 years (0-3-1 last four years, last year ended in a 6-6 tie).

NCSU is only 5-8 all time in the challenge, but are 4-2 at home.  A late run fell short for the Pack last year vs Michigan in Ann Arbor.


Daily Word: Ready for Big Ten/ACC Challenge? (

The ACC-Big Ten Challenge will be fun (but not what it could’ve been) (

Northwestern at NC State: I’m not sure NC State fans are preconditioned to get excited about Northwestern. But don’t look at it that way, guys. That’s a Blue Devil (ex-Duke assistant and player Chris Collins) coaching the Wildcats! You fired up now?

Prediction: NC State 69, Northwestern 65

ACC/Big Ten Challenge preview (

First to 50 Wins?

Wisconsin and Virginia meet Wednesday night (7 p.m. ET) in what may be the most evenly matched game of the Challenge. Fans of track meets should look elsewhere, however, as both the Badgers and Cavaliers rank in the bottom quarter of D-I in possessions per game. When you consider the basketball ethos of the two men on the benches, the snail’s pace should come as no surprise. Both Tony Bennett and Bo Ryan value precise offensive execution and solid, stay-in-front-of-your-man defense above all else. Oh, and that match-up at the three between Virginia’s Joe Harris and Wisconsin’s Sam Dekker? What a dandy.


Games Schedule

Tuesday, December 3


  • Illinois @ GaTech (-2) – ESPN2
  • Indiana @ Syracuse (-7) – ESPN


  • Penn State @ Pitt (-13.5) – ESPNU


  • Michigan @ Duke (-7) – ESPN
  • Notre Dame @ Iowa (-7) ESPN2


  • Florida State @ Minnesota (-3) – ESPNU


Wednesday, December 4



  • Northwestern @ NC State – ESPNU


  • Carolina @ Michigan State – ESPN
  • Boston College @ Purdue – ESPN2


  • Miami @ Nebraska – ESPNU

ACC teams in the ‘left out’ games…..

Tuesday: VT hosts Winthrop (7pm) and Clemson welcomes SC State to town (7pm)

Wednesday: Wake hosts Tulane (7pm)

So, with all due respect to VT, Clemson and Wake, just swapping those three out for ‘Cuse, Pitt and ND should up the ACC’s chances to get back in the win column.

Hopefully the Pack learned a bit this past Saturday (mostly about themselves), and are on their way toward being the team we hope they can become.

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51 Responses to ACC/B1G Challenge – 2013 Edition

  1. wufpup76 12/03/2013 at 7:06 PM #

    Sweet, thanks for the open thread.

    I don’t like Swofford’s the Acc’s chances, but we’ll see.

    Be interesting to see how Duke looks tonight. They’ve been getting killed defensively. The league office can’t possibly like that, emphasis on the rules of the game be damned.

  2. bill.onthebeach 12/03/2013 at 7:49 PM #

    Well… we are off to a great start…

    Swoff’s got his “best” zebras up in the CarrierDome with Boeheim and ‘Cuse….

    yep… that’s right… KH and his sidekick…Jamie Lucky.
    and they’re blowing the whistles every 51 seconds*… evenly so far on both ends.
    (14 fouls in 12 minutes)

    More importantly, that should mean they won’t be in Raleigh tomorrow night.

  3. Wufpacker 12/03/2013 at 7:56 PM #

    LOL bill. I was just getting ready to post the exact same thing re: KH and JL.

    But don’t underestimate the universe’s (and the league’s) penchant for irony. There are plenty of red-eye’s b/w Syracuse and RDU I’d guess.

  4. wufpup76 12/03/2013 at 7:57 PM #

    ^Every Pack fan’s favorite color commentator is in the Carrier Dome as well … Dakich.

    Dakich is ok, but he’s come off the rails tonight. Trolling bigtime, calling out everything. Still thinks football should be played on the hardwood. Sigh.

  5. Wufpacker 12/03/2013 at 8:03 PM #

    Haha…I think Dakich is on drugs. If he’s not, he should be.

    I’ve watched a few games he’s done this year however, and have yet to hear ‘keep your chin on the rim’. So that’s something.

  6. Wufpacker 12/03/2013 at 8:06 PM #

    In case anyone gives a rat’s fat behind about the other two games in progress….

    Team bad touch, basketball version, leads Pitt 19-17 with just under 6 in the 1st half.

    GT is up on the Illini going to halftime, 36-33.

  7. wilmwolf80 12/03/2013 at 8:07 PM #

    Was going to watch Indy and Cuse, till the game comes on and I see Dan Dickitch on the screen. I’ll be passing on that one. Even on mute I can feel his idiocy through the TV.

  8. TheCOWDOG 12/03/2013 at 8:15 PM #

    Basketball, if that’s what ya call it, is totally unwatchable. Complete and utter crap.

    Widen the floor about 3ft. and the lane at least a foot, and it would least resemble rugby, as it does now.

  9. bill.onthebeach 12/03/2013 at 8:24 PM #

    For the record…. the “chin to the rim” was somewhere around the 11-12 minute mark in the first half.

    and also for the record…. given the choice of Dakich or DumbAssDickie…. I’ll take Dakich everytime.

    The only way I can figure Dickie still has a job is he must have signed a lifetime – nocut contract with ESPN in 1979.

    Funny how the whistles slowed down (only 4 fouls called the last 8 minutes of the half ) AND the Hoosiers close to Down only 5.

    Go figure….

  10. wilmwolf80 12/03/2013 at 8:32 PM #

    Vitale and Dickitch are like the yin and yang of announcing. Vitale is so gushingly, mind-numbingly positive about everything, and Dickitch is so condescending and boorishly negative. I think that if they ever announced a game together, the results would cancel each other out, and result in a glorious silence.

  11. wufpup76 12/03/2013 at 8:34 PM #

    ^Cowdog, I think the new emphasis on the rules / calls is slowly but surely starting to change things (much to the chagrin of Dakich).

    I made the below quote on BTP, and someone followed-up with a link to a Pomeroy article …

    Some coaches don’t like it, but their points against thus far have amounted to fairly lame excuses with no data: “It’s slowing down the game; too many fouls; blah blah”

    The point is, teams are adjusting and there have actually been some better flowing games over the past week or so. Anyhoo, below is my worthless $.02 for anyone interested:

    “I’ve noticed over the past week or so is that teams are definitely adjusting to the new ref emphasis on the actual rules of basketball.

    I don’t have hard data or examples (apologies), but I saw a lot of games over the past week – particularly this past weekend – where teams had fouls to give at the end of games. It’s been a long time since I’ve seen this on a regular / consistent basis. It’s my opinion that this is a really good occurrence for college basketball.

    Teams with fouls to give happened in the UAB-Hole game – even when it looked as though UAB would collectively foul out in the first half. State gave up six free throw attempts against (an admittedly outside oriented) EKU. Several of the holiday tournament games over the weekend had actual strategy involved of when to give a foul late when you’re ahead. I thought it would have / take a much longer adjustment period, but teams are adjusting and games really are flowing better (and yes, for now, there is a ton of zone play).

    Anyway, I just hope this continues in ACC league play … And I hope the days of one team (read: the blues) being allowed to be balls-out aggressive while the other team is ‘restricted’ are over. Looks like there could be a lot of ‘upsets’ this season. Players look to have much more of a say of how a game is decided as opposed to how a game is called (and ultimately decided). I’m all for this, and glad that it seems skill (i.e., putting the ball in the hoop, playing position-based D while moving your feet, rebounding by being in better position rather than winning a Ric Flair battle, not having offensive flow undercut by flops and grabs) will be deciding more games in the future.”

  12. bill.onthebeach 12/03/2013 at 8:40 PM #

    DumbAssDickie is definitely “mind-numbing”….

    Until they both learn to ‘shutup’ and that whatever they’re saying off the top of their heads ‘ain’t that important or accurate’…. don’t think a double dose of DD would work on the air….nothing but red lights on the sound board in the truck.

    Ten whistles from the ShowGirls in the first eight minutes of second half and Hoosiers go backwards — now down 12….

  13. BJD95 12/03/2013 at 9:10 PM #

    Looks like the Bees will be the only ACC loser this block of games. I don’t think I can stay up for the rest.

    Tomorrow is a big day, with Everton at United (2:45, NBCSN) before Pack/NW.

    Chris Collins may be my second most hated Dook player, after only Christian Laettner. I hope we destroy them a little extra, just for that.

  14. Rick 12/03/2013 at 9:30 PM #

    Bjd you were wrong again. Ie is looking like 3-0 for the acc

    And I heard the infamous ‘chin on the rim’from the human douche bag.

  15. Rick 12/03/2013 at 9:33 PM #

    Btw golden corral and it’s the chocolate fountains are everything that is wrong with the us

  16. Wufpacker 12/03/2013 at 9:34 PM #

    Yup, unless Pitt has a complete collapse in the last minute, the ACC has staked itself to 3-0 early cushion.

  17. Rick 12/03/2013 at 9:57 PM #

    Dakich is the human equivalent of cow dung

  18. bill.onthebeach 12/03/2013 at 10:07 PM #

    ShowGirls finish with 42 in the Dome.

    Dookies playing D like the SeaHawks….
    Zebras letting ’em play — Mich 5 fouls; Dook 8 fouls with 2 mins left in the first.

    Michigan will come back strong after the half.
    stay tuned….

  19. Wufpacker 12/03/2013 at 10:11 PM #

    Iowa up 9 on ND at the half, 52-43.
    Duke up 10 on Michigan, also at the half, 32-22.

    FSU/Minny to tip in about 20 mins (just the tip).

  20. Wufpacker 12/03/2013 at 10:32 PM #


    Sorry ’bout that. This whole west to east time conversion thing still fuxors with me at times.

    FSU down 6 to Minny at the half, 33-27.

  21. wufpup76 12/03/2013 at 11:04 PM #

    Looks like it’ll wind up 4-2, though ND and FSU are still very much in their respective games. Duke doesn’t look like they’ll blow win #4 for Team Swofford.

  22. PackerInRussia 12/04/2013 at 3:25 AM #

    A little disappointed we didn’t get the classic ACC/Big Ten matchup of Notre Dame v. Nebraska.
    I’ve gotten used to seeing Pitt and Syracuse when I look up ACC football scores, but it had completely slipped my mind about Notre Dame until looking through scores and realizing that their game was part of the Challenge. Crazy world we live in.

  23. BJD95 12/04/2013 at 7:22 AM #

    I watched the Bees come back, then went to bed. Good job for the league, as I notice that three Top 10 Big Ten-ish teams face unranked ACC foes tonight. GT’s win means we have at least an even shot at a split or better.

    Formally, I would predict another 6-6 tie.

  24. Fastback68 12/04/2013 at 8:38 AM #

    Well, it seems the Pack is favored by double digits while the holes are all most double digit dogs per Vegas. Is this the episode where George and Elaine swap places? I’m unemployed and live with my parents.

  25. 13OT 12/04/2013 at 1:44 PM #

    This is Swofford’s ACC, not mine.

    I wish the B1G would win it 11-1 (with NCSU the only ACC win, of course).

    I can no longer root for the ACC, just the Wolfpack.

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