Wolfpack fans continue to be the greatest

12-13 Basketball Fans27

Death. Taxes. And, the unwavering support of NC State fans.

NC State ranked 12th nationally in average attendance for the 2012-2013 basketball season averaging 16,299 fans per game. This was the second largest gain in average attendance throughout the country, trailing only UCLA who ‘packed’ them in with an average of just 9,459 fans per game. Click here for link the full release and raw data.

Rank School G Attendance Average
1. Kentucky 18 415,775 23,099
2. Syracuse 19 426,347 22,439
3. Louisville 16 345,129 21,571
4. North Carolina 16 309,603 19,350
5. Indiana 19 330,832 17,412
6. Creighton 17 291,643 17,155
7. Wisconsin 18 303,172 16,843
8. Tennessee 17 282,794 16,635
9. Ohio St. 18 297,428 16,524
10. Kansas 18 295,889 16,438
11. Memphis 18 294,044 16,336
12. North Carolina St. 17 277,087 16,299
13. BYU 18 287,750 15,986
14. UNLV 22 334,320 15,196
15. Marquette 16 240,530 15,033

Since the ESA/RBC/PNC opened for the 1999-2000 season, NC State has ranked in the Top 25 of national attendance every season. If one were to compare the results of the NC State program to the results of the peer set of Top 25 attendance since 1999 then one would see that very few, if any, programs who delivered less success. NC State fans truly are THE BEST!

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27 Responses to Wolfpack fans continue to be the greatest

  1. VaWolf82 08/19/2013 at 9:39 AM #

    Everyone bookmark this thread so that you will have a quick answer the next time someone starts up the nonsense about needing to move back to Reynolds.

    I haven’t looked at this list recently, but I was surprised to see that UMD had dropped to 25th. If memory serves, they have pretty consistently ranked several spots ahead of State in the past. I’ll have to see when they fell below State.

  2. TruthBKnown Returns 08/19/2013 at 10:31 AM #

    The desire to move back to Reynolds has nothing to do with trying to sell more tickets. Those folks want to play in Reynolds because they argue that we play better there and the home field advantage helps us more. Kind of like Cameron Indoor.

  3. VaWolf82 08/19/2013 at 10:39 AM #

    Those folks want to play in Reynolds because they argue that we play better there and the home field advantage helps us more.

    And they never have a plan for what to do with the people that are going to have their seats and tickets taken away.

  4. Master 08/19/2013 at 10:44 AM #

    Reynolds fans remind me of the folks ho can’t get over the fact that MacGyver is no longer on TV. It’s done we play at PNC!

  5. TruthBKnown Returns 08/19/2013 at 10:58 AM #

    I didn’t say it was realistic. I know a return to Reynolds can’t and won’t ever happen.

    But I think they’re right about the home court advantage being better in Reynolds than in the PNC/RBC/ESA.

    I just wish we had never left.

  6. rdjennin 08/19/2013 at 11:12 AM #

    To me, I think attendence as a % of capacity is an important measure, what if Michigan’s average attendence was 70,000 per game for football??

  7. Wufpacker 08/19/2013 at 11:44 AM #

    The home court advantage at PNC will be just fine when there is a quality product put on the floor consistently.

    Hopefully we’re at the inauguration of just that sort of era.

  8. tjfoose1 08/19/2013 at 12:18 PM #

    u*nc @ #4.

    I don’t doubt they are high on the list, but how many of those schools use the same u*nc math that is used to calculated attendance at Kenan Stadium?

  9. oakcity 08/19/2013 at 1:07 PM #

    Pretty poor performance by the **real** ACC: #4, #12, #25, #44, 46, 47, … you get the point. For supposedly one of the best basketball conferences, I would’ve expected more in the top 40. But I guess it doesn’t hurt to add Cuse, Pitt, & Louisville to get that.

  10. old13 08/19/2013 at 1:50 PM #

    IMO, percentage of capacity would be a better measure.

    Speaking of the greatness of Wolfpack Nation fans, football season tickets and 5-game packages are sold out as are almost all of the games:

    http://www.gopack.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/081913aad.html

  11. LRM 08/19/2013 at 1:54 PM #

    Those folks want to play in Reynolds because they argue that we play better there and the home field advantage helps us more. Kind of like Cameron Indoor.

    The argument is always nostalgic. But the fact is, it wasn’t much of a home court advantage from 1992-1999.

    I always felt we were better served in a 15,000-seat arena, like Maryland went to after Cole. But I also appreciate the new arena was only happening if it was big enough for the Canes, too. The dirty little secret no one ever mentions in the Reynolds argument was how it was at half-capacity in many December games.

    We moved into a facility where the supply far exceeds demand half the season, and we still average Top 25 every season. That’s impressive.

  12. Wufpacker 08/19/2013 at 3:00 PM #

    “The argument is always nostalgic. But the fact is, it wasn’t much of a home court advantage from 1992-1999.”

    My point precisely.

  13. tjfoose1 08/19/2013 at 5:35 PM #

    “IMO, percentage of capacity would
    be a better measure.”

    Depends on what you’re measuring. Fan interest? Atmosphere? Draw? A demand vs supply index?

    SRO in a 2000 capacity gymnasium is not very impressive, even if it puts the % capacity at over 100.

    A 95% full horseshoe in Columbus is more impressive than a SRO Wallace Wade.

  14. FergusWolf 08/19/2013 at 5:45 PM #

    while I think this is great, I think there are a couple of caveats…

    1. Many schools don’t even have the capacity to support our average attendance…so while % of capacity is a similarly flawed measure, it would be interesting to know if every team had the same 25,000 seat stadium, how would this ranks…somehow I have to believe that teams like Duke would shoot WAY up in the standings.

    2. Our increase seems to be coincident with our sweet sixteen on the previous year along with our over-hyped season potential. More convincing would be if the #’s increase again this year after a disappointing (in comparison to the hype) season.

  15. choppack1 08/19/2013 at 6:08 PM #

    I loath the RBC. I loved Reynolds.

    I have always thought we would have been better served to renovate Reynolds or build another on campus arena. Instead we play in a hockey arena that can host a basketball game.

  16. Wufpacker 08/19/2013 at 6:33 PM #

    @’foose,
    I was going to disagree with you and say that SRO in Durham would be extremely impressive.

    But then it dawned on me that 80% of the fans would be from the opposition, thus your point stands.

  17. tjfoose1 08/19/2013 at 6:51 PM #

    ^ lol.

    Even if all dookies, yes, it would
    be impressive. Impressive for dook. But no comparison (unless you are grading on a curve) to any given game day in Columbus, Austin, Tallahassee, Clemson, or even Columbia. From what my experience tells me, anyway.

  18. Wufpacker 08/19/2013 at 7:08 PM #

    Hey now, I’ve seen games in WW and I have to say that for atmosphere it is unmatched.

    Nowhere else in the country can one hearken back to their days in their old HS stadiums so effectively.

  19. mak4dpak 08/19/2013 at 7:35 PM #

    Reynolds is the past with great memories, PNC is the present and future of creating new memories. Go Pack! And we always give homage with that one game in Reynolds. Not to mention this is now home of Women’s basketball, and hopefully a bright future under the new coach, there.

  20. 13OT 08/19/2013 at 9:42 PM #

    I didn’t especially like moving to the ESA in 1999, but it is a superior facility to Reynolds. As a season ticket holder, my seats in the PNC are a vast improvement over Reynolds. The facility wasn’t built in Downtown Raleigh, another plus. I know there are those who disagree, but it would have been an absolute disaster for parking, traffic, fan safety, and extra fees plus towing, which Downtown loves to impose on anyone who comes near it.

    However, there are some drawbacks. One, the team can’t practice in the PNC. Two, the floor is multi-purpose, which means basketball seating is pushed farther back from the floor than it is in a facility like Reynolds or the Smith Center, where the floor is permanent. And three, it simply doesn’t have the small-arena coziness that helps the home team. The fans who sit in the upper deck of the PNC may as well be watching the game on tv.

    I think we will see State basketball remain here for the next 10-25 years. It could be longer, but I just don’t think the hockey team will remain here another two decades. And when they go, the Wolfpack’s days in that facility will be numbered.

    The ideal situation would be having a new facility on campus, one that holds about 15 to 16 thousand fans, for basketball only. Maryland got that one right.

  21. tjfoose1 08/19/2013 at 11:18 PM #

    Don’t forget the assist to recruiting.

  22. tjfoose1 08/19/2013 at 11:20 PM #

    Ok Wuf, as long as we all agree nothing compares to Kenan and its formidable pines.

  23. Wufpacker 08/20/2013 at 12:19 AM #

    Well yes, I must agree with you there. And when coupled with aluminum as far as the eye can see come the 4th qtr, I suppose Kenan does take the prize, huh?

    😀

  24. ruffles31 08/20/2013 at 12:08 PM #

    We will be at the PNC Arena for a long time. We have something like a 99-year lease. So any argument that we need a new 15K arena or to move back to Reynolds is nothing more than wasted space. It ain’t happening.

  25. tjfoose1 08/20/2013 at 3:04 PM #

    We will not be at PNC for 99 years. I promise you that.

    Contracts are only binding to the point of at least one party wanting it enforced. Most of us will see the Pack in a new home arena within our lifetimes.

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