Miami 81 – NCSU 71 in the ACC Tournament Semifinals

It wasn’t in the cards from the opening tip for the Wolfpack today, as the Miami Hurricanes defeated the Wolfpack 81-71 in the ACC Tournament Semifinals in Greensboro. State got off to a very sluggish start — not getting off of the blocks scoring-wise until 5:25 had ticked off of the clock — and they never fully recovered from that initial drought. That was probably due to having a short bench and their third game in as many days, as the Pack looked like a group with tired legs playing against a top ten team looking to grab its first ACC hoops title.

While there are no real moral victories in tournament play, State has little to be ashamed of in this game today. Their mental intensity was there, the defensive effort was not lacking, and they did win the second half 42-40. In fact, the Wolfpack trimmed the Miami lead down to six midway through the second stanza, but just didn’t have the air to climb up the last bit of the mountain the first half left them to climb. In that woeful first twenty minutes, State missed its first five shots from the field, and committed three turnovers. Their first points came at the 14:35 mark when senior Richard Howell finally put the ball in the net, but by then Miami was almost at full sail and the Pack could never quite track them down.

Credit Miami’s defensive plan, as CJ Leslie was stymied much of the game by the Hurricanes, and by their own rebounding intensity. Miami is a team with great size, depth and speed, and it seemed like every Wolfpack parry was answered with a flurry of Hurricane baskets that put to rest the question of who’d be playing on Sunday for the ACC Championship. Durand Scott of the Hurricanes was the ‘Canes MVP, tossing in 32 points and making 5 of his 8 attempts from beyond the three point arc. Shane Larkin also had a decent day against State, canning 23 points, mostly from the free throw line.

For State, it’s now up to the NCAA Selection Committee as to where and who their next game will be. The Wolfpack is a certain at-large pick, but their seeding is very much in question — some have them as high as a ten seed in the Field of 64, while other prognosticators see NC State as a 7th or 8th seed in their Regional brackets. That position will leave the Pack with a gargantuan task if it wants to earn a Final Four berth. No matter what, however, to get to Atlanta, one will have to defeat the big dogs in the Dance sooner or later, and for State, that task may be at hand as soon as the weekend should it win its first round game.

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114 Responses to Miami 81 – NCSU 71 in the ACC Tournament Semifinals

  1. bill.onthebeach 03/16/2013 at 4:40 PM #

    +1 w/ Alpha….

    POP !!!

  2. phillypacker 03/16/2013 at 4:49 PM #

    Wufpacker, thanks for your troll work. I almost went postal on him too. State’s tournament chances were sealed at FSU last weekend.

    By the way, why isn’t day one of the ACC tournament played on Wednesday, giving everyone a day off before the quarterfinals? They used to do that the day after the Les Robinson Invitational. The four day thing is ridiculous. THe present format rewards the established favorites. Rewarding regular season performance is good but the advantage given is too large.

    You would have the be mute not to see the role the officials play in this game but they did not cost us the win.

  3. phillypacker 03/16/2013 at 4:50 PM #

    Sorry guys. I’m going rogue. Cannot stand to see blue on Sunday. go Terps.

  4. Gowolves 03/16/2013 at 4:51 PM #

    Alpha…voice of reason.

    Sure officiating has been bad in wins and loses. This one wasn’t one of those. Tired of that same old song and dance from some.

  5. Wulfpack 03/16/2013 at 4:52 PM #

    Not fair to the fans to make them stay even another day. It is a tournament. That’s why regular season play is so important – for seeding. We lost one too many.

  6. Alpha Wolf 03/16/2013 at 4:52 PM #

    Today was just proof that we just aren’t as good as the big dogs, period.

    True, but let’s compare and contrast to the final two years of the Lowe era, or even the last year of the Sendek era at State. We’re well beyond that, and we have a program developing that is one that gives us hope and makes us proud.

    It’s not been that long when the start of basketball season was greeted mostly with dread or indifference and that for the most part our fans felt like they weren’t even really a part of the ACC. Some years, we weren’t even good enough to play spoiler.

    So, no, this is not a top five or even top ten team, but certainly it is one that can develop into it over the next few years.

  7. vtpackfan 03/16/2013 at 4:53 PM #

    We will never win an ACC title with Gott-no matter the seeding. Three games in three days will always be a loss by the third try. Maybe an Old Spice Tourney Trophy against a field of RPI 150+ but that’s it. The Harrick system of playing only 6 to 7 players is fine in the NCAA (unless you’re in deep foul trouble) but Conference play is just for a seed bump- we’ll never win one until he figures out how to send a player to scorers table.

  8. Wufpacker 03/16/2013 at 4:55 PM #

    “Wufpacker, thanks for your troll work.”

    Now, now…let’s not go overboard.

    He’s no troll, FWIW. Disagreements happen. Not a big deal.

  9. Wulfpack 03/16/2013 at 4:59 PM #

    I am encouraged, but also recognize that Cuse, Pitt, Notre Dame, and soon enough Louisville join. We lose Howell and Wood for sure, and most likely Leslie and Brown. So it ain’t getting easier any time soon. And we are all likely going to be watching this this thing from MSG soon.

  10. Alpha Wolf 03/16/2013 at 5:05 PM #

    We will never win an ACC title with Gott-no matter the seeding. Three games in three days will always be a loss by the third try.

    It’s way too soon to say that with certainty.

    And while I too am disappointed, I’m not going to turn on the coach. I personally think the biggest setback of the year happened when Painter left and went home to Richmond. With him, there’s awesome depth up front.

  11. Wufpacker 03/16/2013 at 5:07 PM #

    Twerps starting to get the deer in the headlights thing going.

  12. Wufpacker 03/16/2013 at 5:11 PM #

    Agreed Alpha, both in general but also today specifically. Especially with Howell less mobile (and Vandy not exactly the most mobile guy around) having Painter’s body down low could have been huge.

    At the time it happened I didn’t see the Painter transfer as being as big a deal as it turned out to be.

  13. PackAmy 03/16/2013 at 5:11 PM #

    I agree Alpha – this is only Gott’s second year and he hasn’t done badly.

    If we had Painter, Tyler Harris, Ryan Harrow, and Julius Mays I think that we have depth. I’m not sure that we actually want anyone other than Painter but once Gott has his own recruits, I think they will be easier to retain unless they go pro.

  14. MrPlywood 03/16/2013 at 5:17 PM #

    I personally think the biggest setback of the year happened when Painter left and went home to Richmond.

    Yep.

  15. the_phisherman 03/16/2013 at 5:17 PM #

    Because we thought we were getting Jefferson

  16. ILPackfan 03/16/2013 at 5:32 PM #

    This is the best start to an NCSU coaching career for anyone not named Everett Case. Way too soon to say we’ve hit the ceiling with Gott in my opinion.

  17. lush 03/16/2013 at 5:33 PM #

    “By the way, why isn’t day one of the ACC tournament played on Wednesday, giving everyone a day off before the quarterfinals? They used to do that the day after the Les Robinson Invitational. ”

    The LRI was the play in game and always on Thursday. There has never been an ACC tourney game on Wednesday, and there has never been a day off after it started.

  18. bill.onthebeach 03/16/2013 at 5:34 PM #

    ^Yep — both ways….

    but looking back …. trying to working “another hotdog freshman” into *this team would have not produced any different results… with respect to W/L….

    Team Chemistry, or lack thereof….. was the biggest contributing factor to our record this season….

    That said…. I would much rather to have to deal with Team Chemistry issues than to not have enough ‘elements’ to have ‘chemistry….

    And… if you looked carefully… both on and off the court in Greensboro…it was clear that the Chemistry stuff has been settled at least for this weekend…..

  19. Rochester 03/16/2013 at 5:35 PM #

    Julius Mays would have graduated before now had he stayed. He was no more help than Jaquan Raymond. As for Harrow, he couldn’t play ahead of Brown and Lewis. Good riddance to that ___________ (choose your favorite lack-of-fortitude term here. Mine rhymes with wussy). He crapped the bed for Kentucky yesterday.

    Add Painter or Josh Davis to this team and it’s a 4-seed at worst in the NCAAT. The lack of depth up front cost us several games. One more win in the regular season and we’re fresher today and probably come out with enough fight to take Miami.

  20. 44rules 03/16/2013 at 5:38 PM #

    Sigh. We are what we are. Disappointed, but proud of the fight shown.

    I don’t have the evil experiences with Twerp fans that some do. I always pull against UNC, no matter what, when or where.

  21. ILPackfan 03/16/2013 at 5:39 PM #

    Wow. Twerps within 1.

  22. 61Packer 03/16/2013 at 5:42 PM #

    I usually don’t complain about the officiating but today I saw maybe the worst-called State game I’ve seen in several years. I was angry, not frustrated, at game’s end, and that’s not a good thing. I seldom get angry over a ball game, and had to wait several hours before posting this.

    The charge called on Brown turned the game around. We were getting mugged enough as it was, but when Brown tried to drive around the defender who leaned right to cause the contact and got the call, negating a basket and possible 3-point play at a critical time, I lost it.

    Our players tried and I congratulate them for that, but they never had a chance because they weren’t allowed to be anywhere as physical as the ‘Canes. Seeing Wood tossed around like a sack of potatoes, Purvis pounded to the floor by bigger goons inside, and Howell banged around continuously under the boards, I finally realized that the ACC is no longer the ACC but has become the Big East. No one hated that league any more than I did. When I first saw them on tv’s Big Monday in the 70s, those games looked like a WWF wrestling fight, where occasionally a Georgetown game would break out. Damn it, if teams join our league, they should become us, but we’ve become THEM. If the ACC does agree to move their tourney (for any considerable amount of times) to NYC, then I am through supporting ACC athletics, which begins with NC State athletics. I don’t think I’m alone in those thoughts, either.

    This crap began when we started playing Big East teams here in Raleigh, and although we usually did pretty well, the style they brought disgusted me. Their players were essentially smirky hot dogs like Maryland, but even dirtier, with no motive other than to beat us up and get away with anything they could. We got two of those teams in BC and Miami when the first rounds of expansion were over, thanks to John Swofford. And now we’re about to get 3 more of them next season. We’re going to become a Northeastern basketball conference that has expanded to become a football conference, with coaches, players, bat-blind referees and big-city jerks who will become a cancer on the style of sports we’ve valued on Tobacco Road for so long. Adam Gold and the other sports media who are drooling at the thought of the ACC Tournament moving to NYC can all go to hell.

    Because that’s where the ACC is headed, if it’s not already there. I vow I will no longer pay any of my hard-earned money to support this endeavor, and instead will save it and buy a big screen tv and stay home and watch.

    Let’s see how long the ACC booster clubs can paying their bills off a 15 or 16-way split of gate money from Madison Square Garden in March.

  23. Wufpacker 03/16/2013 at 5:44 PM #

    Twerps not going away. Color me impressed.

    And since they are the (slightly) lesser of two evils…Go Twerps.

    Y’all have no idea how hard it is for me to say that. Seriously.

  24. Wufpacker 03/16/2013 at 5:48 PM #

    Does Hairston’s mouthguard have the UNC logo on it?

    If so, that just makes me want to punch him in the mouth that much more.

  25. bill.onthebeach 03/16/2013 at 5:49 PM #

    ..oh well… Holes… hang on… and get a shot at Canes tomorrow…

    rots of ruck with that one….

    POP!!!

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