Thursday Compendium

February 2, 2012

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JP GIGLIO (N&O)
Wood, Leslie help Wolfpack salvage win against Eagles

Boston College started the week at No. 229 in the Rating Percentage Index, one spot ahead of Savannah State and one behind Lafayette.

That’s not the kind of company N.C. State can afford to keep if it wants to end its season in the four-letter postseason tournament instead of the three-letter one. Scott Wood and C.J. Leslie saved the Wolfpack from an RPI-crushing loss on Wednesday – and string of other four-letter words from a portion of its fan base.

Wood (16 points) and Leslie (13) lifted N.C. State to an aesthetically-challenged 56-51 ACC win, in name only, over the Eagles.

“We didn’t play particularly great,” Wolfpack coach Mark Gottfried said. “But what I liked, even on a night when we struggled to score, we still found a way to win.”

In front of a sparsely populated Conte Forum – in a city with Super Bowl fever or Stanley Cup fever or anything-but-college-basketball fever – Eagles coach Steve Donahue squeezed every ounce of effort out of his willing team which fell to 7-15 and 2-6 in the conference.

JP GIGLIO (N&O)
Observations: Pack ‘out of sync’

Several of N.C. State’s players walked to the locker room at the half leading 25-23, but with glum looks on their faces. Wolfpack coach Mark Gottfried noticed the same thing and let the players have it.

“I’m not going to tolerate that and hopefully we won’t see it again,” Gottfried said.

Gottfried said the team’s body language was off in the first half, especially from Richard Howell and Lorenzo Brown.

“We were allowing things to bother us,” Gottfried said. “Mentally, we were out of sync. We were much better in the second half, much better.”

Associated Press
Wood Carries NC State To 56-51 Win Over BC

Scott Wood scored 16 points and C.J. Leslie 13 to lift North Carolina State to a 56-51 win over Boston College on Wednesday night.

C.J. Williams and Richard Howell each scored 10 points for the Wolfpack (16-7, 5-3 Atlantic Coast Conference). N.C. State has won 10 of its last 13. Howell also grabbed eight boards.

Matt Humphrey led Boston College (7-15, 2-6) with 15 points. The Eagles lost their fifth straight.

Wood also hit 5 of 5 free throws and has made 63 straight dating back to last season, extending his school record.

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ANDREW CARTER (N&O)
Homegrown talent missing on Signing Day

Both nationally and in the ACC, out-of-state schools built their recruiting classes with the help of some of the best prospects in North Carolina. Charlotte offensive lineman D.J. Humphries and Shelby defensive end Jonathan Bullard, the top two prospects in the state according to Rivals, both signed with Florida.

Tarboro’s Todd Gurley and Keith Marshall, who starred at Millbrook, both signed with Georgia. They were ranked as the state’s top two running backs. Clemson, which put together the third-best class in the ACC, according to Rivals, also signed two of the state’s top-10 prospects, as did South Carolina.

“I don’t think we’ll be satisfied until we sign everybody in-state,” O’Brien said.

“That’s the goal … Continue to go to bowl games, continue to win, to put ourselves in a position to challenge and to go to Charlotte [for ACC title game], and that will increase our chances to keep a lot of the kids home.”

News & Observer
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CAULTON TUDOR (N&O)
Recruiting ratings can be misleading

One of the most impressive football recruiting hauls in ACC history was accomplished by a single assistant coach working without the benefit of a staff and in remote territory.

When Joe Pate came back from Alabama in the late winter of 1999 with quarterback Philip Rivers and wide receiver Jerricho Cotchery, the foundation for a record setting offensive era at N.C. State was secured.

Pate was selected by then-Wolfpack athletics director Les Robinson to stay in touch with recruiting targets following the dismissal of Mike O’Cain and most of his staff by school chancellor Marye Anne Fox in late November.

The signings of Rivers and Cotchery rate as classic examples of how misleading recruit ratings can be.

Brett Friedlander (starnewsonline.com)
N.C. State signing day thread

OBSERVATIONS: As usual, most of the experts and large number of Wolfpack fans are going to slam this class as being mediocre – if not worse – because of the lack of stars next to the names. We’ll see how that plays out in the coming years. For now, though, there can be no denying that O’Brien has addressed several pressing needs, especially on the defensive front and linebacker. Of the 23 players State signed Wednesday, four are defensive ends and two are defensive tackles. Of those, early enrollee Delay Buntyn and solidly built prospect K’Hadree Hooker both stand a chance to step right in and play right away. The same is true for JUCO linebacker Robert Caldwell, would could be a key addition if he can fill the void left by Manning’s early departure. O’Brien also bolstered the offensive line with Kennedy, McKinney and Tu’uta and added a promising wide receiver prospect in Hegedus. The Wolfpack also picked up some insurance at the quarterback position at O’Brien prepares to replace starter Mike Glennon after next season. Again, this isn’t a class that’s going to be rated high in the ACC. But that’s how O’Brien likes it.

Earl Vaughan Jr. (FayObserver.com)
National Signing Day: Jack Britt, South View standouts take rivalry to ACC

Salahuddin is headed to N.C. State and McKinnon to Virginia Tech.

They now compare notes about what’s ahead for them, but that wasn’t the case when the season started.

Back then, the two played linebacker for bitter rivals, Salahuddin at Jack Britt and McKinnon at South View.

“We knew of each other, we were acquainted, but we weren’t the type of close friends we are now,” McKinnon said.

What changed that was the Shrine Bowl of the Carolinas in mid-December. McKinnon was an original selection to the annual all-star game between the best high school football seniors in North and South Carolina.

Salahuddin was a late addition to the North Carolina roster for the game, and suddenly the pair found themselves teammates.

They stayed in the same motel, rode the same bus to and from practices and the game.

The week they spent together changed everything.

“We’d sit by each other on the bus, talk about school.”

The easy friendship came as a surprise to McKinnon. “I was expecting a bit of tension,” he said. “It wasn’t like that. He turned out to be a really cool dude and we clicked.”

Like McKinnon, Salahuddin wasn’t sure what to expect of his South View rival.

“He was a real good guy,” Salahuddin said. “He was humble and everything like that.”

Salahuddin actually took the friendship a step further and tried to convert McKinnon from his oral commitment to Virginia Tech and talk him into going to N.C. State.

“I let him know there was a good chance for him to play at State,” Salahuddin said.

GoPack.com
Signing Day: Owino’s Journey to NC State

Owino came to Raleigh in December of 2010 from his home in Nairobi, Kenya. His father, Simpson, had been here for nine years working to support his family back in Africa. He would talk to his father on the phone once a week and his mother traveled to the U.S. every year or so to see his dad, but he hadn’t seen him in almost 10 years.

“I came to be with my dad,” says Owino in his heavy accent. “I came as a student, to learn over here. That was the plan.”

That plan had worked well for Owino’s older siblings. His brother played basketball at Peninsula College in Seattle and now attends Washington State, while his sister is pursuing a master’s degree at Ohio State. And although, like many Kenyan children, he had spent years in boarding school, leaving his mother to move across the world was difficult.

“It was pretty much hard,” he remembers. “I had friends over there and my mom is there still. I miss a lot of people. I talk to my mother once a week.”

The transition from life in Kenya to life in Raleigh was smooth for Owino, as he settled in at Sanderson High School. He recalls how classmates and teachers tried to use google translator to speak to him in Swahili before they realized he spoke English.

Moving from a city with almost five million inhabitants to one with around half a million was also a big change. “I much like the way people drive cars over here,” he laughs. “It is much more organized here.”

Owino was no stranger to sports when he arrived in the U.S. In Kenya he played rugby and basketball but didn’t know much about American football. One day, he was walking down the hall of his school, when a man stopped him.

Jacey Zembal (TheWolfpacker.com)
NC State fills its needs

NC State coach Tom O’Brien was full of pride in unveiling his fifth full recruiting class in Raleigh.

NC State signed 22 players Wednesday — including 17 Rivals.com three-star prospects and five two stars — to help the Wolfpack rank No. 9 in the ACC, and No. 11 in the league in average stars per player (2.77).

The Wolfpack didn’t crack Rivals.com’s national top 50, but the team rankings will get altered prior to the college football season to take into account players that don’t make it to campus. NC State landed 17 three-star prospects and five two stars.

“Certainly we are excited about today,” O’Brien said. “This is a really talented group of young men that have decided to come to NC State. It’s a long, athletic and talented group of kids, and I think the thing that stands out at you is the size of them and the length they have, and the fact that they can run.”

Seven of the players picked NC State after originally committing to other colleges, while the Wolfpack lost four players to other colleges during the recruiting cycle. NC State signed players from seven different states, highlighted by eight players with ties to North Carolina high schools and six from Georgia.

MULTIMEDIA/PODCASTS

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GoPack.com
Pack Perspective with Mark Thomas

Sophomore forward C.J. Leslie opens up to Mark Thomas about playing for State and how he has improved his game.

WRALSportsfan.com
O’Brien likes the strength and length of his signing class

NCSU Tom O’Brien talks with the media about his 23-man signing class and updates the injury status of Mustafa Greene, RJ Mattes, etc.

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Class of '98, Mechanical Engineer, State fan since arriving on campus and it's been a painful ride ever since. I live by the Law of NC State Fandom, "For every Elation there is an equal and opposite Frustration."

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46 Responses to Thursday Compendium

  1. BJD95 02/02/2012 at 2:44 PM #

    10 wins and the ACCT semis should do it (extrapolating the likely result on our numbers to fit VA’s enlightening reseatch). Otherwise, I think MG is correct – need 11.

    We are going nowhere fast if Lo Brown doesn’t shake off the doldrums. He’s totally irreplaceable.

    I’m just happy we kept our composure last night. It’s a great lesson to grind one out when you just don’t have it. Sort of like a pitcher learning how to get through 6 innings when he doesn’t have velocity on his fastball, or bite on his curve.

  2. VaWolf82 02/02/2012 at 3:09 PM #

    ACCT semis should do it

    It seems unlikely that State will get an NCAAT without making the semi’s. It’s certainly possible, but they haven’t done well enough so far to give me any hope that they will have a bid wrapped up before the ACCT.

  3. Pack Mentality 02/02/2012 at 3:11 PM #

    We all know that Herb was beloved by all the powers that be in the college basketball sports machine. Was it coincidental that EVERY TIME his team at State was a bubble team he made it in.

    The Va Tech coach is not so well loved by the powers that be. His team never makes it as a bubble team.

    Gottfried is well liked by the powers that be….just sayin’.

  4. JT 02/02/2012 at 3:13 PM #

    Ugly win against an ugly team, but it’s better than an ugly loss (see GT). This team is on track overall, it’s just slumping a bit. Lo is a tad off and if he is off there isn’t enough slack for the team to overcome it. Johnson needs to find his range as well- those two are bricking from 3 big time right now, and that’s bad. My feeling is that Rome wasn’t built in a day, and that’s what Gott is having to do- rebuild the program as well as rebuild the players already here. The scheme is SO different from what we’ve seen in about 15 years, there are bound to be stretches where it comes undone. It’s just a matter of pushing onward because this actually is a pretty good team- not great, but pretty good with cool players. And it’s fun to watch (usually). If you saw the behind the scenes shoot on ESPN, it was clear just by what has been done with the facilities to honor Pack history how much the culture is changing. Right now it’s like Tiger Woods’ golf swing, clicking a lot of the time but occasionally slipping. But it’s obvious Gott has us on the right track.

  5. VaWolf82 02/02/2012 at 3:28 PM #

    Was it coincidental that EVERY TIME his team at State was a bubble team he made it in.

    Nope. IT was ACCT wins. Two wins against the #1 seed and once against the #2 seed tends to make a team stand out when compared to other bubble teams.

  6. Thinkpack17 02/02/2012 at 4:14 PM #

    ^True. The committee leans much more towards a team that finishes a year strong than a team that starts strong. Looking good late in the year can go a long way.

  7. Alpha Wolf 02/02/2012 at 4:52 PM #

    ^ Correct me if I am mistaken, but hasn’t the committee removed the “strong finish” component so that early season wins (and losses) have equal value?

    Bottom line: the team needs ten wins, minimum, and it also needs a signature win to highlight its resume. Texas is not that win.

  8. Thinkpack17 02/02/2012 at 5:25 PM #

    I don’t know if “strong finish” has ever formally been weighted differently in the formula but there are a bunch of bubble teams every year. The bubble team that has just come off of a few big wins and is playing well should feel a lot better about their chances than a bubble team whose big wins were in December and limps into the post season.

  9. VaWolf82 02/02/2012 at 5:38 PM #

    Alpha is right, but I’m reminded of an old skit that I’ve seen in everything from Abbott & Costello to cartoons to Harry Potter….

    Our intrepid hero is in line with a bunch of other people when whoever is in charge asks for a volunteer. Everyone, except our hero, takes a step back…leaving our hero as the volunteer.

    That’s what Selection Sunday and conference tourney’s are like for bubble teams. Some will stumble and fall off the back side of the bubble. Some will stand still and hope for the best. Some will step forward and play their way into the NCAAT.

    The NCAAT Selection Committee says that wins are all equally important. But if teams are roughly even going into the conference tourneys, then a big win there still is going to move you ahead of other bubble teams without an equally impressive win…or at least that’s the way I see it.

  10. Dreadstone 02/02/2012 at 6:02 PM #

    http://www.usatoday.com/sports/sagarin/bkc1112.htm

    Per Sagarin, State is # 54 with a 107 SoS. 10 wins in the ACC gets you in. Has to. You can’t leave a 10 win ACC team out and take a 8-8 Big Least team. (Especially with their flameouts the past two years).

    If only the ACC had a commissioner who was concerned about the conference and not just one team.

  11. WeAreCured 02/02/2012 at 6:31 PM #

    Dreadstone, the Committee still uses RPI, though. It’s flawed and outdated, but they use it over KenPom and Sagarin.

    http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/bubblewatch

    Plus, it would be pretty easy to leave out a 10 win ACC team when the ACC has so many teams above 100 in the RPI. State could go 0-8 against top 50 RPI teams and still win 10 games in conference with their best win being against Miami, and most of their wins coming from teams that rank over 100. Regardless of the 10 wins, that team does not pass the eye test. It’s perfectly reasonable to only send 4 teams from the ACC to the tournament this year, and 10-6 would make State 5th in the conference. Miami and State could still get in, but they need to win against a top 50 team and beat everyone else they are supposed to. They have to do something to make themselves look like they actually deserve it, and right now, they clearly do not.

  12. Wufpacker 02/02/2012 at 6:35 PM #

    Wasn’t there a brief discussion a few weeks back regarding the selection committee and the fact that RPI is not the only criterion they use, and that at least some of the other criteria are more subjective in nature? Or did I dream this?

  13. Texpack 02/02/2012 at 7:49 PM #

    With more conferences playing unbalanced schedules, your conference record really doesn’t mean anything. As Jay Bilas likes to remind people every year, it’s who did you play and who did you beat. If we have an RPI in the 50’s with no Top 50 wins we probably won’t get in. The narrow losses that Texas has suffered may end up keeping us out of the Tournament. They could have very easily cracked to Top 50 with about 3 more points.

  14. WeAreCured 02/02/2012 at 7:52 PM #

    Oh, I’m sure they look to other factors, but as far as ratings indexes go, the RPI is still used for some reason.

    No matter how you look at it, it would be nice to beat someone worth bragging about. When St. Bonaventure, Princeton, and UNC-A are 3 of your top 6 wins, Miami and Texas are your only top 75 wins, and you lose to GT, it’s not good.

    All that aside, it’s nice to even be in the conversation for consideration this year, and you really never know what the hell the committee will end up doing. They could take 4 from the ACC and people would see that as reasonable, or they could take 5 and people would see that as reasonable as well. Who knows? There’s plenty of time left for both State and their past and future opponents to do work that would help, and there are currently 3 top 50 opponents left, 2 at home, and the possibility of a top 50 home game against Miami if they get hot and reel off some good wins.

  15. Wulfpack 02/02/2012 at 8:20 PM #

    We don’t know exactly what the bubble will look like IF we are fortunate enough to be on it in March. The bubble takes a different shape each year. This year it looks like there are a healthy bunch of mid-majors that could make a good case against a middle of the road BCS school. So you can’t just say 10 wins will get you in. Your 10 wins will be measured against somebody else’s strong performance in conference compared to what was done outside of conference. We didn’t do much outside – the Texas win is becoming less and less of a selling point. St. Bonnies…nope.

    Bottom line is we need a marquee win. We all know that. We have 3 more opportunities and then the ACC tourney.

  16. VaWolf82 02/02/2012 at 9:15 PM #

    10 wins in the ACC gets you in. Has to. You can’t leave a 10 win ACC team out

    I disagree.

    Signed,
    Seth Greenburg

  17. wolfpack4ever 02/02/2012 at 10:16 PM #

    “We all know that Herb was beloved by all the powers that be in the college basketball sports machine. Was it coincidental that EVERY TIME his team at State was a bubble team he made it in.

    The Va Tech coach is not so well loved by the powers that be. His team never makes it as a bubble team.”

    I just do not believe the Herbie method of scheduling a lot of lightweight/pu$$y/pushover non-conference games and hoping for a .500 record in conference will get many if any major conference teams in the NCAA tournament now.

    There is just too much emphasis on strength of schedule, RPI, and quality wins now. I think the HWSNBN model is going the way of the dinosaur and Edsel. There may be a lot of WTF is an Edsel. Oh well, showing my age I suppose.

    Go Pack!

  18. choppack1 02/02/2012 at 10:22 PM #

    Unless we beat someone of note we’ll have a hard time getting in.

    We do have a solid ooc in our favor. We need at least 11 conference wins in regular season…that would mean we would have beaten Fsu duke or unc. With that record you’d have a top 50 rpi too. 10 wins and a Saturday acc tourney appearance might get us in too.

  19. gtspack 02/02/2012 at 10:44 PM #

    To make everyone feel better go to PackPride and check out the kind of recruits coach Gott is looking at for 2013. We are on our way. Go Pack!!!!

  20. PackerInRussia 02/03/2012 at 8:00 AM #

    “Saban etc choose to go after the 4 and 5 stars and stay relevent nationally year afte year.”

    I think your point was made better by comparing us to Duke than Nick Saban. Wanting to get 4 and 5-star players isn’t all it takes. I don’t think we should hope to be Nick Saban or Alabama.
    About Duke: I don’t know how their recruiting’s been the last few years, but I remember that Amato’s last few years and maybe O’Brien’s 1st, Duke’s level of recruiting was similar or better than State’s. They did have that crazy win that one year, but their record hasn’t born out their recruiting edge. Also, look at Carolina. Many more stars; many more losses to State; similar overall ACC records.
    I agree about your observation of why no 4/5 stars. Not even just a few. I think Summer was a 4*. I care more about what a coach does with players, though, and other than the 2-6 year, I think we’re far from the ACC whipping boy.

  21. sundropdrinker13 02/03/2012 at 11:07 AM #

    jljones, chill the hell out. If you had kept up with ANY football recruiting you would know that most of our recruits blew up this year, and were being recruited late by BIG programs. We even stole a few from a couple other programs. And yes, UNC got Summers, but Stocker is the better QB and it was probable that Summers was going to be moved to WR or S. We got 2 receivers that have good hands, are 6-2,6-3, and have 4.4-4.5 speed. Some good Dline as well. I love when people like yourself always bring up programs like FSU. Let’s look at them. UF, FSU, and Miami. Look at their classes. And what have they done the last few years? Zip.

    We also HAVE gotten some 4 and 5 stars over the last few years. Check your facts. This was a deceivingly good class. Check em in a couple years, once they have had time to develop(like 99% of recruits need to do).

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