Final Four shows young coaches shouldn’t be overlooked

Link to article from Gary Parrish.

My only point is that a good athletic director should be able to examine candidates, find the right guy for his job and pull the trigger. In some cases, the right guy might be a 50-year-old veteran. But I’ve long believed great coaches are often identifiable at a young age, always admired athletic directors with the you-know-whats to take a chance on one. With any luck, this group of coaches at this Final Four — who were all 31-or-younger when they got their first head coaching job — will help push more athletic directors to do the same, to take a chance, to worry less about what somebody’s done and more about what somebody’s built to do.

“I hope so, too,” Smart said. “I love young coaches and I think there are a lot of terrific guys out there in their late 20s and early 30s who could do just as good a job as I could.”

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38 Responses to Final Four shows young coaches shouldn’t be overlooked

  1. john of sparta 04/01/2011 at 9:05 PM #

    IGD…we used to be: The Red Terrors.

  2. theTHRILL 04/01/2011 at 10:01 PM #

    Boyd said – “FWIW, Shaka is undefeated as a HC in the post-season.”

    CAA Tournament 3-7-11

    VCU – 65
    ODU – 70

  3. Daily Update 04/01/2011 at 10:03 PM #

    I am not going to let my entires turn into complaining over the topic of the entry. If you don’t like the topic, then don’t open it and don’t post on it. I don’t think that much of Gary Parrish either, but the information in his column was relevant. The site needed something. There wasn’t much out there, so I threw it up real quick in the middle of working and keeping my 4 month old daughter because the nanny called in sick today. My wife has been out of town for 8 nights, I have two young children and a job, yet I still have tried to cover this coaching search as much as possible.

    There is nobody on any NC State website or blog who has fought the national media harder than I have recently(and even longer than that.

    Maybe there is another blogger out there who has written this many entires trying to defend NC State against the national media:

    http://www.statefansnation.com/index.php/archives/2011/03/28/state-top-15-job-in-terms-of-recruiting/

    http://www.statefansnation.com/index.php/archives/2011/03/29/good-tob-interview-from-spring-practice/

    http://www.statefansnation.com/index.php/archives/2011/03/16/dave-glenn-about-to-interview-mike-decourcy101-pm/

    http://www.statefansnation.com/index.php/archives/2011/03/16/how-good-bad-is-the-n-c-state-hoops-job/

    http://www.statefansnation.com/index.php/archives/2011/03/08/recruits-committed-to-nc-state/

    http://www.statefansnation.com/index.php/archives/2011/02/16/sendeks-1-11-season-starting-to-receive-attention-still-no-mention-of-it-from-national-experts/

    http://www.statefansnation.com/index.php/archives/2011/02/12/local-media-rushes-to-defend-nc-state-against-national-hacks/

    http://www.statefansnation.com/index.php/archives/2011/02/08/say-it-isnt-so-sendek-on-the-hot-seat/

    http://www.statefansnation.com/index.php/archives/2011/01/13/gold-and-ovies-interview-julius-hodge/

  4. redwolf87 04/01/2011 at 10:08 PM #

    Writers should be rewarded when they do a good job and ignored/shunned when they write crap just for “shock” value that won’t hold up to honest discussion.

    Parrish has been blatantly unfair to NC State but, I agree, this recent article has good content in it.

    Now, this Goodman clown is a totally different story. He’s on a mission to see how bad he can insult us and denigrate our brand, and how many page hits he can generate in the interim. I am really starting to think he’s got some kind of sick obsession.

    So, he is best ignored. Completely.

  5. Daily Update 04/01/2011 at 10:10 PM #
  6. Daily Update 04/01/2011 at 10:17 PM #

    Note that rant was directed at a couple of posters that offered nothing to the discussion of the topic, but felt the need to criticize me and the site for linking this article. The comments were originally deleted just to keep the entry on topic. However, they posted again making the same complaints.

    It would be great to have more contributors on this site, so that I didn’t have to post so many entries and links to keep the site fresh. We would really appreciate the help if anyone wants to volunteer.

  7. ADVENTUROO 04/01/2011 at 10:21 PM #

    More gibberish on the N&O. The “Shockers” AD (Wichita State) AD had advised his local newspaper that NO SCHOOL has contacted Gregg Marshall and that they are happy with their NIT Championship and are going to a pep rally where they will shuck a bushel of ceremonial corn (made that up…).

    So the dance has begun. The story was so NON-NEWS WORTHY that I refuse to even copy the link…

    And to those who inquired as to my bedtime in another thread….why I don’t know….but I usually stay up past midnight….I am happily retired and don’t have to get up until I want to…or whenever my wife says breakfast is ready. The remark about the Rumor Mill Bugs biting was strictly rhetorical….some folks really need to get out and do some REAL reading and take some REAL literature courses….SHEESH!

  8. VaWolf82 04/02/2011 at 9:25 AM #

    I quickly scanned the Parrish article and found it as insightful as someone telling me that the sun was going to rise in the east tomorrow.

    Of course, AD’s should recognize good, young coaches. People fitting this description are hired by colleges all over the country every year. The point that Parrish overlooks is how many fail when they get their next big chance.

    There was some work reported here over the last week or so about mid-major coaches that moved up to BCS schools that met certain criteria. IIRC, something like 4 of 11 “succeeded” at the next level, which means that the vast majority fail.

    Some schools hire “Billy Donovan” and others hire “Herb Sendek”. I disagree with the implication that “good” AD’s can tell the difference between the two. The definition of a good AD comes with how the two situations are handled after the difference becomes obvious.

  9. Daily Update 04/02/2011 at 10:34 AM #

    ^4 of 11 became elite coaches(Miller, Matta, Self, and Pearl). A couple were in the first 3 years, so it was too early to tell. And another was Steven Alford at Iowa that won two Big 10 titles.

    44% chance of getting an elite level coach?

    Those are good odds IMO. If anything the article you referenced supported hiring a mid-major coach that recently made the S-16.

    How many retreads have become elite coaches after being hired away from another major conference?

  10. Daily Update 04/02/2011 at 10:39 AM #

    Here is the information Vawolf referenced.

    Three coaches were in their 1st three years. Miller is one of those coaches, so he has “succeeded”. Too early to tell on the other two.

    Then you have Pearl, Self and Matta. Then Alford who was pretty good and is doing well at New Mexico(should he be talked about for our job?).

    Those are good odds. Probably just as good or better than retreading a proven non-elite major coach.

  11. JSRy2k 04/02/2011 at 12:47 PM #

    God help Debbie Yow. We NEED a great hire who wins big-time not only for us but to prove to the rest of America what ignorant, vitriolic, hot air these talking heads spew about NCSU.

    We were once great and the potential remains. If Herb and Sid, of all people, could get to 5-straight NCAAs and pull a top-5 recruiting class in year-5 of a trainwreck, respectively, then a good coach will have a ball here!

  12. otisthetowndrunk 04/02/2011 at 2:53 PM #

    In Smart, I think we have a very good chance of having an elite level coach for most of his career. Think about this, how many coaches have come from VCU to be decently successful on the next level. A couple recent ones pop into my mind, so they have done a decent job of finding young talent.

    I have have heard a couple of interviews with VCUs AD Norwood Teague, and in spite of him being a Carolina guy, he seemed to be very with in, and knew what he was doing when he hired Smart. I think Shaka is the real deal. When the search began, I did not think we were looking at him, but I told my buddy “I sure hope he does not end up at GaTech, because he will be hard to beat there.”

    As things started to shake out, I began to get worried that we would get Rick Barnes and be good, but see Smart go on to do great things. When I thought the signing of Rick Barnes eminent I was hoping it would fall through. I wanted Miller, and if not him Shaka Smart.

    I hear some of y’all say, he did not win his conference, 5 game losing streak scares some of y’all. So something went wrong for him during this season, but somehow he got it together in time for the tourney, sounds like good coaching to me.

    Sure, show me numbers and percentages that not all mid major coaches can go and do it with the big boys, but those same numbers show me that some do. Looking at all the little things, all the indicators point to this one being the one that makes it.

    He has been an assistant for the big boys, the has recruited for the big boys. He got his chance in the a good mid major conference, and performed very well. What more must he do to prove that he is ready to be elite level coach?

    Some of y’all say, we should not have to take the chance. But this is not cards or dice, do the research and take the risk if you like your options. You have to take on a little risk to get the highest payoff.

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