A closer look at the Ramsay case

In this entry yesterday we talked about how UNC-CH has asked the NCAA for Devon Ramsay’s appeal to be delayed.  I thought given this development maybe a closer look at his case would be fun.  As alert readers will remember, Ramsay played in the first 4 games of this year before being ruled permanently ineligible for receiving “improper benefits,” which apparently were in the form of tutoring.  Specifically, he got a lot of help on at least one paper. 

This News and Observer article from last month gives us a look into the specifics of the matter.  Basically Sharon Lee, who is Ramsay’s mom, called the N & O and asked to be heard.  She explained to Tysiac in so many words her view that the NCAA punishment was draconian.  Apparently the News and Observer had access to the paper in question.  Anyway let’s take a look at some quotes from the N & O article.

Lee said her son and UNC officials have told her that UNC’s own academic honor system didn’t consider Ramsay’s issue serious enough to send to the student-run honor court for possible sanctions.

After that, Lee said, she thought her son would be cleared to return to the team. He had played in the first four games of the season but then had been held out since UNC discovered the questionable term paper.

Instead, she said, the NCAA reviewed his case and ruled he had received an impermissible benefit.

UNC announced Nov. 15 that the NCAA has banned Ramsay permanently.
So UNC-CH found no reason to even send Ramsay to their honor court but the NCAA saw the same facts and ruled him permanently ineligible?  Am I reading that right?  That is quite a disconnect.  You have to wonder if they are even looking at the same things.  Moving on, the N & O gives us some insight into the level of “help” Ramsay received from the tutor:

The majority of the paper returned to Ramsay contains only minor edits, but there are major differences between the paper Ramsay sent the tutor and the paper he received back. A three-sentence concluding paragraph is added, and the material in the opening paragraph is rearranged and expanded upon.

The other places where the paper returned to Ramsay differs from the one he sent the tutor:

Eight places where run-on sentences are split into two, plus a period added at the end of one paragraph.

Five places where commas are added.

Four places where word tenses are changed (for example, “affect” changed to “affecting”).

Four places where capital letters are made lower case.

Three cases where a word is dropped, added or changed to make Ramsay’s point clearer.

Three cases where a phrase is deleted, added or changed to make his point clearer.

So let’s recap.  In addition to rewriting his introduction and completely writing his conclusion, the tutor rewrote parts of six other sentences (changing words and phrases), corrected ten punctuation/capitalization errors, corrected the verb tenses in four sentences, and rewrote eight sentences into sixteen.  I don’t know about you, but that sounds like a hell of a lot of work done by the tutor rather than the student.  It sounds like almost a total rewrite.  AND UNC-CH didn’t think this warranted a trip to the honor system? WOW!  What do you have to do to get punished for cheating over there, seriously?
By the way, in case anyone thinks this is relevant, “plagiarism” is “presenting the words or ideas of another as one’s own.” 
So, back to yesterday’s news of the appeal.  What could possibly have happened to cause UNC to ask for a delay?  Well Michael McAdoo’s NCAA appeal was heard Tuesday, and we have yet to hear how that went.  Maybe something “came up” during the McAdoo appeal that gave UNC pause regarding Ramsay’s appeal.  Stay tuned. 
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43 Responses to A closer look at the Ramsay case

  1. packbackr04 12/16/2010 at 5:08 PM #

    exactly fullmoon. this is just like the $3 expense that Hakeem Nicks paid for that they released.

  2. GoldenChain 12/16/2010 at 5:11 PM #

    1. A professor helping a student on an assignment is different than a tutor helping in the same way. STL, my wife is a Magna Cum laude math ed grad and tutored athletes at State (including Whit), ran her own tutoring business for years, has taught at the CC and run their tuting center for several years now (BTW she was instrutor of the year and is up for the state CC IoY award). She says that she does NOT do anyone’s homework for them. She (and her tutors) will demonstrate with similar work and point out errors but will not do the actual assignments.
    What you do w/your students is one thing, what others do with them is something else.
    You’d consider it cheating or something if their roommate wrote part of their paper wouldn’t you? Same w/the tutor.

    2. Whatever happened to the Harbrace Handbook. Hell I failed ENG 111 the 1st semester because all my papers had 3 yes THREE “critical errors” in them and this guy had 28!!!!!!!!
    HOLY FREAKIN COW! And State isn’t even a liberal arts school!

  3. highstick 12/16/2010 at 6:10 PM #

    When I was taking English at State, one misspelled word was a D, two was an automatic F…

    Granted times have changed, but that’s a factor of people not being held accountable anymore. The problem with that is that most of the time in the workplace, you do get held accountable! Tolerating this type crap is inexcusable!

  4. MrPlywood 12/16/2010 at 6:11 PM #

    hoop Says: The guy is a friggin football player. Some of them are just not smart. I mean, this isn’t the Stanford football team we’re talking about here.
    =====

    However, UNX is a “public Ivy”, yes? Seems like their expected GPA is inversely proportional to the player’s 40 time…

    BTW, my kid is currently at McGill in Montreal, the “Harvard of Canada” 🙂 She’s a 2nd year and works her butt off, writing high-level, polished papers that get her a B at the most. One prof said he “doesn’t believe in A’s”. Ramsay’s “paper” would have hit the recycle bin in 2 seconds.

  5. MrPlywood 12/16/2010 at 6:23 PM #

    PS: With spell-check there is NO excuse for spelling errors. Grammar and style? Sure, especially concerning harder concepts like passive voice.

  6. packalum44 12/16/2010 at 6:59 PM #

    I’m more alarmed at how stupid this kid is. Run on sentences? Inappropriate use of capitalized letters? woW.

  7. LRM 12/16/2010 at 7:10 PM #

    I have college-educated grown men in the 40s and 50s working for me that can’t type a simple one-paragraph email without numerous misspellings, grammatical errors, syntax errors, run-on sentences, and punctuation errors, so the fact that a 20 year old football player can’t do it in an essay isn’t at all suprising.

  8. Phang 12/16/2010 at 7:20 PM #

    Spell Czech wood knot help every won.

  9. TAEdisonHokie 12/16/2010 at 7:55 PM #

    STLPack01:

    From the NCAA Regs on tutors:

    “Chapter 16, Awards and Benefits of the 2010-2011 NCAA Division 1 Manual:

    “16.3 ACADEMIC AND OTHER SUPPORT SERVICES

    16.3.1 Mandatory.

    16.3.1.1 Academic Counseling/Support Services. Member institutions shall make general academic counseling and tutoring services available to all student-athletes. Such counseling and tutoring services may be provided by the department of athletics or the institution’s nonathletics student support services. In addition, an institution may finance other academic and support services that the institution, at its discretion, determines to be appropriate and necessary for the academic success of its student-athletes. (Adopted: 1/10/91 effective 8/1/91, Revised: 4/25/02 effective 8/1/02, 5/9/06)

    16.3.1.1.1 Specific Limitations. An institution may provide the following support services subject to the specified limitations. (Revised: 5/9/06)

    (a) Use of institutionally owned computers and typewriters on a check-out and retrieval basis; however, typing/word processing/editing services or costs may not be provided, even if typed reports and other papers are a requirement of a course in which a student-athlete is enrolled; (Revised: 4/25/02 effective 8/1/02)”

    As a college professor, you work under different guidelines than those allowed by the NCAA for tutors. Based on the above, a tutor may not provide “typing/word processing/editing services”. What was done by the tutor for Mr. Ramsay falls under “editing services”.

  10. Elrod 12/16/2010 at 9:57 PM #

    ^ You also need to check out the tutors’ guidelines from UNC. They are to specifically work only in the support facility and only provide examples, suggestions and discussion about the subject matter. Methinks the ‘system’ was slightly abused.

  11. wolfonthehill 12/17/2010 at 8:44 AM #

    “Spell Czech wood knot help every won.”

    Ouch – it hurt my brain to read this. 🙂

  12. coach13 12/17/2010 at 10:46 AM #

    I agree w/ the professor earlier. The content doesn’t sound like it be changed much but for the conclusion. I thought the N&O was trying to make the crime seem petty by spelling out alot of grammatical changes.

    Still, my guess is they postponed the appeal for additional violations beyond that, ad we r not getting the whole story. I’m sorry but these idiots at UNX do not know how to cheat a little bit. With the self-entitlement attitudes, when they cheat they cheat big.

  13. oceanman 12/17/2010 at 11:13 AM #

    This does not pass any smell test. This is indeed a smoke screen. I have watched the SMU story several times on ESPN in the last week. The UNX mess has many similarities. Higher ups in state government running cover, denial of reality. When this house of cards falls, it will be interesting to see who all of those inside are. Dirty NC democrat politics brought down NCSU and it is covering up this UNX mess now. IT STINKS!!!

  14. highstick 12/17/2010 at 11:21 AM #

    Here’s a sampling of questions and Ramsey’s answers on a his admission exam:

    Question:
    Name six animals that live specifically in the Artic.

    Answer:
    4 seals and 2 polar bears

    Question:
    Name the early Romans’ greatest achievement.

    Answer:
    Learning to speak Latin

    Question:
    What is a nitrate?

    Answer:
    It’s cheaper than the dayrate.

    Question:
    Briefly explain hard water.

    Answer:
    Ice

    Question:
    Where was the Declaration of Independence signed?

    Answer:
    At the bottom

    Question:
    What happens during puberty to a boy?

    Answer:
    He says goodbye to his childhood and enters adultery.

    Question:
    What is the highest frequency noise that a human can register?

    Answer:
    Mariah Carey

    Question:
    Where was Hadrian’s Wall built?

    Answer:
    Around Hadrian’s garden.

  15. IamGumbyDammit 12/17/2010 at 1:09 PM #

    laughing at Highstick – outstanding post! I concur with others – overall the tutor assistance is not acceptable but not “grievous.” There MUST be more to the story that isn’t being told. Part of the Carolina Way is clearly “it isn’t a lie if we don’t tell you.”

  16. Pack Mentality 12/17/2010 at 2:21 PM #

    I do not believe for one second this is the reason he was permanently banned. Carolina put this out there so people would say “oh they just corrected some grammar and added a few sentences. They didn’t write the whole thing. He’s a dumbass football player anyway.”

    All the while they aren’t reporting the multiple papers that all he did was sign his name to. If there are multiple violations, and I believe there are, this was for sure the least serious one of them and this is all that they reported.

  17. NCSU88 12/17/2010 at 3:30 PM #

    Jedi mind tricks

  18. PackerInRussia 12/17/2010 at 4:15 PM #

    UNC should just re-brand their tutors as ghost writers.

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