UNC-CH Board of Trustees chair critical of N & O’s “opinion” (day 134)

Today the News and Observer published this letter from Robert Winston, the chairman of UNC-CH’s Board of Trustees.  The best part of the letter:

As Chancellor Holden Thorp has said, we don’t feel good about being in this situation, but we do feel good about how we’ve responded to it. We pledged from the start that we’d go where the facts took us, we’d find out how this happened and we’d figure out how to keep it from happening again.

The N&O’s opinion is just that, an opinion. We prefer to make our decisions based on facts.

Wow!  Remember, the UNC BOT is the body that, when given the chance to ask any scandal-related question of Thorp, Baddour, and Butch, had only one question, asked of Butch (paraphrased): “How is this affecting recruiting?”  I am not making that up.  That actually happened, as detailed in this entry.  So I guess “how is recruiting going?” is a vital, central question necessary for the BOT to reach its “decision based on facts.”

I don’t know the UNC-CH BOT’s politics well enough to be able to comment all that well on Winston.  For that sort of analysis, I rely on “BobLee,” a blogger who does.  Many of his recent columns have talked about Winston.  In particular I would suggest this one and this one.

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36 Responses to UNC-CH Board of Trustees chair critical of N & O’s “opinion” (day 134)

  1. ryno84 11/26/2010 at 11:15 AM #

    Cracks in the armour???? Weakness in the shroud of secrecy and mystique of the “Carolina Way”???

  2. burnbarn 11/26/2010 at 11:17 AM #

    This really is interesting.. first the chaiman of the faculty senate and now the chair of the BOT. Wonder when they will release the requested documents? This is why no one knows the ‘facts’. If the ‘facts’ bear the truth why don’t they release them to prove that position?
    Situation gets more interesting daily.

  3. highstick 11/26/2010 at 11:19 AM #

    Shall we count the number of dummies on that Board who shall respond? Let’s rank them by lack of IQ and common sense…Winston, you’re audience may be stupid, but WE AREN’T!

  4. bradleyb123 11/26/2010 at 11:35 AM #

    Carolinx really sucks. And I mean that more than their usual suckage.

    I hope the NCAA hammers them like no tomorrow.

  5. Kingfish1976 11/26/2010 at 11:46 AM #

    The entire tarhole organization reminds me of a prisoner on death row, in total denial, waiting on a pardon. The execution can’t come soon enough.

  6. Sweet jumper 11/26/2010 at 12:00 PM #


  7. old13 11/26/2010 at 12:08 PM #

    What a disgrace and embarrassment – to the entire UNC System!! BOTBob seems more like a board monkey than a board monkey!

  8. highstick 11/26/2010 at 12:08 PM #

    I’d prefer to see the type of execution as in Braveheart!! Rip their guts out!

  9. GAWolf 11/26/2010 at 12:42 PM #

    At first I was just going to respond with “the truth will set them free.” And then I became curious about the origin of that saying, most attributing to the Biblical book of John.

    Through research I ran across a page that is a collection of quotes on the concept of “truth.” In reading each quote, the next seemed more applicable than the prior although the first one is perfectly on point. Check these out and perhaps share them with BOTBob:

    God offers to every mind its choice between truth and repose. Take which you please – you can never have both. ~Ralph Waldo Emerson

    Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you mad. ~Aldous Huxley

    Truth, like milk, arrives in the dark
    But even so, wise dogs don’t bark.
    Only mongrels make it hard
    For the milkman to come up the yard.
    ~Christopher Morley, Dogs Don’t Bark at the Milkman

    It is error alone which needs the support of government. Truth can stand by itself. ~Thomas Jefferson, Notes on Virginia

    I never dreamed of being Shakespeare or Goethe, and I never expected to hold the great mirror of truth up before the world; I dreamed only of being a little pocket mirror, the sort that a woman can carry in her purse; one that reflects small blemishes, and some great beauties, when held close enough to the heart. ~Peter Altenberg

    The greatest enemy of any one of our truths may be the rest of our truths. ~William James

    Men ardently pursue truth, assuming it will be angels’ bread when found. ~W. MacNeile Dixon

    There is no god higher than truth. ~Mahatma Gandhi

    Truth has very few friends and those few are suicides. ~Antonio Porchia, Voces, 1943, translated from Spanish by W.S. Merwin

    The trouble about man is twofold. He cannot learn truths which are too complicated; he forgets truths which are too simple. ~Rebecca West

    It will never be possible by pure reason to arrive at some absolute truth. ~Werner Heisenberg, Physics and Philosophy

    Truth is rarely writ in ink; it lives in nature. ~Martin H. Fischer

    When I tell any truth, it is not for the sake of convincing those who do not know it, but for the sake of defending those that do. ~William Blake

    Truth only reveals itself when one gives up all preconceived ideas. ~Shoseki

    Without faith there is no truth, for that is all the truth is or ever was. ~Robert Brault, http://www.robertbrault.com

    There is no Truth. There is only the truth within each moment. ~Ramana Maharshi, attributed

    Truth is after all a moving target
    Hairs to split,
    And pieces that don’t fit
    How can anybody be enlightened?
    Truth is after all so poorly lit.
    ~Neil Peart, Turn the Page
    (Thank you, Ryan)

    Theories are private property, but truth is common stock. ~Charles Caleb Colton

    It is a terrible thing for a man to find out suddenly that all his life he has been speaking nothing but the truth. ~Oscar Wilde

    My truths do not last long in me. Not as long as those that are not mine. ~Antonio Porchia, Voces, 1943, translated from Spanish by W.S. Merwin

    Truth breeds hatred. ~Bias of Priene, Maxims

    If you cannot find the truth right where you are, where else do you expect to find it? ~Dogen

    People always think something’s all true. ~J.D. Salinger, Catcher in the Rye

    Truth is tough. It will not break, like a bubble, at a touch, nay, you may kick it all about all day like a football, and it will be round and full at evening. ~Oliver Wendell Holmes, The Professor at the Breakfast Table

    Truth, like gold, is to be obtained not by its growth, but by washing away from it all that is not gold. ~Leo Tolstoy

    Truth is the breath of life to human society. It is the food of the immortal spirit. Yet a single word of it may kill a man as suddenly as a drop of prussic acid. ~Oliver Wendell Holmes

    I am the fellow citizen of every being that thinks; my country is Truth. ~Alphonse de Lamartine, “Marseillaise of Peace,” 1841

    Like all dreamers, I mistook disenchantment for truth. ~Jean-Paul Sartre

    Truth is a great flirt. ~Franz Liszt

    I am of the Buddhists. The great Teacher comes periodically. He is followed by pupils who corrupt the texts and then a new Buddha must be born to reëstablish the truth. ~Martin H. Fischer

    We swallow greedily any lie that flatters us, but we sip only little by little at a truth we find bitter. ~Denis Diderot

    All great truths begin as blasphemies. ~George Bernard Shaw, Annajanska, 1919

    …Science and mathematics
    Run parallel to reality, they symbolize it, they squint at it,
    They never touch it: consider what an explosion
    Would rock the bones of men into little white fragments and unsky the world
    If any mind for a moment touch truth.
    ~Robinson Jeffers, “The Silent Shepherds,” The Beginning & the End

    The greatest truths are the simplest: so likewise are the greatest men. ~Augustus William Hare and Julius Charles Hare, Guesses at Truth, by Two Brothers, 1827

    I tore myself away from the safe comfort of certainties through my love for truth – and truth rewarded me. ~Simone de Beauvoir

    Man has always sacrificed truth to his vanity, comfort and advantage. He lives… by make-believe. ~W. Somerset Maugham, The Summing Up, 1938

    When one has one’s hand full of truth it is not always wise to open it. ~French Proverb

    Truth is no Doctoresse, she takes no degrees at Paris or Oxford… but oftentimes to such an one as myself, an Idiota or common person, no great things, melancholizing in woods where waters are, quiet places by rivers, fountains, whereas the silly man expecting no such matter, thinketh only how best to delectate and refresh his mynde continually with Natura her pleasaunt scenes, woods, water-falls, or Art her statelie gardens, parks, terraces, Belvideres, on a sudden the goddesse herself Truth has appeared, with a shyning lyghte, and a sparklyng countenance, so as yee may not be able lightly to resist her. ~Charles Lamb

    We do not err because truth is difficult to see. It is visible at a glance. We err because this is more comfortable. ~Alexander Solzhenitsyn

    The truth will set you free, but first it will make you miserable. ~Attributed to James A. Garfield

    Every truth passes through three stages before it is recognized. In the first, it is ridiculed, in the second it is opposed, in the third it is regarded as self-evident. ~Arthur Schopenhauer

    There is no truth. There is only perception. ~Gustave Flaubert

    If a thousand old beliefs were ruined in our march to truth we must still march on. ~Stopford Brooke

  10. PTOWOLF 11/26/2010 at 1:06 PM #

    Does anyone remember a similar letter written to the N&O during the Jimmy V scandal? I have a vague memory of someone from the NCSU administration writing something comparable.

  11. packplantpath 11/26/2010 at 1:26 PM #

    GA, you left off some of my favorite quotes from one of my favorite writers.

    “Nine times out of ten, in the arts as in life, there is actually no truth to be discovered; there is only error to be exposed. ”

    “The truth, indeed, is something that mankind, for some mysterious reason, instinctively dislikes. Every man who tries to tell it is unpopular, and even when, by the sheer strength of his case, he prevails, he is put down as a scoundrel.”

    or my favorite:

    “It is hard to believe that a man is telling the truth when you know that you would lie if you were in his place. ”

    H. L. Mencken

  12. GAWolf 11/26/2010 at 1:54 PM #

    Excuse my ignorance… but is Winston’s Grill owned by Bob Winston?

  13. burnbarn 11/26/2010 at 1:56 PM #

    not sure if it his or his diddy’s… his diddy started it. k

  14. wufpup76 11/26/2010 at 2:21 PM #

    I would say that the Holes are very aware that in the court of public opinion ‘perception’ is the only thing that matters.

    We can only hope that the NCAA is the ‘truth’ here, and that it matters.

  15. highstick 11/26/2010 at 2:29 PM #

    To seem, rather than to be…

  16. Master 11/26/2010 at 2:40 PM #

    GAWolf – Winston’s Grill is owned by BOTBob’s brother Charles Winston. IMHO Charles is a great guy – Bob, not so much. Given the opportunity to hang with either at the beach for a week, Bob gets left home every time.

  17. WolftownVA81 11/26/2010 at 2:53 PM #

    I can only hope the N&O gets tired of the high and mighty attitude of those in power at UNC-CHeat and finally starts exposing the truth of what’s going on. Keep it up Bob, maybe you’ll poke at the sleeping tiger one too many times (if it’s in fact still breathing).

  18. Master 11/26/2010 at 2:56 PM #

    Bob and the N&O probably drafted that letter together to make it look like they were both doing their job. They are not.

  19. highstick 11/26/2010 at 3:08 PM #

    That sounded like something that Kennel would have written for Fowler…

  20. GAWolf 11/26/2010 at 3:10 PM #

    Thanks, Master and burnbarn. I guess that means I can still eat there.

  21. Clarksa 11/26/2010 at 3:32 PM #

    Hot of the tweetdeck: BobLee: BOTBob Winston takes a wild swing at N&O …. when in doubt “BLAME THE MEDIA”! uh oh…

  22. ADVENTUROO 11/26/2010 at 3:41 PM #

    Alas and alack,

    I was celebrating my 45th wedding anniversary in Charleston and MISSED the Editorial that resulted in BOTBob’s letter. Here is the link, in case you missed it….it is really PRICELESS. I think that they just dusted off one of the many that they wrote in 1990 and changed the wording…..

    The previous posters are correct in that BOTBob is the brother of Charles Winston, Jr., the co-owner of Winstons Grille.

    Chales Winston, Sr. was Thad Eure’s partner in the Angus Barn, Darryls( sold for a very tidy sum to General Mills and THEY ran it into the ground….but they hired Charles and Thad to tell them WHAT they were doing wrong) and maybe the 42nd Street Oyster Bar.

    I believe, if my sources are correct that Charles, Sr. was a very infulential and connected UNC Alumnus. BOTBob was involved in the hospitality industry (Hampton Inns) prior to Winston Hotels.

    He then formed Winston Hotels which was a REIT. It was a high flyer in the late 90’s, selling for around $14 per share….it was bought out for $14 in 2007.

    If you want to know MORE about BOTBob, then go to WinstonHospitality.com

    NOTE, he was also the Chairperson of the RDU International Airport…..you know the one that built the NEW Terminal C and then tore it down and did all the “improvements” to the parking decks….yes that RDU.

    NOW, I fully understand WHY UNC is in this mess.

    BUT, you gotta give to BOTBob, he has made the sheckles and will probably be giving poor ole’ EX Gov, Mike, I’m a Convicted Felon, Easley a LOAN to pay his bills…..since Mike and his buddies have been “involved” with BOTBob on many occassions….

  23. GAWolf 11/26/2010 at 4:01 PM #


    Most importantly, congratulations on what in these days is a rare feet of marriage bliss. I hope you celebrate 45 more.

    Secondly, you made a statement in the post above that may very well clear up a TON of things lately that have left me scratching my head. Some of those puzzling things make a little more sense now.

  24. graywolf 11/26/2010 at 6:39 PM #

    The higher one sticks their nose in the air the less air there is to breath and eventually you will pass out for lack of oxygen……I wonder how high the collective noses of the UNC BOT is these days?

    The longer it takes for answers from the NCAA….the worse this situation is for Carolina…

  25. highstick 11/26/2010 at 7:00 PM #

    45 years? Holy crap! I didn’t think anyone on here was old enough to have surpassed my 38 1/2…You must be older than Willis Casey!

    Where was Winston’s Grill? I’m familiar with Thad and his restaurants, but I’m drawing a blank on Winston’s…

    Actually, the Angus Barn was one of my favorites back in the 60’s and 70’s…Don’t think I’ve been there but once or twice since I moved away though.

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