Swofford breaks his silence, harshly sanctions FSU women’s soccer team (Day 113) — 6:45 update

Before I get started, let me say a few things about yesterday’s happenings.  As everyone knows, Thorp came out with some awkwardly-worded statements about Butch Davis.  Watch here starting at the 48 second-mark if you want to hear Thorp in his own words say things such as

“I think what I said was that we don’t have any evidence that he knew.  I mean, you can’t prove a negative”


“In the future we need to know, that’s for sure.”

With these statements Thorp is digging himself further into the implausible “Coach Schultz” defense.  For this defense to hold water you have to believe such things as:

* Butch was totally ignorant about John Blake’s reputation and friendship with Wichard when these things were common knowledge. 

* Butch knew nothing (apparently even afterwards) about the Memorial Day weekend trip/agent party while somehow Kendric Burney (and certainly other players)  knew about it beforehand. 

* Butch employed the football tutor to help his son AFTER she was let go by the University, yet had no idea there was any problem with her work with the football team. 

That is just a partial list obviously (I don’t have time to get into the whole Chris Hawkins thing), and the things Butch supposedly didn’t know about his football program grows in number every day.  For a more complete discussion of the “Coach Schultz” defense, you can read this SFN entry  that was written way back on October 7th.


The big news today is that ACC Commissioner John Swofford has come out with a strongly-worded rebuke of the FSU women’s soccer coach over his decision to hold some of his players out of the ACC tournament in preparation for an NCAA run.  You can read about it here on the ACC’s official website.  Some quotes from Swofford:

“FSU’s action is disrespectful to our teams, players, coaches and the fans that support the ACC. It undermines the purity of the competition that a conference championship deserves.

“The value of sportsmanship and leadership runs deep in this league and both were lacking when Florida State made the decision to not participate in good faith at the ACC Championship.


“Conference action on this matter will be forthcoming.”

Swofford then had this to say about the mammoth ongoing UNC-CH football scandals:

Given Swofford’s silence regarding Butch Davis and the out-of-control UNC-CH football program, the Commissioner’s statements about the FSU women’s soccer team are totally ridiculous.  Swofford has nothing to say about UNC-CH employing an agent/runner on the football staff as Associate Head Coach, yet a soccer coach resting players “undermines the purity of the competition.”  Swofford can’t be serious!  “The value of sportsmanship and leadership…were lacking” when the FSU players stayed home, yet he has voiced no criticism about Butch privately employing a tutor who helped multiple players cheat.   Hilarious!

On the subject of holding out star players, this is very common in soccer.  The best players in the world are routinely held out of games to rest them for more important upcoming matches.  Also, didn’t Ty Lawson or someone sit out an ACC Tournament final in anticipation of the NCAA tournament?  Hasn’t Roy downplayed the ACC Tournament in general? 

Apparently Swofford or someone bugged Coach K into saying some things backing Swofford’s point of view.


6:45 update:

Just announced: the ACC office came down on the FSU women’s soccer with some amazingly harsh sanctions.  You can read the full official release here. 

The sanctions assessed are:

  • Suspension of head coach Mark Krikorian for Florida State’s next contest. This is inclusive of the first game in the NCAA Tournament, if Florida State is selected.
  • Forfeit of Florida State’s ACC Women’s Soccer Championship expense reimbursement (approximately $15,000).
  • Florida State will be assessed a fine of $25,000. This fine will be applied directly to the ACC Post Graduate Scholarship Fund.
  • A letter of reprimand from the Atlantic Coast Conference to Randy Spetman, Director of Athletics and Mark Krikorian, Head Women’s Soccer Coach.
  • Formal letter of apology (submitted by November 12) from Randy Spetman and Mark Krikorian, addressed to the Office of the Commissioner with a copy to the Faculty Athletics Representatives, Athletic Directors, Senior Woman Administrators and ACC Women’s Soccer Coaches.

Just think what the ACC will do to the UNC football progam.

UNC Scandal

23 Responses to Swofford breaks his silence, harshly sanctions FSU women’s soccer team (Day 113) — 6:45 update

  1. Wolf74 11/05/2010 at 5:57 PM #

    What else would anyone expect. I mean having a runner for an assistant head coach, having a tudor that does academic work for priemer players, having a jeweler from another state giving bling to top players, players receiving benefits from agents and giving another runner free access to the players in the top revenue sport is simply nothing in comparison to a coach doing what he feels is best to improve his chances at winning an NCAA championship. Why would anyone think Swofford should comment on anything other than that.

    Really, the guy is a total joke. The faster the ACC gets rid of him the better. Also, the BOG should have representation bassed on enrollment. It is obvious that UNC-Ch has much too much pull in the ACC and the UNC system.

  2. bradleyb123 11/05/2010 at 6:02 PM #

    I feel much better. I was beginning to think the man was a mute.

  3. coach13 11/05/2010 at 6:18 PM #

    The FSU thing is pretty crappy. He should be fired IMO. Who doesn’t coach to win at the collegiate level? I wonder if FSU’s AD knew this was happening?

  4. Clarksa 11/05/2010 at 6:42 PM #

    I think the coach was trying to prove a point about scheduling so I applaud him for having the balls to bring it out in the open…if that was his intention. Also, if I was FSU, I would be pissed at what the Swoff is doing…is there any precedent for such actions?

  5. Statefan1998 11/05/2010 at 6:46 PM #

    This is unbelievable. The bias that has been shown by this man is inexcusable.

  6. highstick 11/05/2010 at 6:50 PM #

    So I guess Swofford will now start monitoring pitching rotations in baseball??? Hmmmm!

    Guess he never thought about risking injury etc in a meaningless game…While I hated that in my Fantasy NFL League last year, I did understand that I was playing in a “fantasy” league versus the real world.

  7. DT44 11/05/2010 at 7:09 PM #

    ^So an ACC (or any) conference CHAMPIONSHIP is a “meaningless” game??
    Regular season is one thing….if they’re giving out a trophy and title then I’m playing to win.

  8. ADVENTUROO 11/05/2010 at 7:54 PM #

    I applaud Swofford’s actions as he now has precedent for MULTI-Million dollar fines and penalities against UNC. Obviously, John wanted FSU to “take a bullet” so that he could, in clear conscience, impose totally ridiculous penalities against UNC.

    Makes me think that Mr. Swofford will be tapped by Erskine to carry the DNC’s banner in 2012 as Mr. Swofford has shown MORE leadership in this EPIC SCANDAL of the FSU Women’s Soccergate fiasco that our current resident of 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue has in the past 22 months.

    I feel SFN has also maligned the lowly Cricket and Jiminy (with maybe Disney’s backing) will immediately bring suit for such impunement.

    I, for one, am glad that John and Nora have finally escaped from Dick Cheney’s Undisclosed Location Bunker. I was beginning to worry that we would only find their remains, perhaps in compromising positions, but NOW they are FREE, FREE, I say FREE AT LAST….to make such lofty statements.

  9. Pack84 11/05/2010 at 9:12 PM #

    bradleyb123 thought the guy was a mute. Hell – I thought the SOB was DEAD. Screw Swoffie and screw UNC-CHeat.

  10. timberwolf 11/05/2010 at 9:14 PM #

    Day 113. Not a word. No peep. FSU red head back in cellar.

    Either Hammer of God or gently tacking the rug back down.

  11. WV Wolf 11/05/2010 at 9:30 PM #

    Those penalties are just ridiculous. Can we still put in Glennon for Wilson in the 4th quarter of a blowout? Can Sid put in the walkons? Is there that much difference in those situations? Shouldn’t a coach be able to play whoever he wants?

  12. JeremyH 11/05/2010 at 9:57 PM #

    This is absurd. Is there an ACC rule on the minutes a starter should play? I do know there is some rule about agents and one about academic cheating, so why don’t we go for the low-hanging fruit first, aye Johnny? I hope someone at FSU or the media (ha right) raises a stink about this.

  13. ryebread 11/05/2010 at 10:10 PM #

    I think it’s great. He’s now laid very recent precedence by which we can compare what he does with UNC. Now he’ll either have to drop the hammer at UNC, or everyone in the media can just shut up about there not being a baby blue bias. They can’t have it both ways and this is a very clear example of how discipline should be handed out in the ACC.

    Someone send this to ESPN and Yahoo Sports. ESPN may not act on it, but Yahoo Sports surely will.

    It’s time for this sham to end.

  14. wolfbuff 11/05/2010 at 10:17 PM #

    I don’t disagree with the premise of his disappointment. But that’s all it should be – disappointment. What conference rule did they break? Would it have made any difference if they brought the players to the tournament and not played them?

  15. highstick 11/05/2010 at 10:20 PM #

    Couldn’t FSU just claim “they weren’t aware” that they had to send the first team..No one had ever told them that before…Now that we know, we’ll send them the next time…

    Play dumb, just like the Tarbungholes!

  16. 94MEGrad 11/05/2010 at 11:39 PM #

    What if the entire FSU soccer team had just forfeited their first round game and not traveled at all? Seriously, is there a contractual agreement that every member school must play in every game that is scheduled? I personally would have played my best players and tried to win but I have no problem with the coach doing what he thinks is best for his team. I’m struggling to see where the ACC office has the authority to fine and suspend a coach over his decision about playing time.

  17. Daily Update 11/06/2010 at 5:47 AM #

    I think the move by the conference is ridiculous. What if VT rests its starters in its final ACC game and another team gets a win they shouldn’t have otherwise? Is that messing with the integrity of the bowl selection process?

    Ty Lawson sat out the 2009 ACC tournament so he would be 100 percent for the NCAAs. Where was Swofford then? Do all lineups and substitutions now have to go through Swofford first?

  18. GoldenChain 11/06/2010 at 6:01 AM #

    Maybe Swafford was in the pumkin patch with Linus, “Nothing but sincerity as far as the eye can see!”

    Whatever happened to “coach’s decision”? The coach chose not to let several players travel with the team due to fatigue. End of story.

  19. whitefang 11/06/2010 at 7:39 AM #

    “Just think what the ACC will do to the UNC football progam.”

    *Suspension of Jeff Connor’s Associate Athletic Director of Strength and Conditioning for UNC’s next contest. This is inclusive of the any bowl game if UNC is selected although he will still receive 4 50 yard line tickets.
    *Forfeit of UNC’s Fencing Team’s expense reimbursement (approximately $50).
    *UNC will be assessed a fine of $100. This fine will be applied directly to the ACC Office petty cash drawer
    *A letter of reprimand from the Atlantic Coast Conference to Sara Frier, Editor of the Daily Tar Heel.
    *Formal letter of apology (submitted by January 2012) from Butch Davis and Richard Baddour, addressed to AJ’s Jewelry with a copy to Peter Schaffer of All Pro Sports & Entertainment and Gary Wichard of Pro Tect Management

    There’s some pretty harsh stuff coming with Swofford on the case!

  20. wolfonthehill 11/06/2010 at 10:37 AM #

    Hypocrisy, thy name is Swofford…

  21. graywolf 11/06/2010 at 11:20 AM #

    wolfonthehill………..you are most correct! Hypocrisy at its finest.

    Where or where is the local media?!?! The silence is deafening.

  22. Greywolf 11/07/2010 at 8:24 PM #

    Swofford fined Dabo Swinney because the Clempson QB took a knee on the last play of the game Saturday. Said the integrity of the game was compromised when Clempson didn’t try and score to cover the spread.

  23. danmcb26 11/11/2010 at 5:35 PM #

    will UNC get fined for screwing up other teams seasons? Think about it. They played ineligible players. They may forfeit wins at the end of the day, but the wins they had may have knocked another school out of the ACC championship or a BCS bowl. There is no way to go back and revisit a game that a team lost that knocked them out of the race for the conference championship. It is odd that nobody has mentioned how much UNCs cheating could have changed things. From recruiting to bowl games to national exposure. Yet this clown Swofford stays quiet and feels the need to attack FSU. If I were the AD at FSU I would publicly state that Swofford should focus on the schools in the conference who actually violated the integrity of the ACC

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