Maryland = ‘Nemesis’

Decades of playing in a relatively stable conference can create some interesting trends and history between programs. While rivalries are often born of geographic location, alumni interaction and annual ‘game importance’, other secondary rivalries are often born of other trends and experiences.

The N&O had an article today that focused on the scheduling of NC State’s final game. It rehashes the same point that the SFN community discusses at the end of every season – the ACC office needs to figure out how to schedule more ‘traditionally’ at the end of the season and find some ‘structure’ for the conference, and NC State.

Link to article

What is secondary in the article is some of the supporting information of how the Maryland Terrapins football program has evolved into NC State ‘nemesis’ during the Ralph Friedgen era. For whatever reason, Friedgen and the Terps have found ways to break the hearts of NC State fans at the end of multiple seasons over the last ten years.

In addition to the 2001 game discussed below, horrible memories of Philip Rivers’ senior day in 2003 and the end of Tom O’Brien’s first season in Raleigh in 2007 (0-37) linger for NC State fans. Hopefully, today is the day that NC State can find a way to right our ship against our Atlantic Division ‘nemesis’.

That Nov. 17, 2001 Maryland and N.C. State meeting in Raleigh rivaled today’s game in terms of importance.

The 23-19 win by Ralph Friedgen’s first team clinched the ACC championship for Maryland. At 10-1 overall and 7-1 in the league, the Terps were the surprise team in the nation before getting routed (56-23) by Florida in the Orange Bowl.

But Maryland indirectly owed its title to Chuck Amato, N.C. quarterback Philip Rivers and the Wolfpack.

The Terps had lost (52-31) to Florida State on Oct. 27. But a week before facing Maryland, the Wolfpack went to Tallahassee, Fla., and pulled off a 38-24 stunner that put Maryland in control of the race.

Florida State finished 6-2 but had to settle for the Gator Bowl, where it defeated Virginia Tech 30-17, after the loss to N.C. State.

Amato and his players didn’t make an issue of it, but there was a letdown against Maryland the following week. N.C. State recovered to beat Ohio and finished 4-4 in the league and 7-5 overall after losing to Pittsburgh in the Tangerine Bowl.

For N.C. State, the many finales against Maryland have never been an ideal fit. The fact that today’s game falls a week after an emotionally charged game at North Carolina could work against the Pack.

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27 Responses to Maryland = ‘Nemesis’

  1. Phang 11/27/2010 at 11:32 AM #

    It has nothing to do with the topic at hand, but I just had to quote BrickTop

    “Do you know what “nemesis” means? A righteous infliction of retribution manifested by an appropriate agent. Personified in this case by an ‘orrible *unt – me. “

  2. BJD95 11/27/2010 at 11:47 AM #

    I woke up supremely confident. No specific basis for it, but we are going to take care of business today. It’s going to be a very satisfying feeling.

    Based on this morning’s story in the paper, sounds like Nate Irving will refuse to let us lose this game. He wants it BAD.

  3. Sweet jumper 11/27/2010 at 12:00 PM #

    Their little running back worries me. He is very quick and elusive, and we have a tendency to give up big plays. SHUT HIM DOWN! Now go out there and kick ’em!!!!!!!!!!!!

  4. 61Packer 11/27/2010 at 12:02 PM #

    Doesn’t matter who we play last, as long as we win.

  5. Dogbreath 11/27/2010 at 12:34 PM #

    If I see those goddamned red pants today I will immediately turn the television off. I want white britches with white stocking’s pulled up to the knees. The 2000-2003 storm trooper uniform combo.

    Taking many liberties to paraphrase Hyman Roth, “If I wake up and see white britches, I will know we have a deal.”

  6. ncsu_kappa 11/27/2010 at 12:40 PM #

    MD has become Duke’s non-Tobacco road rival over the years. They hate them in Bball like we do in Basketball. Given our historical significance, Greatest Bball game ever played. They have done the same thing to us in football. I would like to see NC State keep MD as a rite of passage to the Conf Championship.

    Or in our down years, give us the opportunity to damn them to bowl obscurity when they have a shot at greatness.

    With all that said, keep your fingers crossed for Duke today gents. Lets hope for salt poured into the univ. n. caro”whine”a wound

  7. PoppaJohn 11/27/2010 at 12:40 PM #

    ^ No more down years!!!

    Got to play defense all day today. It’s a road game, we need to get up and stay up.

    I like controlling our destiny – so this year the Maryland game is perfect. I’d hate sitting around hoping that (for example) Wake upsets FSU, Duke upsets UNC, and it snows, etc in order that we win the division.

    If we win, we earned it. If we lose, we blew it.

    HOWEVER, I do agree with the point of the article. It would be great to end the season with a traditional rival game with Wake, alternating locations.

    GO PACK! You CAN win this game, the only question is WILL YOU???

  8. codebrown 11/27/2010 at 12:49 PM #

    “Ralph Fridge ate his children!”

    Best Terps heckle ever.

  9. SMD 11/27/2010 at 1:03 PM #

    I lived in the DC area for years before moving back to God’s country and I am convinced, that had I grown up there, I would hate Maryland worse than UNC-CH.

    One of the things that makes the Maryland series into a bit of a rivalry is their absolutely terrible, classless fans. Now I know, that EVERY fanbase has it’s share of bad apples, ours included. But on the whole, I’ve never interacted with a fanbase that acts so terrible – including South Carolina at the height of the Joe Morrison/Todd Ellis days – so that’s saying something.

    I”ll never forget how their players interacted with our fans in both the 2001 and 2003 games down here. In 01, the player stood on their bench, point to their ring fingers, specifically aiming the gesture at our fans.

    A couple of years ago, I was fortunate enough to go on a WPC junket to the b-ball game at Maryland and we had a suite. For the mere sin of pulling positively for our own team, the Terp fans were shouting obscenities at us, flipping the bird, etc. And these were the BOOSTERS, not the students.

    I’ve tried to put my finger on it over the years, and I think it boils down to the fact that Maryland is a college program that has pro sports style fans. Think about it – the Maryland behavior is what you see typically at a Philly Eagles game or a NY Yankees game.

  10. I-Like-Tacos 11/27/2010 at 1:04 PM #

    I’ve never pulled for Maryland again after the 2001 game. When I saw all those oranges fly threw the air and land on the Carter-Finley turf, (while the game was still being played), I vowed I would never hope they win another game unless it was against UNX. The sad thing is, I used to like them ok growing up, but their fans ruined all that. Screw Mary and her Land. Hope we kick the crap out of them today.

  11. El Lobo Loco! 11/27/2010 at 1:26 PM #

    We fear the turtle… NOT!!!
    this time the Pack comes with momentum and will hopefully win!!!

  12. LRM 11/27/2010 at 1:35 PM #

    I’m curious if the ACC’s plan is to have a State-Carolina finale only in years when the game is in Raleigh, so that way they can still maintain the pretentious Carolina-Duke football “rivalry.”

  13. StateFans 11/27/2010 at 1:55 PM #

    Can’t agree more with SMD. The way that both their players acted and the experiences with their fans were amazing.

    Do you guys remember when their team actually started a fight with our BAND? Come on. OUR BAND in warm-ups prior to the game. That’s crazy.

  14. Cosmo96 11/27/2010 at 2:11 PM #

    I wrote last week that in recent history, every time NC State had an opportunity to move to the next level by winning a game, we’ve **** the bed. There’s a lot of history to overcome, even though we did come through last week. Until we actually take that next step (i.e. win the division), I’ll continue to be pessimistic. That includes this game as well. We’re the better team, but we were also better than ECU, and probably Clemson. Something always happens to kick us in the collective nuts and prevent us from taking that next step.

    I also wrote last week that no one knows how happy I would be to be wrong about all this, and that remains true.

  15. NCSU84 11/27/2010 at 2:42 PM #

    Cosmo96, everything you wrote is true. But it has been 31 years since we won an ACC title – 31 years!! At some point in time, NCSU will win another title. Perhaps this is the year. I mean, even a broken clock is right twice a day.

  16. StateFans 11/27/2010 at 2:44 PM #

    Cosmo…I totally agree.

    However, THIS SEASON that trend has broken.

    The FSU game was one that allowed us to move to the next level. We won. it.

    The UNC game last weekend was also one. We wont it.

    I’ve actually started a blog entry about this – “Big games beget big games”

  17. wufpup76 11/27/2010 at 3:20 PM #

    F Maryland.

    But it’s been my experience that whenever you make a contest personal it tends to backfire against you in some way (I’m not talking about as a fan – I mean actually competing. I hope our guys are supremely focused today).

    “Do you guys remember when their team actually started a fight with our BAND?”

    ^I was sitting on the lower level right there when that happened. I could not believe it. And our band members weren’t even doing or saying anything to provoke anyone. Really … how classless do you have to be to try to pick a fight with the band when you’re in full pads and helmets? It was surreal. The real kicker though was that their special teams coach and D coordinator were encouraging them to do this.

    “WE ARE MARYLAND! FEAR US!”

    Um, ok.

    I can take losing to them. I can even take their fans so long as you don’t have to deal w/ them for so long. But their players and coaches are the EXACT SAME WAY. What’s in the water up there? It’s in their culture. All their coaches have this “Us against the world” mentality b/c they are so hateful that the ACC is rooted in NC. Fine, use that. Doesn’t mean you have to be a complete classless prick.

    I thought we were bad, but UMd takes the cake for superiority / inferiority complexes.

    Queue the ‘Under Armour’ “I THINK YOU HEAR US COMING! CLICK CLACK!” bullsh*t. Just please go die.

  18. choppack1 11/27/2010 at 3:27 PM #

    I have no idea whether we’ll win today or not, but the FSU game and UNC game shows that this team believes it will do something special. I’m hoping that this is one of those games where we click on all cylinders and dominate our opposition. I want the Cincy or GaTech game…I have a feeling we won’t be that lucky.

    Right now, we’re 3-3 in close games – we’re 5-0 in the others. Neihter 6-0 or 4-3 should be too much to ask.

  19. 61Packer 11/27/2010 at 3:34 PM #

    I’m keeping hearing that Maryland fans are the worst. Does that include ECU fans?

  20. Stillastatefan 11/27/2010 at 3:45 PM #

    Wanna know why I hate Maryland?

    Two words: Lefty Driesell.

    I’d be OK with a 103-100 overtime win today. Go Pack!

  21. Plz2BStateFan 11/27/2010 at 4:03 PM #

    Countdown to the broken hearts of all wolfpack fans

    T-minus 4 hours.

  22. Dogbreath 11/27/2010 at 4:12 PM #

    Sweet. Storm trooper look it is.

  23. GAWolf 11/27/2010 at 5:52 PM #

    Ron Cherry can suck it.

  24. theghost 11/27/2010 at 7:59 PM #

    Everybody just calm down. Maryland didn’t win that game today, they were mere bystanders, mercenaries in a bigger, cosmic war against the dark and sinister forces of mediocrity – real Lord of the Rings kind of stuff. What you saw today was just one more battle. These evil powers fight for the ideals of laziness, inertia, status quo, and cowering at the sight of blue. They control far more than you care to believe – SEC basketball, the NFC West, France – and for 20 years, Raleigh has been their flagship, their lighthouse, their center of athletic operations. They see themselves losing control of our athletic department, and they’re a dangerous, wounded animal, and this is them fighting back.

    At first they thought the basketball recruiting was an anomaly, but they’ve been running scared since Woodson showed up. Then Darth Fowler got sacked, and Yow was a shot across their bow, and now they’ve awakened, and they feel it slipping away, and they know if they don’t do something, they’ll control little more than Sun Devil basketball and the Sun Belt before it’s all over with. I’m surprised they didn’t show up stronger at the unc game.

    These things happen. It’s a sign of something happening, an uprising of the sleeping forces of working hard, measuring performance, and raising expectations. It won’t be pretty, but people, this is a 20-year war, you’re going to have some ups and downs. We’ve just got to keep fighting and hoping good wins out in the end.

  25. islandbreeze 11/27/2010 at 8:20 PM #

    O’brien doesn’t get the Maryland or Clemson rivalry.

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