Defensive Improvements

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To me, defensive improvements should be one of the key story lines to this year’s State/FSU match-up.   Last year’s match-up pitted two of the ACC’s best offenses against each other’s pitiful defenses.   This combination led to the expected track meet won by FSU 45-42.

Both teams are better this year on the defensive side of the ball, but the change at FSU has been quite dramatic:

 

FSU DEFENSIVE STATS:

  2009     2010  
  Nat ACC   Nat ACC
  Rank Rank   Rank Rank
Rushing Defense 108 12   17 2
Pass Defense 77 11   49 9
Total Defense 108 12   20 2
Scoring Defense 94 10   13 1

 

Note:  The standard caveats of partial vs full season, effect of OOC opponents, etc all apply here.   However, the changes on defense in Tallahassee are far deeper than just some statistical anomaly.

If you followed the trials and tribulations of Bobby Bowden’s last year at FSU, then you undoubtedly read many condemnations of the coaching staff, especially on the defensive side of the ball.   Frankly, this table confirms for me just about every negative thing that I read last year.

The changes in State’s defense are more subtle and not really evident when presented with the same broad brush as FSU:

 

NCSU DEFENSIVE STATS:

  2009     2010  
  Nat ACC   Nat ACC
  Rank Rank   Rank Rank
Rushing Defense 57 5   58 5
Pass Defense 69 9   46 8
Total Defense 55 8   47 7
Scoring Defense 99 11   55 8
Turnover Margin 114 12   29 5

 

I included TO Margin since that one stat is probably more important to a marginal team than a few yards per game in any other category.   In 2008, State was 3rd in the conference (22nd in nation) and rallied at the end of the season for TOB’s lone bowl appearance at State.    Last year, take-aways went on the DL along with alot of starters.    It doesn’t take much FB knowledge to realize that turnovers are clearly one of the keys for State today and for the rest of the season.

But of course, the defenses don’t take the field against each other, so let’s use this same broad brush to look at tonight’s match-ups.   When State has the ball:

 

  NCSU Offense FSU Defense
  Nat ACC Nat ACC
  Rank Rank Rank Rank
Rushing 83 8 17 2
Passing 7 1 49 9
Total 21 1 20 2
Scoring 17 2 13 1

 

I’m absolutely positive that those complaining about State not running enough will be heard from again after this game.   Or at least I hope that Bible hasn’t designed his game plan to match NCSU’s offensive weakness against FSU’s defensive strength.

When FSU has the ball:

  NCSU Defense FSU Offense
  Nat ACC Nat ACC
  Rank Rank Rank Rank
Rushing 58 5 19 3
Passing 46 8 70 7
Total 47 7 37 3
Scoring 55 8 21 3

 

Both of these last two tables show match-ups that will hopefully help make up for FSU’s overall advantage in talent.   FSU’s weakest defense unit matches up nicely with State’s best offense weapons of Wilson and a bevy of receivers.   On the other side of the ball, Ponder’s passing has not been as effective as last year and I put State’s secondary as one of its weakest units.

 

CONCLUSION

My take on most games has remained about the same for the last three years…if Wilson performs, then the worst-case scenario is that State loses in a shoot-out.   On the other hand if Wilson is off, then I don’t even want to consider the worst-case scenario.

if you have not been following the FSU conversation in the forums along with a number of stories on the main blog, then you have missed out on a number of good links to places like Backing the Pack and Tomahawk Nation.   For those that want a more in-depth review, I would recommend visiting all three places.

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12 Responses to Defensive Improvements

  1. VaWolf82 10/28/2010 at 11:10 AM #

    My apologies for the appearance of the tables. I made the mistake of using a new software package to prepare the entry…and it’s not nearly as easy to use as advertised. Hopefully, I’ll get the hang of using it soon.

  2. Packfan28 10/28/2010 at 11:16 AM #

    Based on these stats, I would expect to see a replay of the BC game from an offensive strategy perspective. Lots of high percentage short passes that will serve the same purpose as running plays.

  3. tuckerdorm1983 10/28/2010 at 12:20 PM #

    we are a 3 to 4 point underdog at this point. I will put it to you like this. RW throws more than one INTs (not counting tip balls) and we are toast.

  4. wufpup76 10/28/2010 at 12:44 PM #

    I’m not worried if we run the ball or not … I’d like to see some semblance of a running game, if for nothing else than a change of pace or to perhaps take some pressure off of Wilson and pass protection.

    That said, we absolutely should have developed more of a running game in Greenville. Of course, that day was such a disaster all the way around that it should just be flushed down the toilet and forgotten.

  5. wolfbuff 10/28/2010 at 12:56 PM #

    FSU’s pass defense numbers are a little misleading in my opinion, especially when you consider their sack and tackle for loss numbers. Our OL is, to say the least, leaky. If they don’t markedly improve their pass blocking and pick up the blitz, RW is going to be running for his life (again), which makes him prone to mistakes. If they can do that and we can keep them off balance, I actually think we can have some relative success running the ball. But as TOB said, we’re going to have to play a perfect game to have a chance at winning. These guys are good and well-coached. The crowd will be there in force and fired up. So we’ll see what happens after the coin flip. That’s all that matters.

  6. VaWolf82 10/28/2010 at 12:59 PM #

    I agree with your concerns about State’s OL. When you combine the pitiful rushing numbers with an even worse sack-allowed ranking, you don’t get a pretty picture. On the other hand, it’s not like this is RW’s first season with a bad line.

  7. MP 10/28/2010 at 1:01 PM #

    I will sit down to this game tonight assuming that FSU will hold us to our lowest scoring output of the season (say 17 – 24 points). I would LOVE to see us prove that we can match up with them on that basis and win a low-scoring game. I can’t remember the last time I saw NC State win against a good opponent that way, but I’m somewhat optimistic…

  8. Bowlpack 10/28/2010 at 1:10 PM #

    Other than OU, has FSU really faced a high caliber offensive team? We could argue that ECU (36.8 ppg) and VPI (37 ppg) could be a big reason for our less drastic improvement by comparison. Miami is the only team (other than Oklahoma) that has the potential to put up big numbers and they have not really done that so far this year. I hope that our offense comes up big tonight and makes it our game to lose. That being said, the OL comments are spot on and they will have to play better than they have this season in order to give our offense that opportunity. We’ll see, I mean isn’t that why they play the games…?

  9. RickJ 10/28/2010 at 1:34 PM #

    “I agree with your concerns about State’s OL. When you combine the pitiful rushing numbers with an even worse sack-allowed ranking, you don’t get a pretty picture.”

    I agree on the rushing numbers but believe the sack-allowed ranking is bogus. The sack-allowed ranking of 10th in the ACC is simply based on total sacks allowed – 17 in our case. However, State has the most pass attempts in the league at 306 meaning we have given up a sack on every 18 pass attempts. FSU, on the other hand comes in at 5th in the league on sacks-allowed with 13 but are giving up a sack every 15.7 pass attempts on 204 pass attempts.

  10. Prowling Woofie 10/28/2010 at 3:34 PM #

    The rushing attack cannot continue to be the dive up the middle play that Bible seems to love. That works just fine when you’ve got bulldozers up front that can plow the field for you.

    NCSU is not there yet. Some misdirection needs to be employed to help the OL get angles on the DL and thus create lanes for the backs.

    If the Pack manages 100+ yards on the ground, the mid-range passing attack from play-action should eat FSU alive.

    I just don’t see the wisdom in trying the ‘deep ball at all costs’ scheme against a team with terrific athletes.

  11. bradleyb123 10/28/2010 at 3:40 PM #

    What irritates me is when it’s 3rd down, no matter how many yards to go, we seem to sling it a country mile WAY too often. Every time we’re at 3rd down, I think to myself, “Just this once, would you PLEASE just try to get enough for a first down???” Sometimes they do, but on key drives, it seems like we throw that low percentage 40 yard pass, and then punt.

  12. Prowling Woofie 10/28/2010 at 4:20 PM #

    ^ And God bless Lefler – he’s an improvement over Ruiz – but I don’t want him factoring heavily in the outcome !

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