The ‘Good’ and the Bad of Saturday Football Notes

Wanted to open this entry if anyone wanted to share thoughts & observations from Meet the Pack Day, et al.

ACCNow has some comments linked here. The key take-away from Coach O’Brien’s comments currently making its way around Twitter is that “We have enough weapons.” (You can click here to view SFN’s recent Tweets)

These two items were of particular interest to me:

Creecy, Greene impress. After performing well in the team’s second preseason scrimmage Friday night, freshman running backs Anthony Creecy and Mustafa Greene have a shot at earning the team’s No. 3 running back position.

“Mustafa Greene and Tony Creecy look to be pretty talented,” O’Brien said. “They’re in there trying to figure out who’s fighting for a spot on the team.”

Junior Curtis Underwood and sophomore James Washington still are competing for the No. 1 spot at running back. O’Brien plans to rotate two running backs and get playing time for a third back.

High praise for Crisp. O’Brien said former Raleigh Athens Drive offensive tackle Robert Crisp, the jewel of N.C. State’s 2010 recruiting class, is talented enough to be an All-Pro in the NFL some day.

O’Brien said Crisp’s head is swimming during his first preseason camp because of the complexity of the college game, but said Crisp is everything the Wolfpack coaches thought he could be when they recruited him.

“He has that makeup where he doesn’t get down and he gets back to the huddle and goes back out and forgets about the last play and goes on to the next one,” O’Brien said. “And that’s a good trait to have.”

Now for the bad news…Denzelle Good and Morgan Alexander are no longer a part of the program. We highlighted Good’s absence with some concern just a couple of weeks ago. Alexander appeared to be a ubiquitous defensive back whose name I never even knew…so, I can’t say that he will be missed. But, losing Good is more of a major blow than many people will notice simply because he is an offensive lineman that doesn’t get the kind of publicity as the skill players.

Good, from Gaffney, SC, was ranked as the #5 offensive guard in the country and a 5-star recruit by Scout.com coming out of high school a couple of years ago. He was listed at 6 feet 6 inches tall and 325 pounds. To be fair and balanced – it is going to be hard to talk about the ‘strong, young foundation’ that Tom O’Brien has been building when the absolute best players of his last couple of recruiting classes are no longer with the program.

With this attrition and some other recent changes in the program, it appears that NC State will have more like 20 scholarships available this recruiting season as opposed to the originally projected 16.

Another link of interest — WRAL: NC State players say no rust on Russell Wilson

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14 Responses to The ‘Good’ and the Bad of Saturday Football Notes

  1. TheAliasTroll 08/14/2010 at 5:41 PM #

    I honestly think we’ll be tougher and better team this season than many think. Oh no, I’m doing it again, I’m getting my hopes up before the season!

  2. Prowling Woofie 08/14/2010 at 5:47 PM #

    Unfortunately, to play in college – at least at NC State – you still have to attend and succeed in class, no matter how many ‘stars’ you had in high school. Apparently, Good and Alexander weren’t.

    Hope they re-group and take their education seriously, wherever they land.

  3. highstick 08/14/2010 at 6:41 PM #

    “You still have to attend and succeed in class” as opposed to what that do west of Raleigh at the other “flagship”!

  4. StateFans 08/14/2010 at 7:25 PM #

    I am more optimistic today about this year than I was 3 weeks ago.

  5. pdwolf 08/14/2010 at 10:17 PM #

    O’Brien never really said much in the past that was optimistic. So if he is optimistic, so am I.

  6. TheCOWDOG 08/14/2010 at 11:10 PM #

    ^ Me too. If 5 star recruits are your gig…you’ve never played a down.

  7. pman27 08/14/2010 at 11:56 PM #

    “To be fair and balanced – it is going to be hard to talk about the ‘strong, young foundation’ that Tom O’Brien has been building when the absolute best players of his last couple of recruiting classes are no longer with the program. ”

    Sorry Statefans – you are referring to Good and who else? Just not remembering the top recruit from two years ago.

    Also, wasn’t Alexander considered a top small WR and punt returner? Having Bryan Underwood may offset his loss, but he wasn’t a ubiguitous DB.

  8. StateFans 08/15/2010 at 7:56 AM #

    Agree re: Underwood (& Palmer & others). Alexander isn’t a big loss.

    But, how many 5 stars has O’Brien recruited?

    Good?
    Glennon?
    and Crisp?

    Any others?

    So, we’ve lost 33% of our absolute best recruits of the last 2 classes. I bet the presence of Good meant at least 3 or 4 spots in the recruiting rankings. It doesn’t take many losses to go from having a Top 25 recruiting class to really having a Top 35 class.

  9. CaptainCraptacular 08/15/2010 at 8:59 AM #

    I was under the impression Creecy was recruited for WR?

  10. StateFans 08/15/2010 at 10:10 AM #

    ^ I’ve been curious about this as well. I think Creecy was a WR in high school…but, it is obvious that right now he is working at RB. We have a lot of depth at WR right now…but, most of it is in the Junior and Senior classes. It would seem that there is definitely a need for some young WRs for the future.

  11. bTHEredterror 08/15/2010 at 11:32 AM #

    Creecy was a multi-purpose player and a kick returner. I thought he was a WR, too. But that first practice tape showed me why he is playing RB, he has RB’s body lean and feet. I won’t be surprised if he supplants Washington. I’m sure Bible loves his hands with our offense as well.

  12. SMD 08/15/2010 at 11:55 AM #

    Today’s N&O had a nice article on the secondary. The basic point was that after getting torched all last year, experience – in and of itself – should yield some improvement.

    I tend to agree with that. If we can get torched 3-4 times less per game, that in itself may help us with a win or two. Perhaps it’s one less TD that the offense will have to produce.

    Of course, the key words in this post, as with all things NC State-related are IF and PERHAPS. 🙂

    Here’s hoping for the best, but expecting the worst.

  13. tvp1 08/15/2010 at 12:02 PM #

    I disagree with a couple of points here:

    I think Alexander is a big, big loss. He impressed from the first practices that he participated in last year, according to reports. He has been talked up a lot over the past year by the “insiders.” Our WR corp loses almost everyone to graduation over the next two years; he would have played a huge role.

    Good is a loss too, but he was not a 5 start recruit. Scout had him as a 4, not 5, star and the other recruiting services had him as a 3 star, middle of the road type guy. He definitely was not considered to be in the same class as Glennon and Crisp.

  14. StateFans 08/16/2010 at 9:47 AM #

    ^Thanks for the insight and detail. Much appreciated.

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