Baker, Young hope for improved stock following Pro Day

How fast can you run 40 yards? How high can you jump? How many times can you push 225 lbs. off your chest?

NFL Scouting is a numbers game. Whether or not those numbers have any impact on who can actually play football is anybody’s guess, but every NFL team relies on a select few to scout potential players and figure out who the next prime time players are.

That numbers-driven atmoshpere was on full display Wednesday at the Murhpy Center for NC State’s Pro Day as 15 football players tried out for scouts from every NFL team. The atmosphere felt more like meat market than a workout session. But when millions of dollars and jobs are on the line, I guess that’s what to expect.

Running back Toney Baker, who came back in 2009 after missing two years due to injury, was perhaps the most intriguing player for scouts to assess. He did not disappoint, running an unofficial 4.53 40-yard dash and doing 27 reps on the bench press. He weighed in at 235 lbs. and recorded a 37″ vertical.

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Here’s JP Giglio’s story from today’s N&O.

The audition for NFL scouts at N.C. State on Wednesday attracted an array of hopefuls.

The last-call long shots outnumbered the legitimate draft prospects, but there was a little bit of everything for the approximately 30 scouts to measure, evaluate and test at the Murphy Center. There were former five-star recruits, former walk-ons and a former basketball player who hadn’t played football since middle school.

Mostly, there were a lot of numbers being thrown, not entirely unlike a livestock auction. There were the usual metrics (the 40-yard dash, the bench press, vertical jump) and the not-so usual (hand size?).

Toney Baker, N.C. State’s leading rusher in 2009, hoped Wednesday’s tests would ease any doubts about a knee injury that cost him two seasons and also show his increased bulk.

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4 Responses to Baker, Young hope for improved stock following Pro Day

  1. Wolfy__79 03/25/2010 at 5:40 PM #

    good luck toney!

  2. SeaWolf 03/26/2010 at 11:03 AM #

    Derek, did Baker do the 3-cone, broad jump and shuttles as well?

    As of now, he’d have been 8th of RB’s (from the combine) at the 40, 1st in the bench press, and 7th at the vertical. I think they forgot to mail his invite. http://www.nfl.com/combine/top-performers

    However, the three events you haven’t reported would be the ones that prove his knee is healed well enough as they measure lateral speed and shock absorption.

    Also, Giglio’s reference to hand measuement is simply to see if you can hold the ball. Having probably not tracked Baker (or definitely not Harris), scouts have no idea if you’re hands are too small or other nuiances.

  3. SeaWolf 03/26/2010 at 11:15 AM #

    Found his times.
    3 Cone: 7.40 (Pretty bad for an RB)
    20 yd Shuttle: 4.30 (10th of the combine)

  4. Wolfy__79 03/27/2010 at 12:06 AM #

    do yawl think baker could tough it out a fullback?? he’s a pretty good receiver and he’s flat out huge. that’s what i’m hoping for.

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