State actually wins a team championship in an ACC sanctioned event (ie: not Bass Fishing) [Updated noon]

As resident SFN Statistician, WV Wolf, posted much fo the following on our message boards this weekend:

NC State’s Men’s Cross Country team won the ACC Championship this weekend. (Link to

This is State’s first ACC Title since winning the ACC Wrestling Championship on March 3, 2007; spanning a stretch of 973 days.

In the 56 years since the formation of the Atlantic Coast Conference in 1953, NC State had never experienced such a drought between team titles. In fact, until the last two years, the NC State Athletics Department had never experienced two consecutive academic years without winning a team championship.

But, Lee Fowler’s Department continues to set all sorts of historical records for NC State Athletics! With this said, you must read the ‘Unholy Trinity’ article from last week as a complement to this entry.

‘Classof89’ posted a little perspective of the championship on our message boards.

My first impression on hearing the news was “well, they always win, don’t they?” But in fact, Pack men were only barely in the national top 30, behind three other ACC teams. So this is, in fact, a clutch performance…

When we historically post comments regarding the ‘strength’ of the Wolfpack’s cross country, rifle and gymnastics programs we typically make some facetious comments about the importance of our ‘fuhcilities’ to generate this success – obviously there is something pretty special about the forests in and around Raleigh. Today, we will highlight the fantastic comments from fvpackman on the forums:

To think we spent 100 mil on “fuhclities” as Uncle Jed would say. And all we needed was a 50 acre patch of woods…I have a 1st class cross country facility in my backyard….I could have kept all those thousands I gave for Football,Basketball and Baseball…What a fool I have been .

Lastly, in typical fashion, can’t seem to count. Their story reads “NC State, which won its 14th men’s championship” when this is actually the men’s 15th ACC Title. Gotta love it.

Post-script #1: We try to be as absolutely accurate and frame information with as wide of a lense as possible. Please note that NC State won a gymnastics championship last year; but please note that is NOT an ACC sport. Similarly, Rifle won a SEARC championship (and finished last in the GARC).

Post-script #2: As far as the error of 14 titles vs 15 titles — the article on the ACC’s website has the error as does the story (which also ended up in the N&O). It’s sad when a fan with an excel file has better data than the SID.

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6 Responses to State actually wins a team championship in an ACC sanctioned event (ie: not Bass Fishing) [Updated noon]

  1. Khan 11/03/2009 at 11:16 AM #

    Congrats to the team!

    Unfortunately, that championship cost us two more players in the secondary.

  2. Tar Heel Fan 11/03/2009 at 12:04 PM #

    I actually have a small soft spot for NCSU cross country. The head cross country coach at UNCG during my first two years there was Suzie Tuffey who won the 1985 NCAA cross country national championship running for NC State.

  3. b 11/03/2009 at 9:33 PM #

    So when did Steve Stifler start coaching the UVa CC team?

  4. Dogbreath 11/04/2009 at 7:11 AM #

    The great irony with respect to facilities is that, in contrast to the fine facilities and institutional advantages enjoyed in all of our other sports, cross country is the LAST sport that you would expect a school that is smack dab in the middle of a city to be good at. Its not like our campus is surrounded by thousands of acres of rolling hills, trails, and mountains. Clemson, Va Tech, UVA, etc., should be good at XC for these reasons.

  5. ruffles31 11/04/2009 at 10:52 AM #

    Congrats to the Men’s Cross Country team.

    So, since Fowler has been our AD, we now have won ACC titles in the following sports:

    Men’s Cross Country
    Women’s Cross Country

    What do those sports have in common? No real facilities upgrades.

    Softball at the time played at Walnut Creek.
    Wrestling is held at Reynolds Coliseum.
    The Cross Country teams run through the woods.

    Furthermore, our 3 national individual titles last year came from:


    What do these have in common? No new facilities for these champions.

    Wrestling – Reynolds Coliseum
    Diving – Kristin Davies practiced at Duke
    Golf – Lonnie Poole Golf Course was not open yet.

    At least the facility’s improvements have helped our overall program.

    So congrats to our athletes who win with hard work and perseverance, even though they don’t have the greatest facilities in the country.

  6. blpack 11/04/2009 at 4:02 PM #

    Thanks Ruffles, I was wondering about that info. We have no real depth to our programs. CC carries us, God bless them, and after that we MAY get some help in a given year or may not. The main 4 sports which people largely pay attention to are struggling mightily. One of the four does have a new coach, but post season play looks to be unlikely for 3 of the 4 with baseball needing a major turn around to avoid the quad wiff.

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