O’Brien Remains Upbeat, Still Confident In Rebuilding Process

Despite back-to-back woodshed-whoopings, not to mention an increasing chorus of fans howling across the Wolfpack Nation for heads to roll on his staff, Tom O’Brien says that he is still confident in the growth process of the Wolfpack program under his leadership and that he does not believe that it is time to write off 2009 as a lost cause.  In an entry on the sports blog of Charlotte.com, scribe Ken Tysiac reports that

“The first year, we finally figured it out,” O’Brien said. “So maybe we can finally figure it out now.”

O’Brien said he still believes in his players, and he remains confident in the rebuilding process he’s using because it worked when he was an assistant at Navy and Virginia, and when he was Boston College’s head coach.

“We’re playing probably younger kids than we ever wanted to be, but that’s a part of life,” O’Brien said. “You just keep your blinders on, keep focused week to week, and you know having been part of it for the fourth time, that it’s going to get better. It may seem like it’s getting worse at a point. But eventually it’s going to be very good.”

Whether those are the words of a steady hand at the tiller or the ones you might hear from someone re-arranging the deck chairs on the Titanic remains to be seen.   With a 3-4 record – and only one win against a Bowl Subdivision opponent – NC State has five games and it needs to win all of them, or perhaps at least four in order to go to any bowl, even those in the lowest tier.  Clemson, Virginia Tech and other ACC opponents await, making that seem unlikely at this point.  The Wolfpack will first enjoy a bye week prior to traveling to Tallahassee to face an equally troubled Florida State team in a battle for the basement of the ACC Atlantic Division – perhaps the worst group in all of the major conferences.

That gives O’Brien and his defensive staff about 10-12 days to figure out how to rebuild a Wolfpack “defense” that is record-setting – in its ineptitude at stopping other teams.  It’s 27th total defense ranking is a mirage built on one good performance in a 7-3 loss against South Carolina and two games against 1-AA competition.  O’Brien cannot focus solely on defense.  His 2009 team ranks 78th in punt defense with an average of 42 net punting yards, and 63rd in kickoff defense, clearly areas that need immediate improvement.  On offense, the one unflappable Russell Wilson has thrown four interceptions in his last three games and would appear to have less mobility — thanks more to coaching than his own ability.

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75 Responses to O’Brien Remains Upbeat, Still Confident In Rebuilding Process

  1. Rick 10/21/2009 at 8:21 AM #

    “He gets this as a mulligan season, but we really need 8+ wins next year, or it’s time to start talking retirement (and to basically throw in the towel for Wolfpack football).”

    From my perspective I do not think it matters if he leaves or not. It seems Wolfpack athletics has a self imposed ceiling that cannot be crossed by anyone. Maybe we can be position ourselves as the “lovable Wolfpack” that are so hapless everyone enjoys pulling for us.

  2. Par Shooter 10/21/2009 at 9:03 AM #

    You guys who think there is even a remote possibility of Archer being fired after this season just aren’t paying attention. How many times does TOB have to say “it isn’t the scheme” or “we’ve got the right coaches” before you get the point? He has made it very clear that Archer is running exactly what TOB wants on D and that he thinks the problem is youth and “not lining up correctly”. Archer isn’t going anywhere. If you need Archer gone in order to support TOB then you may as well start thinking about replacements because Archer is a permanent fixture.

  3. Ed89 10/21/2009 at 9:06 AM #

    BC is about to go to the ACC Championship game for the 3rd year in a row with 2 different ROOKIE Coaches. I’m tired of the “Building a Program” nonsense. When you win, you build a Winning Program. When you DON’T, you become a LOSER. Yes, maybe many of the BC guys were TOB’s players — BUT they’re top defensive player (the true freshman) and their top RB (who killed us) are NOT TOB’s. However, “someone” has been coaching them. On the flip side, our best players are STILL Amato’s recruits – Wilson, Baker, Michael-Cash, Young, Irving, and it goes on. The comment about BC playing the same defense was almost laughable….so what? Alabama and Gardner-Webb probably play the same type of defense, too.

    The Poll is truly very sad. What could have been. We’re 0-3 playing in probably the worst conference division in BCS football. Clemson beat Wake’s and BC’s butt, yet they have a tough road ahead. BC plays at UVa, vs. UNC, and at Maryland. Clemson still plays at Miami, at State (looking easier every day), vs. FSU, and vs. UVa. I’ll give the nod to the Eagles. SAD.

    I think everyone calling for Sid’s head last year and proclaiming TOB to be our Savior will be completely saying the opposite in about 4 months. Even though Sid wasn’t a Marine.

  4. Daily Update 10/21/2009 at 9:18 AM #

    Ed89: TOB is the one who built that program. TOB’s last class (seniors this year) was just ranked 3rd in the conference by the ACCSJ. He may not be successful at NC State, but using the success of BC is actually defending TOB because he has been largely responsible for their success the last 2.5 years.

  5. Ed89 10/21/2009 at 9:22 AM #

    I will concede that and agree partially. I will not go as far as saying I think he would have had the same success during the last 2.5 years if he had been the coach.

  6. whitefang 10/21/2009 at 9:37 AM #

    At a school like NC State with 4 other div 1 schools in the state not to mention the mighty SEC around us, it will take a little longer to build a program than say at Florida or Southern Cal. I seem to remember that their programs are a little better established than ours historically, and neither has been scared by us on the recruiting trail in the last 50 years or so. So comparing Pete Carroll (who once coached at State by the way) and Urban Meyer’s situation with TOB’s isn’t really realistic.
    In any case I am very disappointed with our results this year. I expected better. However I am not ready to deep six a proven coach like TOB at this point.

  7. GAWolf 10/21/2009 at 9:48 AM #

    Anyone know any details about Rashard Smith’s knee? Is it true that it’s been reported that he will not need surgery but rather just rest (for the entire rest of the season) to recuperate? If that’s the case, is there anything else going on there that warrants discussion?

  8. BJD95 10/21/2009 at 9:54 AM #

    Ed, I certainly wouldn’t hold my breath on Lowe. Although I suspect you’re talking about handing out medals for recruiting, not actually doing anything on the court.

    Ask a Georgia Tech fan about whether high recruiting rankings necessarily lead to good basketball. I’m a sports fan, not a recruiting fan.

  9. Daily Update 10/21/2009 at 10:04 AM #

    Ed: TOB went 10-6 in the two years he was in the ACC at BC. They went 6-2 in Matt Ryan’s senior(hardly unexpected) and then 5-3 the following year for a total of 11-5.

    So in the ACC with TOB – 10-6
    In the ACC without TOB – 11-5

    If you factor in the two ACC titles game, then their ACC winning percentage is lower (11-7) than during TOB’s first two years. I realize that isn’t completely fair because it adds two games against VT, but still the results aren’t really that much different.

    In three of the 4 years, BC has gone 5-3 in the ACC. They just happened to be on the right side of a tiebreaker last year where in TOB’s first year they were on the wrong side of the tiebreaker.

    So far:
    -tied for 1st (5-3)
    -2nd (5-2)
    -1st with Matt Ryan as senior (they lucked out againts Clemson and VT with miracle plays by Ryan at the end of games) (6-2)
    -tied for 1st (5-3)

    Again, the results the last 2.5 years for BC aren’t much different than TOB’s two years in the ACC. Don’t buy what the BC fans are selling.

    None of this is guaranteed that he will succeed in turning around our program, but there is nothing at BC so far that proves he was somehow an inadequate coach.

  10. GAWolf 10/21/2009 at 10:12 AM #

    And that brings us back to my biggest concern, and it also brings to mind the old Sesame Street song about one of these kids doing his own thing. There’s one element that is different from BC and here. The Defensive Coordinator. Spaz could have been a big part of TOB’s success there, Archer could be a big part of his lack of success here, or what we’re seeing could be a combination of the two. Either way, the newest formula for TOB isn’t working and while it’s his decision to make a move, as BJD and others have point out if he fails to make that move he must live with the consequences. I fear the consequences because I do think TOB is the right man for the HC job here for the time being. And I fear the consequences because if you go back in time on Archer’s resume as you have on TOB’s, you will not find such a rosy picture with which to argue for hope.

  11. Ed89 10/21/2009 at 10:15 AM #

    I’ll buy all of that. Good stats. I do not think he is an inadequate coach. I just don’t think he’s a great one. He could be a good one, we’ll see. I would love for him to prove me wrong. I think he’s too predictable.

    On the flip side, does Chan Gailey get credit for “building” the program with which Paul Johnson is now having success? Does Mike Shula get the same credit for Nick Saban’s recent success at Alabama? Both Johnson and Saban (I can name others) came in and won with the other coaches’ players. Just wondering.

  12. bradleyb123 10/21/2009 at 10:56 AM #

    Who woulda thought we’d have a better outlook for basketball at this point than football? Go Sid. Keep reelin’ ’em in!!!

  13. Pack1997 10/21/2009 at 10:59 AM #

    You know some people on here really annoy me. Perhaps you forget that it was 3 years ago we were 3-9. Amato left huge holes to fill with few scholarship players left. Most football head coaches need a minimum of 4 years, unless you are traditional power. We are not a traditional power nor were we in decent enough shape to be ahead of that 4 year mark.

    When TOB got here we were bad in all aspects of the game. Now we are bad in only 2 aspects, Special Teams and Defense. Our secondary is decimated and our DT are not as great as we would like to think. The one positive is we are dominating recruiting this year and many of the recruits are on that side of the ball.

    I know we are all desparte to have a winner. Trust me I have been a NCSU fan all my life, and we have never had a winner during that time. With that being said, I do believe we are headed in the right direction and we have a program I am proud of on and off the field. If after TOB’s 5th year I have not seen huge improvements then I will want him gone until them have a little faith.

  14. Ed89 10/21/2009 at 11:10 AM #

    ^^”You know some people on here really annoy me.” I’ll agree with that.

    Just to add, We realistically COULD go 3-9 this year. The easy part of our schedule is over. But, we do have wins over Murray State and Gardner-Webb.

    I like your confidence, and the good thing is that we can go NOWHERE but UP.

  15. Scooter 10/21/2009 at 11:15 AM #

    Its getting harder and harder to make the “rebuilding” or “young” argument in year 3. These are TOB’s players who he recruited for Archer’s system. The biggest problem I’ve seen from Pitt through BC has been the lack of executiion of fundamentals within our secondary. Tackling is terrible. Body positioning is terrible, making the tackling problem even worse. The most depressing part of all is watching the defensive scheme — the soft zone we are playing. Its like we’re playing the prevent defense all game long.

    Between the scheme and the poor tackling, we are letting plays that should result in losses go for 5 yard and 5 yard plays are turning into 20 yard plays.

  16. Wulfpack 10/21/2009 at 11:42 AM #

    We lost to Duke, at home, by a wide margin, this year.

    ‘Nuff said.

  17. Sam92 10/21/2009 at 12:48 PM #

    yes, it’s terrible. but i just *have* to give TOB another year. the third year is when things should begin to improve, and we are worse. but he’s got to get one more year – if things don’t improve next year, i will want him gone.

    the bigger problem, however, is that firing TOB is completely hopeless while Lee Fowler remains AD. Fowler needs to go yesterday, no matter what else happens, but who here has confidence that we’ll do better than TOB while Fowler is AD?

  18. chickenchan 10/21/2009 at 12:55 PM #

    I think TOB is doing swell.

    Looks like they moved our game to 3:30 Saturday…

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  19. PoppaJohn 10/21/2009 at 1:00 PM #

    Hey you Redskins / Wolfpack fans – I’ll trade you. I’m a Wolfpack / Raiders fan. What a nightmare! The worst franchise ever. Al Davis must be 120 years old, when will he go away???

    Totally agree with the ‘patience’ group. TOB’s built programs before, he can do it again. We’ve had great players before, we’ll get more. We just don’t have enough right now. I still think he’s the right guy, but we’d need David Copperfield to make anything out of this season. It’s just going to take more time.

    I think we just need to relax and forget football this year, let’s just focus on basketball. Oh wait, that won’t work.

  20. emr62 10/21/2009 at 1:46 PM #

    I’m sure no one is more disappointed than TOB this year.
    I still feel like this team was over hyped based on the fact we lost our
    best defensive player in Nate Irving. NC State is need of a Running Back(s). Honestly TA McClendon is the last decent RB we had and that has been many years ago now. Eugene and Baker have not been productive.. I guess you could blame that on the offensive line? I don’t know… but neither one of them improved since their Freshman year. There is not going to be a streak of wins this year. I predict NC State wins one more game this year… against Maryland.

  21. emr62 10/21/2009 at 1:48 PM #

    NC State: Please find some running backs. There has to be some running backs out there. Year after year, we have no running game.

  22. Rick 10/21/2009 at 2:00 PM #

    “Amato left huge holes to fill with few scholarship players left.”

    More holes than Duke who whomped us handily?

    I see more problems than talent on the field.

  23. bradleyb123 10/21/2009 at 2:03 PM #

    Are you kidding? Toney Baker has been great when we actually USED him! He’s getting stronger each game.

    And on defense, we lost THREE projected starters before the season even started. We’ve had other starters miss games since then due to injury, and now another is out for the year. We have too much youth on defense.

    Anybody remember how people used to question, not whether or not we could beat a D-1 team, but if we could even SCORE on one? Things were pretty bad when TOB took over. It takes TIME to build up quality depth in football. TOB can get us there. I can’t believe some are already questioning him. We really are a fickle, crazy, impatient fanbase!

  24. bradleyb123 10/21/2009 at 2:12 PM #

    People keep talking about Duke like they’re something great. Here’s what happened. Our offense WHOMPED them, too. We moved the ball more easily on them than they did us in that first half (we had fewer third downs). Had our weak defense just gotten a couple of stops on their many third downs, it could have easily been 21-10 State at halftime.

    The Duke game was pretty evenly played for the most part (thanks to our weak defense). And in the second half, the defense STOPPED Duke when it had to — TWICE. But then special teams made two unforced mistakes that gave Duke 14 points anyway (again, after their offense was STOPPED), and the game.

    I contend that had that punt bounced in the other direction, we would have had possession and probably found a way to score and tie the game. The bad bounces and bad luck made the wheels come off. But that was still a game we could have and maybe should have won. Our punts could just as easily have bounced off one of THEIR players and an opposite result.

    I’m not excusing our bad play on defense, but Duke is absolutely NOT 21 points better than State. Sometimes the wheels come off on fluke plays that change the complexion of the game. Due to that lopsided score, people actually forget that our defense DID find a way to stop Duke’s offense when it had to. Special teams just blew it then. We just self-imploded in the fourth quarter.

  25. T-FIC 10/21/2009 at 3:54 PM #

    Everyone here keeps saying how embarassing it was to lose to Duke. I believe you will see that we were just the first casualty of an improving Duke team that will give the remaining teams on their schedule quite a battle and will win a few of those. Although our defense is not nearly up to par, Duke had an offense that was playing very well to put up that many points against any team. Basically we lost to a much improved Duke team and two teams that may win the Atlantic Division. Not as bad when you put it that way…

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