Want to See State-Wake Play Tonight? You Better Go To The RBC

While I am perfectly aware of the state of NC State basketball, I have to admit that I am quite surprised that a Big Four hoops matchup is not being televised in North Carolina.  That’s right, no TV coverage for tonight’s Wake Forest – NC State game, unless you count sitting in front of your computer and watching the game on ACC Select as “television.”  I don’t, and I have an Internet connection and computer equipment as good as anyone out there.

Joe Ovies of 850 The Buzz put it best when he says:

“Lost in all the hype for tonight’s Duke-UNC game — NC State hosts Wake Forest. Apparently the contest is by invitation only, with no television for the 7pm tip-off. The only way to see this game is if you have tickets, or settling in front of your computer and use “ACC Select”. It’s easy to chalk this aberration up to the Wolfpack sucking and the Demon Deacons not really having any fans outside of Winston-Salem, but there is a larger issue at work. The ACC has allowed the overarching basketball history of the conference to be pigeon-holed.

“The importance of the Duke and North Carolina on a national level can not be denied, but let’s stop acting like it’s the only rivalry in the ACC. Why the conference doesn’t use the final weekend of conference play to promote the other intriguing rivalries is mind boggling. Never mind that NC State and Wake Forest have been playing since 1910, these teams are a huge part of the “Big Four” mystic and helped build the conference into a phenomenon. And it’s not like these teams don’t have history. Do I have to remind everyone about Julius Hodge and Chris Paul? Da Jules scoffs at bloody noses.”

I take this snub as yet another sign of how far NC State hoops has fallen and also how the ACC has essentially become a two-team league in hoops.  Someone actually went so far as to post a thread on Pack Pride suggesting that the ten teams in the ACC not named “Duke” or “UNC” consider leaving the ACC and leaving the fifty-five year old conference to the only two teams that matter to Conference Headquarters.  I have to admit that there are times when I feel the same way — it seems that there are two Chiefs and ten Indians in the ACC and little else.

Consider also the title of the HBO documentary: “The Battle For Tobacco Road” — a documentary that focuses exclusively on the Duke-UNC rivalry.  I’m not going to be ignorant and say that the Battle of the Blues is not a huge rivalry or that State and Wake are consistently on par with the two schools, but the fact is that Tobacco Road starts in Raleigh, travels through Durham and Chapel Hill and ends in Winston-Salem.  In other words, State and Wake Forest are as much citizens of Tobacco Road as Duke and UNC ever were, thank you very much.  Any look at a “battle” involving this mythical road simply must include State and Wake or it is bogus and inaccurate.

Still, it is what it is and the only thing that NC State can do is exactly what Wake Forest is doing: step up, get better and kick some Tar Heel and Blue Devil ass long enough that the national press has to admit that there are more than two teams in the twelve team ACC.

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96 Responses to Want to See State-Wake Play Tonight? You Better Go To The RBC

  1. Rick 02/11/2009 at 1:56 PM #

    IMO they are doing us a service by not showing it.

    One of three things will happen
    1) We will get blow out
    2) We will get hot shooting, build a big lead and then lose it in an unimaginably painful way
    3) We will get blown out

  2. VaWolf82 02/11/2009 at 1:57 PM #

    I’ll be stuck at home with the radio, trying to pass a kidney stone.

    This is ripe for all sorts of analogies and comparisons. But having suffered through an episode myself, I will let them all pass and hope that you got better pain medicine than I was given.

  3. LRM 02/11/2009 at 1:59 PM #


    I’m not sure if you’re being metaphorical or not. But if you’re actually choosing to listen to this game, I can only assume it’s because you’re trying to deflect the pain of an actual kidney stone…luckily, it should work.

  4. wufpup76 02/11/2009 at 2:03 PM #

    ^Wulf, the ESPNU game tonight is actually GT-VaTech

    Slightly better than GT-UVa 😉

  5. Alpha Wolf 02/11/2009 at 2:21 PM #

    I was looking forward to attending this game tonight, but instead I’ll be stuck at home with the radio, trying to pass a kidney stone.

    A former girlfriend confided in me once that her kidney stones hurt worse than childbirth….

    But you can dissolve the stone by holding up the radio to the relevant kidney. Every time Gary Hahn says “bonusphere” or “turnover Gonzalez” the stone will break up just a little.

  6. 66pack 02/11/2009 at 2:22 PM #

    the reason we are not on tv is we suck and not enough people will be watching as to make it attractive for advertisers.Even SHAMWOW declined.

  7. LKNpackfan 02/11/2009 at 2:23 PM #

    I think we understand each other. Raycom can only broadcast if an affiliate picks up its product, which typically is CBS (WRAL in the triangle, WBTV in charlotte). CBS doesn’t do Wednesday night basketball, so other affiliates can option for it (like WJZY/”theCW” in charlotte). The backup affiliate is also passing on NCSU-WFU, opting instead to show the new 90210.

    Edit: Scratch that. The raycom game IS the unc/duke game, so we’re just the odd man out tonight.

  8. ChiefJoJo 02/11/2009 at 2:25 PM #

    Probably for the best we can’t watch.

    Has the Duke-Carolina rivalry gotten out of hand? Yes. Is it any more so than tOSU v Michigan or Yankees v Red Sox? No, it just stings a little bit being a part of Tobacco Road without being a part of it’s most hyped rivalry. Thanks ESPN (HYPE)!

  9. Rochester 02/11/2009 at 2:26 PM #

    I haven’t seen anything about this here the last two days, so forgive me if this has been discussed already …

    From the N&O

    Degand, Ferguson uncertain for Wake
    Submitted by kentysiac on 02/09/2009 – 11:44
    Tags: ACC Now | N.C. State | Sidney Lowe

    N.C. State coach Sidney Lowe said Monday morning that he hasn’t decided whether junior guards Farnold Degand and Trevor Ferguson will play Wednesday against Wake Forest.

    Degand and Ferguson missed Sunday’s 91-87 overtime loss at Virginia Tech for violating team academic policy.

    “I haven’t decided yet (whether they will play),” Lowe said during the ACC coaches’ teleconference. “It’s something I’ve got to take a look at. First and foremost, those guys, everybody needs to hold up their end of the bargain, academically and rule wise, everything. And playing on the floor. And we’ll have to see.”

    Ferguson is averaging 5.8 points and Degand 4.9 points per game.

    If we play without Degand tonight I think our chances of pulling off the upset drop from about 11 percent down to about 1 percent. Our chances of breaking the team record for turnovers, however, climbs quite a bit.

  10. LRM 02/11/2009 at 2:30 PM #

    Ah, the days when the radio wasn’t 30 seconds ahead of the TV.

    Gary: “Fells with the dribble drive from the left elbow. The whistle is blown — I believe there has been a foul called on Smith.”

    Tony: “Actually, that was Gonzalez and he just dribbled it off his knee out of bounds.”

    Gary: “So Wake will have the ball, going right to left as you look at your radio dial.”

  11. whitefang 02/11/2009 at 2:38 PM #

    Not showing it is a good thing. If they don’t show it, I don’t have to feel guilty for not watching it. Nor do i have to read on SFN somebody saying those of us who choose not to watch this trainwreck of a basketball program are somehow not real State fans. The fact that I would not watch this even if it was on TV means I AM a State fan. If I didn’t care about State I would not be in pain watching what we have become. I would watch for the entertaiment value of watching how we would manage to screw up this time. Like Gilligan’s Island. How is Gilligan going to screw up this week? Yeah that’s NC State basketball these days.

  12. Trip 02/11/2009 at 2:39 PM #

    I’ll be listening to the game, GARY HAHN STYLE.

    Off-topic, but WRAL has released a gallery of “Our Lens on Jon Scheyer”… aka “Scheyer Faces”… half the pictures in the album have him with his mouth gaping open in that all-too-familiar pose.


  13. levelsixtyfour 02/11/2009 at 2:43 PM #

    “Like Gilligan’s Island.”

    More like Gilligan’s Island without Ginger and Mary Ann.

  14. Wulfpack 02/11/2009 at 2:46 PM #

    Thanks Wufpup. My bad, yea, that’s a much better game.

    Anyways, let’s go beat the Deacs!

  15. 66pack 02/11/2009 at 2:49 PM #

    with fewer dollars for advertising,on what game would you spent your money?

  16. Noah 02/11/2009 at 2:54 PM #

    I was looking forward to attending this game tonight, but instead I’ll be stuck at home with the radio, trying to pass a kidney stone.

    On the dorsal horn of your spinal cord, you have a gating mechanism for pain. You will always focus on the thing that causes you the most pain. If you have a migraine AND a broken foot, you’ll only be able to really focus on the worst thing.

    So, actually your kidney stone might be a good thing. It all depends on where your heart lies in regards to basketball.

  17. BJD95 02/11/2009 at 2:55 PM #

    When I picked up my pain meds at Walgreens at 2 am, I noticed that the Snuggy and ShamWow! have made into stores. They are too big for us now.

    The percocet held up for most of the day, but pain now breaking through. Maybe my primary physician will hook me up with something stronger.

    But I’ll watch/listen to damned near anything to take my mind off this damned stone. Maybe Fowler acquired a voodoo doll for me…

  18. whitefang 02/11/2009 at 2:58 PM #

    BJD95, You know how the bottle says, “Do Not Drink Alcohol With This Medication”? The FDA is considering adding, “Unless Watching or Listening To NC State Basketball.”

  19. BJD95 02/11/2009 at 3:01 PM #

    Noah is strongly tempting me to break my foot. But when I’ve had migraines, both my stomach and head hurt like hell. So I am skeptical of his medical advice.

    My wife has tried me to do those “focus” tricks from Lamaze, maybe I can do that with the game tonight.

  20. 66pack 02/11/2009 at 3:04 PM #

    When TV picks GT-VT over the #7 team and NCSU I believe we have arrived at the lowest point in our BB HISTORY.

  21. WV Wolf 02/11/2009 at 3:04 PM #

    BJD95, you have my deepest sympathies. I had a kidney stone last year and the pain of Wolfpack basketball has never left me curled up in the fetal position.

    I took a quick look through the ACC basketball schedules and the following ACC games also aren’t/weren’t televised:
    Miami/FSU on Jan 21 (ACC Select)
    GT/Wake on Feb 18 (ACC Select)
    Miami/GT on Mar 4 (no TV listed)

    So Georgia Tech, Miami and Wake all have 2 ACC games that aren’t televised, State and FSU have 1.

  22. thekind 02/11/2009 at 3:09 PM #

    Hey guys,
    Look at the bright side, at least we dont have to watch them squirrels stink it up again on TV.

    Brainy Smurf Fowler must be proud of the APATHY has has created in our program.

  23. Scooter 02/11/2009 at 3:12 PM #

    John Swofford laughes at your petty “NC State vs. Wake Forest” all the way to the bank from Greensboro. John Swofford can only think of TWO teams that play basketball in North Carolina!

    Good luck with the stones BJD95.

  24. Rochester 02/11/2009 at 3:15 PM #

    This game was left off the schedule for TV before the season started, so it’s not a reaction to us sucking. At least not this year. Could be a carryover from our suckfest last year.

  25. 66pack 02/11/2009 at 3:18 PM #

    Everyone but hopeful NCSU fans knew our BB team would be having another suckfest.

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