Winner of November’s Cranial Rectitus Award: Deems May

head_up_ass.jpgAfter Saturday’s 41-10 loss to NC State, Deems May had this to say on Taylor Zarzour’s WPTF post-game call-in show:

‘They won’t even be in our league soon.  […] With the way our recruiting is going we’ll be challenging teams like Viriginia Tech for the ACC Title. […] State College will be lucky to get a win against us every four or five years…’ (paraphrased, but accurate as confirmed by others.)

In life, it’s said that timing is everything.  After your ass has just been handed to you by your in-state rival, is that a good time to fling insults and talk about how far ahead your team is?  I’ll go with “Probably Not” for $1000, Alex.

May, who played QB and TE for the Tar Heels from 1987-1991, during the Sheridan era at NC State, won once in four tries against NC State, and was on the field for the 1988 48-3 loss to the Pack, and then again for the 1989 40-6 shellacking that the Wolfpack handed the Tar Heels on a gorgeous fall day in Carter-Finley Stadium.  Moreover, in their last seven meetings against UNC, NC State leads the series 4-3.  They are on a two game roll against the Tar Heels and Saturday’s result was the second largest of victory by the Wolfpack over the Hapless Heels.

deemsmayia9.jpgRegarding recruiting, May of all people should know better: he was a much-heralded Parade All-American coming out of high school, but was a bust under center in college.  By the time he was done in Chapel Hill, he was a tight end.  Sure, May did have an eight year NFL career, mostly as a reserve: he scored one TD over 26 receptions in eight years in the league. Not exactly what I would call a stellar career in either league, and certainly not the expected result if all of the high school hype surrounding him was to be believed.

In fact, you could compare the career of Deems May to a current QB on the UNC roster, Mike Paulus.  Paulus was another highly ranked recruit coming into Chapel Hill, and by now it was thought he would be running the Tar Heel show.  It hasn’t happened and when he does play, Paulus is spotty, at best.  Compare and contrast that to a three-star QB from Athens, Alabama that came to NC State because his in-state schools didn’t want to give him a shot under center and then-Wolfpack-coach Mike O’Cain said that he’d get his chance if he wore red and white.  What do you bet that by the end of his true freshman season that Alabama or Auburn (not to mention UNC) wished that they had given a grant-in-aid to Philip Rivers as a QB recruit?

Bottom line is that while recruiting service rankings matter to a certain degree, they don’t truly forecast the development of an athlete once they get to the college level.  That’s up to the athletes and their coaches.  For every five-star success, there’s another five-star bust…and sometimes, lightly regarded recruits set NCAA records and end up getting drafted #3, going to the Pro Bowl and leading the NFL statistically once they get to the pros.  In other words, recruiting rankings are a crap shoot and Deems May knows this, even if he won’t say so.

Deems May might be a proud UNC alumnus, but he probably should have heeded this simple maxim:

“Better to keep your mouth closed and be thought a fool than to open it and remove all doubt”

and kept his arrogance to himself, but he didn’t.  Therefore, Deems May wins the SFN Cranial Rectitus Award for the Month of November.  Congrats, Deems — you finally won something!

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41 Responses to Winner of November’s Cranial Rectitus Award: Deems May

  1. #44 17 24 11/24/2008 at 1:50 PM #

    hilarious…and so true.

  2. for2n8son 11/24/2008 at 1:51 PM #

    Just one more reason why I know God will never hold anything I feel or say about UNC against me.

  3. Sam92 11/24/2008 at 1:55 PM #

    well, we do have reason to feel good after saturday, but tom o’brien may very well get his chance to do more with less – scout.com has our incoming class 11th in the acc and 60th in the nation, unc is 2nd and 13th, respectively

    http://recruiting.scout.com/a.z?s=73&p=9&c=14&view=1&yr=2009

  4. Alpha Wolf 11/24/2008 at 1:58 PM #

    ^ Not all is said and done, Sam. There’s a long time between now and February and a lot can and will happen before National Signing Day.

    Besides, for all of the success that O’Brien had at BC, do you know that he never once had a top 25 recruiting class?

  5. skitchwolf 11/24/2008 at 1:59 PM #

    The strange thing to me about this is that Deems May was interviewed after last year’s UNX game and was very forthright about how badly State had beaten the Heels even though it was not reflected in the score. He even mentioned the fact that UNX had gotten away with roughing the kicker. He was very complimentary of State’s effort and readily acknowledged UNX’s ineptitude. Maybe his bitterness this year was the result of too-high expectations and all the hype surrounding this year’s Heels. I believe that the Carolina “faithful” really believed that Butch had already produced a silk purse from last year’s sow’s ear. The last two weeks has obviously disabused them of such notions. (Even though they won’t admit it.) Methinks Butch should have scooted to Knoxville at mid-season – his stock is dropping like Citibank about now.

  6. Girlfriend in a Coma 11/24/2008 at 2:04 PM #

    “Saturday’s result was the second largest of victory by the Wolfpack over the Hapless Heels.”

    I don’t think that’s true. Deems was also part of the 48-3 game in 1988 in Kenan.

  7. old13 11/24/2008 at 2:14 PM #

    Talent, although vital to winning programs, carries a team only so far IMO. Football is largely a matter of mental attitude (e.g., toughness and coaching), which showed well by the Pack on Saturday. Plus TOB & Co. have long had a reputation for finding hidden talent so I don’t put alot of stock in the number of stars our recruits have – they don’t reflect character anyway. Having said that, though, it would be nice to get a few of the top recruits just to jack up the recruiting rating and the perception of the program.

  8. PackerInRussia 11/24/2008 at 2:19 PM #

    The other major flaw in Mr. May’s comment is that UNC’s recruiting has been better than State’s for the past several years, so technically they should already be where he says they will be in the future. Yet, State was still able to whoop them badly despite so-called superior recruiting. It also completely forgets last year’s recruiting class (which many people seem to do). Watching one’s team get beat upside the head does tend to make you say silly things, though. Poor guy.

  9. packpowerfan 11/24/2008 at 2:39 PM #

    UNX can say what they want about next years’ class, because Butch will play those incoming freshman, more than likely. However, we had a pretty nice recruiting class coming in this year, and they’ve been redshirted, practicing and watching…getting ready for next year. I don’t like to brag or talk a lot of trash…but honestly the flux of talent INto the program is pretty high right now. We lose Brown, but hopefully we get Baker back, with Eugene and Underwood, not to mention Barnes was the most sought after recruit in the state, was he not? I think across the board we’re only losing a small handful of starting seniors. IMO, seniors like Robbie Leonard will be missed (he’s done an exceptional job as a walk-on converted CB/S/TE/QB/K/LMNOP). However, I think we stand more of a chance for an UPSWING next year. Not to mention our coach has beating the ‘holes in his blood.

  10. Alpha Wolf 11/24/2008 at 2:40 PM #

    “Saturday’s result was the second largest of victory by the Wolfpack over the Hapless Heels.”

    I don’t think that’s true. Deems was also part of the 48-3 game in 1988 in Kenan.

    It’s hard to believe I forgot that final, because I was there that day, and for the 1989 game too. Age will do that to you.

  11. Wolf Dog 11/24/2008 at 2:41 PM #

    Recruiting is not over and the current Unx rating is being helped by two 4 star recruits that DNQ last year went to prep school and rentering this year. With Non-Qualifiers Unx had a very small class last year so they NEED a big year allot worse than we do. Not hard to see they hurting for lineman. Butch got lot of athletes but below par on the line. Butch looking jc recruits also. Plus ratings never show the kids that don’t qualify. Butch looking style, we looking guys that can play football. We just went down Butch’s road.

    As far as nx year, we get them at home and we have most all of our major contributors back except Brown on offense. I believe Holmes and JC Neal on defense. We in good shape if everyone comes back. Wilson don’t go pro in baseball. Cash and Irving don’t opt for the draft. We have red shirted over half the freshmen class. So most entering freshman not looking at allot of PT anyway so we can recruit kids that want to redshirt and we can recruit a class (that qualifies, stays, and plays) that we can develop. Unx promising playing time right away. Part of chemistry problems they have over there currently.

    We looking good next year so we most likely go three in a row against UNX.

  12. Scooter 11/24/2008 at 2:43 PM #

    It would be prudent to keep in mind the top calibre recruiting classes that Amato brought in that have left us next to last in the ACC and dead last in our division. The spin machine works, but only for so long.

    I hope that UNC learns the way we have that a team not located in the state of Florida can’t play state-of-Florida-style football.

  13. Packman02 11/24/2008 at 2:51 PM #

    Interestingly enough, UNC’s recruiting haul for this year – stellar as it may be – includes only 2 offensive linemen. The class is loaded defensively but has a very noticable deficiency in this area. Sorry if this has already been pointed, but it is worth watching – we’ve all seen how this movie ends.

  14. levelsixtyfour 11/24/2008 at 2:52 PM #

    In all fairness, you neglected to note May’s critically acclaimed stint on The Addam’s Family when listing his accomplishments. Credit where credit is due.

  15. primacyone 11/24/2008 at 2:58 PM #
  16. SuperStuff 11/24/2008 at 3:01 PM #

    I agree. I don’t think it’s a stretch to think we can beat the crap out of UNC-CH next year when all our talent be coming back except for Andre Brown and all those redshirt freshmen ready to play.

    I think we’re losing some recruits to UNC-CH because of the promises to play early. I don’t think TOB makes promises to recruits. He expects you to come in and work as hard as you can to earn playing time.

  17. Packman02 11/24/2008 at 3:21 PM #

    Thanks for the Bob Lee link, primacy…he pretty much nailed it, IMO,

  18. Clarksa 11/24/2008 at 3:54 PM #

    I caught the end of the Deems May/Taylor Zarzour UNC-CH call in show after the game on Saturday…obviously a NC State fan slipped through the screening process and basically said that UNC-CH was lucky to have 7 wins and Deemsy got a little upset…he must have said “we-re 7-4, you’re 5-6” and “we’re going to a better bowl” 6-7 times before he shut up…props to the caller for getting under his skin like that…I enjoyed listening.

  19. Alpha Wolf 11/24/2008 at 3:55 PM #

    In all fairness, you neglected to note May’s critically acclaimed stint on The Addam’s Family when listing his accomplishments. Credit where credit is due.

    True dat. Like Brian Bosworth, Deems turned a stellar NFL career into a fine acting job:

    Deems May as Lurch

    Being a man of multiple talents, he also acts like he is a basketball coach during the football offseason

    Deems May as Coach Doh

  20. newt 11/24/2008 at 4:09 PM #

    Recruiting rankings matter in basketball.

    They don’t mean much in football. Football is more about hard work and coaching.

    The question is only if the coach is getting the players he wants.

    One of the most important success factors for a football player is keeping him in the program for 5 years.

  21. choppack1 11/24/2008 at 4:15 PM #

    My first exposure to Deems May on the radio was after the State-UNC game in 2004 – the infamous game where the last second TD was taken off the board.

    He was enjoying the heck out of it – and it drove me crazy. He was saying that this was the best possible way to beat your rival because it tore their heart out.

    It takes a certain perspective to think that way – some may call it sociopathic. Me, I’d rather win like we won Saturday because their is no doubt who the better
    team is. It didn’t come down to a blown call or a kicker or receiver who’ll feel like crap for a week to a year, to a lifetime. Not Deems, he’d rather the loss be
    as painful as possible. I can appreciate that. Of course, I’ve tried to suppress the dark urges in me to kick someone while they are down or even gloat too much in the win. I know part of the fun of sports is the needling, the give and take of “My team is better”.

    In a sense, I owe Deems a debt of gratitude. He helped me realize just how empty that mindset is. Of course, I’m still growing as a fan, and as a person – and I’ve got a long way to go before I could honestly call myself “a good fan” in the heat of a moment at the game. But see, I know I’m wrong to think and act that way. I wonder if Deems has thought about it. That this comes after a game where there was no heartbreak or sudden reverse of fortune says a lot about his mindset. I mean, it’s easy to deal w/ that first loss – and be magnanimous after you’ve won several in a row.

    Interestingly enough, when it started getting out of hand, one Jeff Bostic was basically saying the same thing about the recruiting rankings. It was as if someone was pissing on his parade.

  22. SEAT.5.F.2 11/24/2008 at 4:42 PM #

    That Bobleesays was side splitting…”We never questioned what coach Davis IS….just the price of his service”
    Very clever.

    Recruiting is a pretty weak argument. I try not to tell folks that our basketball team is looking sweet because Lowe is shooting for the stars, instead I’m trying to figure out why Costner, McCauley, Fells and Horner have the exact same game as when Lowe took over.

  23. Wolf74 11/24/2008 at 4:52 PM #

    I’ve always said UNC-Ch should be known as “The Graveyard of Quarterbacks”. Just look how many highly regarded QBs have gone through there to be a bust when compared to their hype. Anyway, don’t listen to a former QB from there as it was their bad judgement in signing with them that got them into the mess to begin with.

  24. choppack1 11/24/2008 at 5:29 PM #

    Seat 5F2 – I agree w/ you about recruiting. Great recruiting classes are a lot of fun to chirp about, and it’s certainly more fun to have them than not. However, it’s all about execution on game day.

    I think most objective UNC fans are bothered by Butch’s performance his first 2 times in this rivalry, just as many of us Pack fans are concerned about Butch’s ability to recruit.

    One the questions that will forever be unanswered is how would Dick Sheridan have done against Mack Brown’s best UNC teams. That could have given us a preview of what could happen when/if both of these coaches hang around for a while. (That said, I think that TOB has much more experience recruiting D-1 talent and competing against others doing the same than Sheridan did.)

  25. redfred2 11/24/2008 at 6:13 PM #

    “Recruiting is a pretty weak argument. I try not to tell folks that our basketball team is looking sweet because Lowe is shooting for the stars, instead I’m trying to figure out why Costner, McCauley, Fells and Horner have the exact same game as when Lowe took over.”

    Seat5f2, How long have you been a Wolfpack fan, would be two years maybe? Because if it has been any longer, then I’m guessing you’re yearning for a coach that DOES NOT “shoot for the stars”, and a coach who has players who “have the same game”, if not noticably LESS game, as their Wolfpack careers wound down. Because that is exactly what we had in Raleigh before Lowe arrived.

    Admittedly, I would lay the blame for last season’s fiasco evenly at both the coach’s and some of the player’s feet. As a matter fact you even mentioned every player I’m talking about in your own post. I don’t know if you’ve been paying attention, but those same players have been playing at least a little differently in this still, VERY EARLY season.

    I’m looking at it differently anyway, I’ve just about written those players off, I’m much more interested in evaluating what happens with the players who came into the program AFTER those players that you mentioned did.

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