Degand working his way back

NC State fans have learned the hard way since our amazing run of fantastic point guards ended 17 years ago with the graduation of Chris Corchiani that there is no substitute for a talented point guard providing key leadership for a college basketball program.

We recently discussed the current composition of the Wolfpack’s roster at point guard in this fantastic entry that is worth reading if you haven’t already seen it.

As you painfully recall, NC State’s starting point guard, Farnold Degand, tore his ACL last year during a win over Cincinnati in 10th game of the season. Although the Wolfpack definitely had some struggles prior to Degand’s injury, it is impossible to argue that both Degand and the Wolfpack were creating positive momentum and developing nicely when he was injured. At the time of the injury, Degand’s production was trending upward and he was averaging almost 7.0 points, 3.2 rebounds and 28.6 minutes per game while leading the team in assists (2.9 per game) and three-point shooting (.500, 8-16). Defensively, the quickness he possessed in his 6’4 frame proved to be much more valuable than anyone realized until Marques Johnson and Javi Gonzalez attempted to replace Degand after the injury.

Although State was only 7-3, the Pack had picked-up some key wins against South Carolina, an under-rated Rider team, Cincinnati, Villanova and on the road at Seton Hall to produce a strong RPI and be sitting in a strong position ‘if the NCAA Tournament were to start’ at that time.

WRAL recently focused on the positive progress being made in Degand’s rehabilitation that can be seen in this story on their website. An extended interview with Degand can be seen by clicking here.

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26 Responses to Degand working his way back

  1. Clarksa 08/05/2008 at 12:18 PM #

    “NC State fans have learned the hard way since our amazing run of fantastic point guards ended 17 years ago with the graduation of Chris Corchiani that there is no substitute for a talented point guard providing key leadership for a college basketball program.”

    No love for Justin Gainey? To answer my own question, I guess he would fall into the average or good category, and not the fantastic category?

    SFN: Note that the point was that we had an amazing run of decades where the position wasn’t much of a problem. The point was not that we haven’t had ANYONE since that couldn’t play the position.

  2. Noah 08/05/2008 at 12:47 PM #

    The only ACC-caliber PGs I can think of since 1991 have been Justin Gainey during his final year or two and Toney Bethel.

    How pathetic is that?

  3. pakfanistan 08/05/2008 at 12:51 PM #

    Not even Atsur?

    I know it wasn’t his primary role, but I thought he was decent.

  4. packbackr04 08/05/2008 at 1:04 PM #

    If Degand can put up 8 ppg, 3 rpg, and shoot 50% from 3 again this year, it will be a tremendous help for this years team. I dont see Marques or javi putting up those kind of numbers this year… one of my main cocnerns (other than Degands ability to maintain his quickness) is his free thro shooting. i hope that has improved this offseason.

  5. packalum44 08/05/2008 at 1:33 PM #

    In related B-Ball news, Garrius Adams was offered a scholarship according to Scout and there is an article on Keith Dewitt by Rivals. Apparently Dewitt was committed to West VA and backed off. Last time I checked, Bob H. might be the best recruiter in B-Ball. Who else could have scored a #1 recruiting class to K-State? Seems like Coach Lowe is waiting to hear about Favors before extending an offer to Dewitt. Also would make sense if the staff expects John Wall to go elsewhere, hence the offer to Adams.

    “It would be tough to turn down NC State. They have been my dream school. They already are No. 1 for me. If they tell me that I can come in and play right away, not necessarily getting a starting spot, it would be hard to turn them down.”

    NC State went to see Dewitt in an open gym setting the last three days of the July evaluation period at Charis Prep. Strickland and West Virginia coach Bob Huggins were the only two coaches in the gym July 29, which made an impact on Dewitt.

  6. Noah 08/05/2008 at 1:41 PM #

    Yeah, Atsur belongs on that list. Sorry about that.

  7. happypackdad 08/05/2008 at 2:36 PM #



    very nice class

  8. phillypacker 08/05/2008 at 3:18 PM #

    So is tristan spurlock not interested in state? Why not offer him? Are we loaded at 3?

  9. DAMangum 08/05/2008 at 3:18 PM #

    If Degand is able to play without any set backs with Javi as the main back up our PG play should be solid. Javi showed he has talent but just got nervous at times, which should be expected from a true freshman. Mays could step in and contribute as well, but I see him as more of a two guard and I do not really want another true freshman trying to break a full court press against Carowina and their NBA players.

  10. gopack17 08/05/2008 at 3:26 PM #

    I don’t know if any of you have seen Garrius Adams play, but I just graduated from Middle Creek (where he goes) and he’s sick.
    You’re gonna like watchin him, there’s a good highlight vid on YouTube.

  11. happypackdad 08/05/2008 at 3:28 PM #

    Spurlock is UVA or Gtown bound

  12. Bynum State Fan 08/05/2008 at 11:25 PM #

    I know a lot of people will think that a point guard could lead NC state to prominence. But I think the answer lies in a good forward/center that is willing to play scrappy and do some dirty work. Anyone remember Bill Laimbeer, Rick Mahorn, Karl Malone? We once had players like that in Charles Shackleford and Chris Washburn. They simply got the job done at all costs. A dunk here, and elbow there, a rebound here, a court date there. Other ACC players feared those guys, but also respected them. You wouldn’t have a Tywon Lawson driving down the lane if he knew those guys were waiting for him. Hansbrough wouldn’t be so psycho if he had to battle it out with those guys. Paulus? Give me a break. He wouldn’t even show up to the game if he saw a Chris Washburn ready to block him out of the paint. Those type guys, that’s where the answer is. That’s who will lead us to the promised land.

  13. choppack1 08/06/2008 at 7:30 AM #

    Bynum – You don’t need traditional 5s to do that. Laimbeer probably blocked 5 shots in an entire NBA season – Mahorn may have had less blocks. What they did do was defend physically and rebound.

    If NC State is going to even have an inkling of competing against the GaTechs, Clemsons, and UMds of the conference – much less – the UNCs and Dukes – it will be done on the defensive end of the court. And it’s not just enough for your 4 and 5s to be physical – your entire starting 5 needs to be ballbusters.

    After you play a team – they should be spent and bruised up. If I was a coach, I’d want my opponent to dread playing my squad – think of playing Wake Forest in football. Almost every they do is designed to either beat you up, confuse you or frustrate you.

    Hopefully, our staff can create a change in attitude so that each team we play knows that they are getting into a street fight. They may win, but they’ll know they’ve been in a fight.

  14. phillypacker 08/06/2008 at 7:57 AM #

    Good points choppack. I remember that even without much of a big man we were very tough when we played hard nosed defense. I think the model of WF football is a great one. They beat you physically but they aggravate you just as much by forcing you to be merntally focused every play in a way that a lot of other teams do not.

  15. vtpackfan 08/06/2008 at 8:10 AM #

    Elegibilty left @ the wing. (1) TF through ’09. (2) MJ through ’09. (3)Harris ?,(4) CJ ’11, (5) Wood ’12. Adam’s would be deserving of atleast a reserve role at this position as a frosh. Leslie could turn into a wing player the very next year. If it all works out then this position looks well stocked for some time.

    We need perimeter D defenders to be able to recover suffiently after closing out or even (gasp! overplaying the wing!). Atsur was fantastic at it.

    Our main difficulty is having the help D, usually a F/C, giving up a position advantage for rebounding. Hickson would have led the ACC in boards had our team defense not sucked.

  16. happypackdad 08/06/2008 at 8:15 AM #

    BTW, Wall isn’t going to Baylor as expected.

  17. Bynum State Fan 08/06/2008 at 8:18 AM #

    I just get tired of watching Lawson drive right down the middle for a layup when former players used to stop that crap. Like I said, Paulus wouldn’t have even showed up for the game with personele like we used to have. You are right though, it is a guard’s game right now. But, do you think Lawson is looking forward to playing Miami again after what happened? He hasn’t been the same has he? Now I am not advocating injuring someone, but if he is going to be so arrogant as to drive in against 6’10 players, let him know you are 6’10, and he’s 6 foot!!! When Paulus slaps our pg, Costner, you need to slap him back when he is running through the lane next time. Shackleford and Washburn did it, and other players feared those guys. When you were a pg and you knew you were playing State, you knew that you had better transition your game into a perimeter fascet because there was not going to be any dribble penetration against guys who were not scared of jail time, much less laying some cocky pg out.

  18. vtpackfan 08/06/2008 at 8:24 AM #

    So where is Clifton landing? Why athletes like John Wall and Brett Favre f-ing with folks. Yes you are very good, just play somewhere cut out the drama and get a hobby to pass the free time

  19. Rick 08/06/2008 at 9:09 AM #

    “I know a lot of people will think that a point guard could lead NC state to prominence. But I think the answer lies in a good forward/center that is willing to play scrappy and do some dirty work. Anyone remember Bill Laimbeer, Rick Mahorn, Karl Malone? We once had players like that in Charles Shackleford and Chris Washburn”

    THere is so much wrong with this post I will not even bother responding

  20. Bynum State Fan 08/06/2008 at 9:19 AM #

    Well Rick, I was not trying to say that Shack & Wash were as talented as the others I mentioned, but what I was trying to get at is the fact that they had similarities when it comes to how they treat their “territory” on the court. All of the above mentioned would not allow a pesky Paulus or a over-confident Lawson to drive right in, and score at will in their “territory”. I completely understand your position regarding my post, I just wasn’t referring to their similarities in terms of talent alone, but their will to defend their place on the court, and their pride in doing so.

  21. happypackdad 08/06/2008 at 9:30 AM #

    Clifton is going to Baylor

  22. choppack1 08/06/2008 at 10:12 AM #

    Bynum – actually shackleford and washburn were much more talented than Mahorn and Lambeir. Unfortunately, they weren’t nearly as disciplined.

  23. BJD95 08/06/2008 at 10:38 AM #

    From what I remember re Shack and Wash – both guys were maddeningly inconsistent, especially in terms of effort. We did make 2 Elite Eights, but it always seemed like those guys were capable of more than they gave. I certainly wouldn’t characterize either as blue-collar warrior “lunch pail” types down low.

    We did have a few of those in the V era, most notably Chucky Brown and Brian Howard.

  24. choppack1 08/06/2008 at 10:53 AM #

    BJD – they were both absurdly talented. Shack actually may have had more low post ability than Washburn. Washburn was kind of a freak because of his coordination, speed and strength. Shack’s low post game was sick. He really could score w/ his left or right hand – and had an uncanny ability to get angles on a defender to get his finger rolls off.

    If Shack or Washburn had Hansboro’s motor and work ethic, they may not have been mentioned in the same sentence as Thompson, Ford, Laettner, Sampson, Bias or Duncan – but they would have been in the next group…Worthy, Perkins, Grant Hill, Danny Ferry, Buck Williams…etc.

  25. Afterglow 08/06/2008 at 11:36 AM #

    Vtpackfan-Let’s cut the kid a little slack.

    I’m beginning to change my opinion on all things regarding recruits. It seems we all have this insatiable desire to know every move an athlete makes. I will grant you that athletes, upon signing a letter of intent to a big time school, pretty much agree to be under the scrutiny of society’s microscope. For the most part everything they do (negative or positive) essentially will make up (in our eye’s) who they are as a person. Think about a time when you said something that someone miss-communicated. Now have that miss-communication broadcasted to millions of people. Like I said, it comes with the package upon signing a letter of intent. You make your own image. But let’s cut a little slack to kids (children-anyone under the age of 18) who are juniors and haven’t even sniffed the freshly waxed hallways of their senior year. I don’t know where John Wall is going to go and as far as I’m concerned-the reality of it is-is that that’s his business and nobody else’s until he publicly decides.

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