‘Shawty Get Loose’…and don’t come back

The 55-year-old tournament adopted as its theme song this year “Shawty Get Loose” by Lil Mama, a booty-shaking singer of barely discernible talent in tight leather pants.

Why, oh why would the tradition-bound, staid ACC adopt a hootchy song as its theme song?

Mark the calendars, lock up the kids, and throw away conventional wisdom…because StateFansNation is going to quote the insufferable Barry Saunders today without criticizing him despite the manner at which criticism so easily flows.

Saunders surprised even his own family today when he actually got one right today with his article regarding the Raycom’s use of Lil Mama’s “Shawty get loose”.

If you don’t live in the region and therefore had the pleasure of watching the ACC Tournament on ESPN as opposed to Raycom, then you didn’t see the jaw-dropping integration of ‘Shawty get loose’ in Raycom’s television coverage. I attended most of the tournament in person, but during a game that I chose to watch at home in High Definition – see, Raycom, ACC Basketball CAN be televised in HD without breaking some law or breaking your bank account – my wife was walking through the room and asked me what I was watching/listening? Honestly, I couldn’t answer.

But, as the game progressed I had the exact same feeling that Saunders described the next time I heard Mike Hogewood open his mouth:

Few things are funnier or more disturbing, though, than hearing ACC frontman Mike Hogewood say “Shawty Get Loose” when urging fans to buy the song’s ring tones “as heard on BET.”

Lastly, I give Saunders credit for connecting the obvious points to the origin of this misfit marriage – Bob Johnson. Well, that’s at least how I explained this trash to my wife this weekend when she asked what was going on.

An ACC employee said Raycom, not the ACC, was responsible for the telecasts’ music. I was unable to reach anyone at Raycom’s Charlotte office.

Here’s all you need to know, though. The tournament was held at Bobcats Arena, named for and owned by Robert “Bobcat” Johnson. Johnson, you recall, made billions from BET, glorifying the most despicable images of black people.

Under Bobcat, BET reportedly stood for Booties Every Time, and programming consisted mainly of hootchy mamas in thongs and high heels.

Please allow me to take you back to just the seventh entry ever posted on this blog in November of 2004.

Lord have mercy, how could I have forgotten how Fox Sports has chosen to market Atlantic Coast Conference Basketball to the masses? Oh, forgive me….it is not ACC Basketball on Fox…..it is Sunday Night “Hoops” – an appropriate shortcut and slang for the product that Fox tries to package to the rest of the country — “Hoops” as opposed to the artful, tradition-rich game of “Basketball.” At least it is accurate.

If you missed the opening of the 30-minute pregame show, then you missed an “artist” whose mother lost her dictionary and forgot the last name of her baby’s daddy when “Fabolus” performed a rap titled, “Tit 4 Tat.”

“Tit 4 Tat” What the hell is that? and what does it “movin like dis and movin like dat” have to do with Atlantic Coast Conference Basketball?

For the record….I am 33 years old, speak what I consider acceptable English, and can’t friggin stand the continued “thugadization” of ACC Basketball by Fox Sports. I also am employed, don’t have attention deficit disorder and actually have the ability to remember what is marketed to me on television. I can’t imagine that I am that much in the minority of the demographic that both watches ACC Basketball and whom marketers want to reach. Have I gotten so far out of the mainstream that other people of my age and my background like this junk?

My opinion of this kind of crap hasn’t changed over the years. The ‘logic’ of the ACC promoting its product to a market of people that Saunders describes as, “hip-hoppers with pants hanging off their butts and Goths with black fingernails and colored mohawks” is beyond me. I think someone needs to do a little research to figure out their market and to figure out who can afford to pay for the products that are advertised during the games.

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105 Responses to ‘Shawty Get Loose’…and don’t come back

  1. Tar Heel Fan 03/19/2008 at 8:13 AM #

    This is a far cry from the end of the 1989 ACC Tournament when they showed a video montage of the tournament they used Louis Armstrong’s “What a Wonderful World” as the song.

    Don’t ask me why I remember that…I just do.

    Apologies for bringing up the 1989 ACC Tournament considering what happened to NCSU on that Friday.

  2. Ed89 03/19/2008 at 8:25 AM #

    Hmmm…comparing the music of the 70’s with rap??? Yes, the lyrics were less direct, that’s the point. You had to be a little more thought provoking. In addition, the argument against rap – besides the awful lyrics – is that it has NO “musical” or “melodic” qualities. It is not music – it may be some form of poetry since supposedly it rhymes (sometimes), but it is not music. Yes, the Rolling Stones could have said, “Brown Sugar, how come you ____ so good?” but they instead wrote, “how come you dance so good.”
    There is a difference. No need to debate with anyone who thinks rap even remotely compares (quality-wise) to 70’s music.

  3. Noah 03/19/2008 at 8:29 AM #

    Dooood…how come you TASTE so good. That’s waaaay racier.

  4. RAWFS 03/19/2008 at 8:41 AM #

    No need to debate with anyone who thinks rap even remotely compares (quality-wise) to 70’s music.

    You have to qualify that just a little bit. Otherwise you’ll be left defending disco.

    null

  5. Ed89 03/19/2008 at 8:48 AM #

    Oh yeah, I forgot about DISCO!! and the “taste” so good line!! I stand corrected on both accounts!!

  6. tcthdi-tgsf-twhwtnc 03/19/2008 at 10:03 AM #

    Debating good and bad music is useless because it is personal taste. Music should be added to the taboo conversation list along with religion and politics.

  7. peteavio 03/19/2008 at 11:38 AM #

    Disco lyrics are crap but turn them down and listen to the backgrounds musicians…..some pretty complex syncopations and different tempos overlapping. A lot more complex than people think.

    I love the jazz…Noah’s correct you gotta look and look hard, but there’s some great stuff out there. I’ve got a buddy at the library of congress that brings me some pretty obscure stuff everyonce in a while, but with everything going digital, a lot worth listening to will dissapear.

    My once a month pilgrimages to Blues Alley remind me of the level of talent out there.

    Every live Robert Randolph show i go to reminds me that Rock/Gospel/Funk fusion is not dead.

    There is good rap out there (Blackalicious, Busdriver), but 99% of the commercialized stuff out there is crap.

  8. peteavio 03/19/2008 at 11:38 AM #

    Disco lyrics are crap but turn them down and listen to the backgrounds musicians…..some pretty complex syncopations and different tempos overlapping. A lot more complex than people think.

    I love the jazz…Noah’s correct you gotta look and look hard, but there’s some great stuff out there. I’ve got a buddy at the library of congress that brings me some pretty obscure stuff everyonce in a while, but with everything going digital, a lot worth listening to will dissapear.

    My once a month pilgrimages to Blues Alley remind me of the level of talent out there.

    Every live Robert Randolph show i go to reminds me that Rock/Gospel/Funk fusion is not dead.

    There is good rap out there (Blackalicious, Busdriver), but 99% of the commercialized stuff out there is crap.

  9. WolftownVA81 03/19/2008 at 11:58 AM #

    Bottom line – whether you like it or not, the music should overshadow the tournament. I thought it was a huge distraction and I don’t care to see the performers no matter who they are. I tuned in to see baskeball not a concert.

  10. WolftownVA81 03/19/2008 at 11:59 AM #

    ^not overshadow.

  11. BoKnowsNCS71 03/19/2008 at 2:15 PM #

    The music won’t overtake the tournament until the dance team puts stripper poles out there on the boards for their routines.

  12. RAWFS 03/19/2008 at 3:24 PM #

    Bo,

    Look up Houston Rockets cheerleaders on Google.

    with everything going digital, a lot worth listening to will disappear.

    Peteavio – you might be interested in reading this article about the revival of vinyl. It sounds better. That’s an honest to goodness objective fact.

  13. lush 03/19/2008 at 5:14 PM #

    im with b as a fan of hip hop and rap. im willing to bet all of you “experts” have never listened to an album or even an entire song. saying you dont like it is one thing, saying its not music and that it all sounds the same is arrogant and ignorant.

    since it we’re making sweeping generalizations, if all rap is bad, that must mean that all rock is good? that makes you all hypocrites, cause you know damn well there are rock songs that you dont like.

    and lets not even get into the race and cultural aspect, oops… “while the thug rapper usually ends up with a gun in his hand, threatening to bus’ a cap in yo ass, just like all the other low lifes in the hood.” redfred allready got that started.

    exactlty how are you different from the fat chicks at carolina who screamed similar insults to maryland?

  14. RAWFS 03/19/2008 at 6:07 PM #

    I get it — if some folks don’t think that there is a lot musicality to rap then we’re racists.

    Nice try, but sorry, no.

    It’s incredibly ironic that a lot of people here who say they don’t like rap also extol the skills and accomplishments of John Coletrane and Miles Davis. Cipher that one into your calculations and get back to us and tell us again how prejudiced they are.

    What you seem to be missing (from not reading the thread) is that it’s generational and that older folks don’t care for the younger generation’s tastes in popular music. That’s happened before and it will happen again…probably to you.

  15. Noah 03/19/2008 at 7:04 PM #

    Seventy-five percent of hip-hop albums are sold to middle-class white kids from the suburbs.

    Rock, rap, jazz, blues…all “black” music.

    Your tastes and feelings on music are no more an indicator of your feelings about race and culture than your feelings about food.

    (I always laughed when I heard people talk about fried chicken and watermelon as “black” food. Who the hell doesn’t like fried chicken and watermelon??)

  16. b 03/19/2008 at 8:33 PM #

    “Seventy-five percent of hip-hop albums are sold to middle-class white kids from the suburbs.”

    This statement is true of all genres of music because white people are north of 75% of all available customers.

  17. Noah 03/19/2008 at 9:19 PM #

    You think 75 percent of classical and jazz albums are sold to middle-class white kids from the suburbs?

  18. lush 03/20/2008 at 7:37 AM #

    “while the thug rapper usually ends up with a gun in his hand, threatening to bus’ a cap in yo ass, just like all the other low lifes in the hood.”

    “I get it — if some folks don’t think that there is a lot musicality to rap then we’re racists.”

    where do you see any mention of musicality?

  19. Ed89 03/20/2008 at 7:51 AM #

    Lush, saying that rap sux has nothing to do with race — as you said, 75% of the albums are bought by white kids. I’ll go back to the “fact” that musically, it has no value. Yes, lyrically, you may find some nicely written stuff that isn’t full of vulgarity and may have some relevant social meaning. Many of my favorite artists are black — two of my favorite dance songs of all-time are “Superfreak” and “You dropped a bomb on me”. They had musically qualities. Chord progressions, scales, minors, melodic content…are you familiar with any of these? By bringing up race in speaking of rap brings up your own ignorance because rap has been criticized by numerous high profile blacks as well.

  20. Ed89 03/20/2008 at 7:56 AM #

    Sorry, that was Noah with the 75% number, but you get the point. It’s still short for “crap.”

  21. Ed89 03/20/2008 at 8:06 AM #

    Oh yea, and no ALL rock is not good – not even close. Actually, I’m not really a “rock” fan, but I’ll take it over rap. 🙂

  22. Noah 03/20/2008 at 8:55 AM #

    Rap is true outsider art. It requires no skills and no training. I won’t say it requires no “talent,” because obviously there are successful rap artists and unsuccessful ones.

    Outsider art’s value is that it’s raw and human. There’s no pollution in the product from classical training. But it’s limited…because there’s no classical training. While the emotional outpouring of good outsider art can often be extremely powerful, the artist is always hindered by his or her own lack of training.

    A good comparison is punk music. None of those guys could play their instruments or sing. They were f*** ups who were just angry and looking to vent their frustration. So you get this primal wail of discontentment and anarchy and pain.

    There’s value there. But it couldn’t really evolve anywhere. So groups like the Sex Pistols just faded away. They had that one bright flash with their first album and everything else was a shadow.

    The Clash, on the other hand, managed to escape their own limitations. Listen to the first album and you get the primal stuff…but by the time they got to London Calling, they’d gotten their arms around their craft and you get pop sensibilities with “Train in Vain” and reggae with “White Man in Hammersmith.” It stopped being a punk album.

    Punk didn’t have anywhere to go…so it just sort of stopped. It didn’t go away and it became an influence on what came afterwards. Obviously, it’s always a good stopping-off point for pissed off kids who can’t play the guitar. But it can’t really evolve the way jazz and rock and blues did. When punk bands did evolve, they stopped being punk. While New Wave bands can salute their punk forefathers, it ain’t the same thing.

    Rap is sort of the same way. Producers can hide it by stealing something from George Clinton or Sly Stone or Rick James, but rap is always going to be pissed off black kids (just like punk was pissed of white kids) either trying to be political, trying to get laid or trying to get stoned.

    “Guns of Brixton” and “F*ck the Police” are the same song. The people in it are getting stomped by the same people and they’re promising the same retribution. And “God Save The Queen” was every bit as scandalous as Luther Campbell’s stuff…it just happened a decade earlier.

  23. lush 03/20/2008 at 11:50 AM #

    “By bringing up race in speaking of rap brings up your own ignorance because rap has been criticized by numerous high profile blacks as well.”

    I didnt bring up anything. Certain other posters did. I merely pointed out that it is wrong.

    Call me crazy, but I beleive it is innapropriate for a bunch of middle aged white men to make racist comments and generalizations about rap and rap artists, because they dont like listening to it.

  24. Ed89 03/20/2008 at 12:19 PM #

    Call me crazy, but I beleive it is innapropriate for a bunch of middle aged white men to make racist comments and generalizations about rap and rap artists, because they dont like listening to it.

    What is “racist” about saying rap sucks? I just said “musically” it has little value. That cannot be argued. If you want to explain how it does, go ahead. I’ve already explained how it doesn’t. You still don’t get it, and since you actually listen to rap, you probably never will. Also, I’m Asian-American, not white….and I don’t think I’m middle-aged — yet.

  25. Noah 03/20/2008 at 1:44 PM #

    Boy, now THERE’s some crappy music! What the hell is up with japanese music? And Yoko Ono! What’s her problem?

    (ha)

    Saying that you don’t like rap music because black people listen to it would be racist. That’s also a bit of a strawman…because no one on this board has said that.

    Saying that rap music “sucks” or is “vulgar” is simply a matter of individual taste.

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