Dear ‘Jags’, The Feeling is Mutual


The Boston College Eagles are gearing up to play Michigan State today in the Champs Sports Bowl in Orlando..and evidently, the Eagles aren’t very happy to be there. We provide the following from BC’s top blogger, Eagle in Atlanta:

Let me echo what Jags is saying — this is not where we wanted to be, but winning 11 games is still very important. This is also the last BC football game for nine months, so enjoy every moment.

Laugh out loud!! OMG that hurts!!

Dear, Jags/BC…Guess what…the feeling is mutual. Orlando didn’t want you, either. Hell, NOBODY wants you. And for some reason you are never grateful that the conference has put ridiculous rules in place SOLELY to protect you and allow you to annually ruin the financial statements of our valuable bowl partners.

I happen to be extremely close to members of three different bowls in the ACC’s bowl order – and I cannot stress to you how fearful each of the bowls were that they would end up with Boston College coming to their game. It was a doomsday scenario for everyone. The Eagles couldn’t be more toxic in the bowl community.

A more polite way of expressing the concern could be found in a previous 850Theuzz blog entry:

Our committee is leery of the Eagles and we’re not convinced their fans will support this team on a bowl trip to Atlanta. The Chick-fil-A Bowl has a long tradition of sold-out stadiums and an atmosphere that is as loud as any stadium in the country and we’re not sure a pro sports town like Boston can support their team at that level.

Consider the following: as late as the morning of November 17th a very plausible scenario still existed whereby Boston College would have not earned one of the ACC’s bowl bids even after achieving a #2 national ranking in October and finishing the season with a 5-3 conference record.

Had Boston College ultimately lost to Clemson while a two of three teams comprised of NC State, Maryland and Miami become bowl eligible – then BC would have been fighting for the LAST bowl spot in Boise. The Eagles administration and fans were SO rude and so ungrateful during their last appearance in Boise that nothing short of an explosion of epic proportion from John Swofford and the ACC office could have gotten the Eagles an ACC bowl.

Its funny, because the same Eagle fans who don’t support their team while complaining about how they are treated love to boast about the program’s bowl winning streak of seven that ranks as the nations longest. What I don’t hear a lot about is WHY/HOW the Eagles have won seven in a row.

You see, the Eagles fall so far in bowl selection order each year because their weak fan support that they ultimately play a team of significantly lesser stature. For example, this year the Eagles were the ACC’s second place team (won the tougher Atlantic Division) but fell as far as the ACC’s bowl rules would allow into the 4th bowl slot where they will they will play 7-5 Michigan State, the Big ten’s 5th selection.

Gee…wonder how they perform so well in bowls?

Unfortunately for Boston College, this year’s game in wonderful Orlando isn’t going to do much for their future case. After embarassing the league in the ACC Championship game and issuing a video plea for support, the school literally gave away FREE TICKETS to the game to students. In this article from today’s Boston Herald, the BC administration gives us an optimistic projection for their attendance in Orlando:

BC, however, has failed to improve its reputation as a non-traveling school. Each program was allotted 12,000 tickets. Michigan State has sold between 10,000 and 11,000; BC expects to have between 5,000 and 6,000.

What more can BC want? They are playing in friggin ORLANDO against a recognizable Big Ten opponent on a convenient Friday in between Christmas and New Year’s. By the way…it is currently 77 degrees in Orlando, FL and “feels like” 39 degrees in Boston, MA.

What more could you need to support your team?

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60 Responses to Dear ‘Jags’, The Feeling is Mutual

  1. GAWolf 12/28/2007 at 6:26 PM #

    The excuse they use is that it’s a small school with a small alumni base. Can someone find contrasting figures between what Wake took to the ACC championship game and the Orange Bowl last year(and their bowl this year when it goes down) when compared to BC’s the last few years? I think that would pretty much dissolve that “argument.”

  2. Trip 12/28/2007 at 6:33 PM #

    Matt just threw an interception, followed by MSU throwing an inteception. Woohoo.

  3. Lunatic Fringe 12/28/2007 at 7:39 PM #

    I have a link to the press conference (video) of the announcement. Jags makes the comment about the 2:20 mark of the video.


  4. Lunatic Fringe 12/28/2007 at 7:40 PM #

    Correction – 2:10 mark

  5. ncsslim 12/28/2007 at 7:51 PM #

    Boston College looks like total shit. I guess they are at least having fun looking like shit. Maybe they can go back and describe something different to their “fan base”,who I assume are chasing the lingering aroma of Tom Brady’s jock strap.

  6. ADVENTEROO 12/28/2007 at 9:13 PM #

    OK…Pack Fans…

    Remember the days of yesteryear when WE went to bowls (I think we will in the future…). I was in Orlando in 2002 (I think)…

    We had MORE fans in the stadium than were there today….

    BC finally won…thanks to MSU’s FIVE (That’s FIVE with a capital F) turnovers…

    Of course, BC tried to give MSU the ball a few times…

    ‘Twill be interesting next year to see how BOTH teams fare….

  7. RAWFS 12/28/2007 at 10:05 PM #

    Is it just me, or do any of you folks that this is a bad marriage and that the ACC should start getting itself together for a quiet divorce?

    Honestly (and this is heresy to some here, I know) I would rather have ECU as a member of the ACC than Boston College. Are a lot of ECU fans obnoxious rubes? Yes, but far fewer by percentage than BC. And we KNOW we could count on ECU to fill a stadium were they to get a bowl invitation. The real problem is basketball, but they could certainly grow a program down there.

  8. Todd 12/28/2007 at 11:12 PM #

    It wouldn’t have suprised me if ECU had joined before. Yes, they have a big/loyal fan base. Once in the ACC, you could surly build a bball program on tobacco road. Didn’t they already beat an acc team this year?

  9. Trip 12/28/2007 at 11:22 PM #

    That’s what I heard… they took some tobacco road school down.

    If we dropped BC, we’d have to add a school that wasn’t in north carolina or it’d be an outrage across the ACC, couldn’t you hear Gary Williams already? I vote the Gators. They’re equally good in both basketball and football, and I can guarantee you that they’d fill a stadium. The fans down there are so loyal, they’re setting up a burial place on campus so that you can bury your ashes forever with the school. I kid you not.

  10. Trip 12/28/2007 at 11:25 PM #

    Also to add to that… less freaking cold weather if you add a school from the south. Going up to play in BC when it’s snowing, blehh.

  11. Todd 12/28/2007 at 11:26 PM #

    Going back to lunitic and waxhaews alumni points..

    as per BC… I’d geuss a higher percent of alumni still live in the area ..

    as per many schools being in “college towns” as per Blacksburg, Ann Arbor, South Bend, Athens, Clemson and the list goes on and on. People only go to Blacksburg (and the others) for school. After graduation they move on to “the big cities” for jobs and adult life.

    BC is already in a big metro area. Don’t more of their grads stay close to school?

    I’d guess BC has a much higher percent of their alumni living with in a 2 hour drive of stadium/arena that many schools. Yet no fan support.

    Does that make any sense? Agree?

  12. Trip 12/29/2007 at 12:00 AM #

    ^^^ So, who’s going to take BC back to glory once Matt Ryan (TOB recruit) leaves?

    If BC fans are so proud of their team making a bowl game… why not reward the team by selling out a stadium once in a while?

  13. Todd 12/29/2007 at 12:36 AM #

    ^^ for all practical purposes TOB took, or put, BC in the championship game this year! He’ll take State there too.

  14. spanky 12/29/2007 at 1:27 AM #

    i love the arrogant pompous attitude portrayed…

    please, and this is a near beg… please try to repeat those comments in 3 years…. i would love to see you make an ass of yourself (again)

  15. GAWolf 12/29/2007 at 2:51 AM #

    A friend of mine told me tonight that this book:

    ties Terry Gannon to “Rudy” of the movie fame. I consider myself one who appreciates the finer points of Wolfpack history, but I had ZERO clue that Gannon’s father coached at and Gannon attended the same high school in Indiana as “Rudy”: St. Joliet’s Catholic High. Allegedly Gannon was a young teenager when Rudy made his sack against the Bees and Gannon had access to the locker room in South Bend. The newly heard legend is that Rudy gave a young Gannon his helmet as he was carried into the locker room by his teammates to sneak out and hide in safekeeping. Story is that Gannon’s mother-in-law finds the helmet while helping Gannon and his wife clean up their home and asks what they want to do with “this old helmet” or something to that effect.

    Have y’all ever heard anything about this?????? I haven’t, and again I love nothing more than obscure Wolfpack trivia.

  16. GAWolf 12/29/2007 at 2:54 AM #

    For what it’s worth, I found myself pulling for BC tonight despite my issues with Jags and the school’s constant throwing of TOB under the bus. I see the direct correlation of ACC success in bowl games this year to our overall better interests for years to come. However, Jags is burning bridges you guys may never rebuild. That’s no good, and however you look at it if it’s objective you’ll agree. The BC fans need to travel or their just perpetrating their own demise. It’s pretty simple.

  17. GAWolf 12/29/2007 at 2:56 AM #

    They’re. Not Their. I did take an English class at NC State. Sometimes I just get too fired up to follow the rules….

  18. GAWolf 12/29/2007 at 2:59 AM #

    “NC State is a good school” is exactly the type of character that fuels the fire of BC fan idiocy. Do you seriously think TOB has ZERO to do with the team you guys fielded this year? Seriously?

  19. GAWolf 12/29/2007 at 3:01 AM #

    FWIW… my wife lived in Boston for 3 years. She never met one person who actually went to Boston College. While that deflates one of our arguments above, it gives some idea of how poor the BC support is within the Boston inner-city. I sort of feel for them really…

  20. bTHEredterror 12/29/2007 at 5:37 AM #

    Let’s go UMass.

  21. Wulfpack 12/29/2007 at 7:29 AM #

    “The point that alot of people miss is that the current postseason is better than at any time that I know of.”

    No. It’s bad. We will be crowning a pseudo national champion on Jan. 4. That pretty much says it all for me.

  22. RabidWolf 12/29/2007 at 7:29 AM #

    I hate stupid people.

  23. wolfonthehill 12/29/2007 at 7:53 AM #

    And BC squeaks out a 3-point win over a BAD Michigan State team to keep their bowl streak going.

    Their fans may be onto something here… DON’T support your team, and they’ll get cupcake bowl opponents.

    I’m eagerly looking forward to the post-Matt Ryan era. It ain’t gonna be pretty up in Beantown.

  24. Lunatic Fringe 12/29/2007 at 8:21 AM #

    Let’s be honest, BC and NCSU will be linked to some degree at least for the next couple of years due to TOB. The announcers were quick to point out numerous times that BC has not lost a bowl game in 8 years with TOB responsible for each of those wins in some manner no matter how much the fans, current coach, and AD want it not to be true.

    The lack of support by a bowl/championship team is a REAL problem for all ACC fans especially since BC was sold to the ACC as a new market to expand. ACC fans are finding out that no one in Boston really cares about this team so we are wondering what it is we really got out of adding BC to the conference.

    On the topic of Jags, the guy is a loose cannon who has said some very stupid stuff already in his short tenure at BC. We at NCSU had a coach, prior to the arrival of TOB, that tended to speak before he thought and watched how that turned into a circus before our eyes. I actually think Jags is worse, because he just appears to be a jerk who does not care who he pisses off or offends. It is all fun and games when you are winning, but lets see how funny Jags is when BC hits a dry spell.

  25. packfanstk 12/29/2007 at 8:22 AM #

    Quote: Its funny, because the same Eagle fans who don’t support their team while complaining about how they are treated love to boast about the program’s bowl winning streak of seven that ranks as the nations longest. What I don’t hear a lot about is WHY/HOW the Eagles have won seven in a row.

    You see, the Eagles fall so far in bowl selection order each year because their weak fan support that they ultimately play a team of significantly lesser stature. :Quote

    Thank you for making that point. Now, SFN, stop being such a hypocrite and remember that fact the next time you’re tempted to claim that TOB’s great coaching is the reason they have that streak.

    And to whomever asked about it, yes, a Penn State bigwig (the University Prez I think, or the AD) called Swofford early on and asked him if the ACC had any interest in his school. When the word leaked out it raised the issue of the Big Ten’s academic consortium, the Committee on Institutional Cooperation and whether PSU would forsake that for the chance to join the ACC. Swofford made it a moot point because he had his eyes squarely on the Miami, NYC, and Boston television markets. He’s a real visionary, that Swofford guy.

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