Talk About Timing! Right on Cue

“They’ say that timing is everything and we had a couple of items that couldn’t have been more appropriately timed.

(1) First comes the Greensboro News & Record trumpeting a song that you have heard ad nauseum this year.

On the day after someone actually took the time to crunch the numbers and generate some facts on the topic, the N&R hilariously serves themselves up as a fine example of perpetuating a myth – or is it wishful thinking – while playing the role of the ‘drive-by media’. To be fair and balanced, we should mention that the N&R actually made some really good points outside of the following:

In “Carolina’s Youth Being served”

For much of the season, inexperience was the problem for North Carolina’s football team. Now, without the prospect of a bowl game to keep them motivated, the Tar Heels might find that youth is their biggest advantage. There isn’t much to play for in the short-term, but the long-term goals are still there for most of the squad.

“Every single time that we practice and every single time that we play is an opportunity for this football program to grow and get better,” coach Butch Davis said. “That can’t be lost in spite of the fact that the season is dwindling down and there are two games left. For 95 percent of these guys on this football team, their football careers are actually just getting started.”

I hope that you aren’t too tired of hearing about the youth in Carolina’s football program, because you are going to hear it a lot more over the next couple of seasons. Think about it, you’ve been told for years that the players in the Tarheel program aren’t that good and that Butch will need to get some of his own recruits in there. All that is going to do is mean more ‘young players’ over the next couple of years. Additionally, everyone I speak with in Chapel Hill tells me that Mike Paulus will be replacing TJ Yates next year as the Tarheels’ starting quarterback. So, how will they be getting any more experienced by starting a redshirt freshman over an experienced sophomore?

(2) On the very same day that we ran this entry this entry the NC State women’s soccer program was being ‘featured’ by Technician in this article.

It couldn’t be more classic NC State and Lee Fowler.

With two games remaining, the women’s soccer team is already mathematically eliminated from any chance of advancing to even the ACC Tournament.

That’s never a good sign for a program, especially considering the coach of the team is in her 10th season at the helm. Not once has the Wolfpack gone to the NCAA Tournament with Kerrigan as coach. Just because this year’s team is inexperienced doesn’t explain what went wrong in the other nine seasons.

But instead, it’s year 10, and the Pack sits at 0-7-1 in conference play. Kerrigan’s teams have yet to win more than three ACC games or amass more than 10 wins in a season. She’s won 13 conference games in 77 tries, which equals an abysmal winning percentage of 16.88 percent. Her teams have been average at best, compiling a 79-93-16 record.

“She knows from this point into the future she’s got to show improvement as do all our coaches,” Athletics Director Lee Fowler said.

Fowler said the set goal for the soccer programs is to advance to NCAA Tournaments.

“I couldn’t expect a whole lot more from [the soccer coaches] with the facilities we had,” Fowler said. “So now that we do have facilities, I expect an uptake, and we need to be playing to go to the NCAAs every year — not one out of two or three.”

We’ve hashed through the ridiculousness of the facilities excuse and rationalizations in the past. I guess that all I can say is that the Wake Forest fans are pretty damn happy that Ron Wellman and Jim Grobe don’t consistently whine about facilities or the Demon Deacons could have never won the ACC Football Championship last year.

This is just another of those examples that shows the downside to having a career sports/administration person in an important leadership position that requires a more well-rounded set of experiences to excel.

Could you imagine if the ‘real world’ conformed to the Lee Fowler method of management? Hell, any employee who worked at a company that wasn’t already the biggest and the best would never be held acccountable for anything. If the company for whom you were working didn’t have the “facilities” – replace that term with with “resources”; “products”; “services”; “capital; etc – then you would never be asked to do anything successfully. It would be utopia for lazy losers and miserable for anyone who truly strived for success and the create value.

Think about this. How did the likes of Wendell Murphy, Richard Vaughn, Jim Goodnight and Lonnie Poole EVER build their businesses to the level of success that they experienced? Could you imagine if during the early days of SAS or Murphy Family Farms that Goodnight and Murphy came to work telling the employees that there was no reason for them to succeed and that there were no expectations of the employees until they finally got big enough to face their competition on even terms? They would have NEVER gotten there companies to ‘even terms’ as they would have been dead in the water.

If you work for Capital Bank, or Pargaon Commercial Bank or First Citizens…does your boss and company pay you and allow you to keep your job with no expectations or standards simply because you don’t have the capital base or products that are as good as Bank of America, JPMorganChase or Wachovia?

If you work for one of the hundreds of technology companies in RTP, does your boss and company pay you and allow you to keep your job with no expectations or standards simply because you don’t have the capital base or products and services that are as good as Microsoft, SAS or Oracle?

If you are in construction, do you decide that you will just wait until you magically get as big as Centex, Toll Brothers, DR Horton or Lennar before you start trying to build quality homes?

If you broker commercial real estate, why do you even bother until you can get a job with Steve Stroud at NAI or work for CB Richard Ellis?

I certianly hope that you don’t drink Cheerwine or Sun Drop. How could these companies even think that they could exist and compete without the ‘facilities’ of Coke and Pepsi?

If you work for 850theBuzz, does your boss and company pay you and allow you to keep your job with no expectations or standards simply because you don’t the broadcasting power of an FM station?

If you work for The News & Observer, does your boss and company pay you and allow you to keep your job with no expectations or standards simply because you don’t the money or subscriber base of the New York Times or Wall Street Journal?

…I think that you get the point. Then again, you live in the real world where the point is pretty obvious.

About StateFans

'StateFansNation' is the shared profile used by any/all of the dozen or so authors that contribute to the blog. You may not always agree with us, but you will have little doubt about where we stand on most issues. Please follow us on Twitter and FaceBook

'07 Football Media NC State Administration Non-Revenue

22 Responses to Talk About Timing! Right on Cue

  1. El Scrotcho 11/13/2007 at 1:02 PM #

    Mmmmm…Sun Drop.

  2. noah 11/13/2007 at 1:08 PM #

    It’s been generally accepted as fact that many Tarholes will not be back next year. Davis looks like he’s aiming for a full class of 25, so the waiver wire will certainly be heating up.

    Younger and younger.

  3. bTHEredterror 11/13/2007 at 1:13 PM #

    I would ask how many of the younger players are making plays. It was certainly the SRs that stood out against us.

  4. cWOhLFrPAiCKs 11/13/2007 at 2:01 PM #

    The N&R actually made some really good points at the end of that article. With O’Brien being able to rotate out a few of the offensive linemen throughout the game gave us a big boost in the fourth quarter. This season, I’ve seen nothing but improved focus and determination as well as what I can only assume is vastly improved conditioning. All of our players seem to have much more stamina and have been able to play all 4 quarters for the past 4 weeks. And this is all being done with all the injuries and lack of depth we’ve had to sustain all year, to boo. I attribute this to O’Brien’s focus on conditioning and stretching, as opposed to Chuck’s motto of “Bigger is Better”. And finally someone is paying attention to the offensive line!

  5. StateFans 11/13/2007 at 3:08 PM #

    ^ This is a fair point. I am going to update the entry for more balance.

  6. Cosmo96 11/13/2007 at 3:15 PM #

    If they are planning on heating up their waiver wire, they’re playing a very dangerous game. The “perfect storm” for them would be to cut all those players, then Butch leaves and the recruits they had lined up to replace them decide to go elsewhere. Then, if they wanted to make a bad situation worse, they’d make a Torbush-like hire to take Butch’s place.

    If that actually happened, I don’t know if I’d be able to stop laughing.

  7. VaWolf82 11/13/2007 at 3:42 PM #

    Does anyone really expect Butch to stay in Chapel Hill until he retires? If BobLee was correct about Butch’s agent already asking for more money, then he will leave as soon as someone writes a bigger check than UNC is willing to cover.

    Before you laugh too hard at UNC, State would be in the exact same position if Calipari had come to Raleigh. A mercernary will always go to the highest bidder. Your only hope is that he accomplishes something of note before he leaves.

    It would be interesting to tally all of the articles written over the last several years about UNC’s youth, the waiver wire articles every year, and of course the situtation where Bunting pulled an offer from a kid that had verbaled to UNC. The problem in the past was that Buntings new players rarely performed any better than the ones he cut loose. We’ll have to see if Davis does any better….and if he will be around long enough to see how any of the new recruits do.

  8. VaWolf82 11/13/2007 at 3:48 PM #

    Here’s a nice quote for all the State fans that keep crying for State to establish run.

    For the fourth consecutive game Evans threw at least 40 passes. It also was the fourth straight win for State. There is a connection.

    “That is the way that we think we have to play,” O’Brien said. “When you only have one tailback and a freshman behind him, and the best players on your team are the wideouts, you have to get them the football.”

  9. Girlfriend in a Coma 11/13/2007 at 4:21 PM #

    Did he really say “uptake”? That reminds me of Les saying “mute” instead of “moot.”

  10. noah 11/13/2007 at 4:26 PM #

    VaWolf, I mentioned this on another thread, but I don’t think we’re so dominant along the line that we can afford to run the ball on every down the way we did against UNC back in 2002 (Rivers’ junior year). I think we need to manage a pretty even balance between the pass and the run in order to be successful.

    Those play-action bootlegs only work when the defense reads the initial action as a stretch run. And the runs only work when the defense has to drop back in anticipation of a pass.

    We stopped Carolina’s running game because the linebackers were doing such a good job of getting into flats and the gaps. In the second half, they started running play action and there was a huge hole in our secondary where the linebackers were biting.

  11. PackerInRussia 11/13/2007 at 4:30 PM #

    Can we not all stand back in awe of YouthNC? The fact that they even decided to field a football team this year is a testament to their fortitude and will. This team should have a special place in history for being so young, but still playing. Those cute little fellas running around in their cute little football uniforms pretending to be real football players is just an inspiring sight. Most other football teams’ players come in and immediately become sophomores and juniors, but the University of Nursing Children is forced to play freshmen. Freshmen!! Three cheers for the Bonnie Blue Babies.
    Seriously, it’s like something that was said (I think) at the beginning of the Miami game by Larry “Did I Mention I Used to Coach Miami” Coker. He said that Miami had one of the youngest backfields in the country. As if everyone else is playing 30 year old veterans while they’re trotting out teenagers. I also enjoyed the quote (also in Miami game) after the big run by one of their running backs: “That’s recruiting right there.” Larry Coker personally taking responsibility for that run even while sitting in the press box. (yes I just downloaded the torrent and watched the game for the first time yesterday).

  12. noah 11/13/2007 at 5:07 PM #

    Torrent of the UNC game is up. I’ve got about 65 percent downloaded. If anyone grabs it, please make sure to leave it up as a seed for a little while. There was one seed and 15 people were trying to grab it last time I checked. At least continue to seed it until you get your ratio back to 1:1. That’s the only way torrents work…

  13. Redblogger 11/13/2007 at 5:27 PM #

    Where?

  14. noah 11/13/2007 at 6:34 PM #

    http://www.accvideos.com

    You’ll have to register, but it’s free.

  15. MrPlywood 11/13/2007 at 9:32 PM #

    Thanks for the torrent update noah. I registered last night and will download and seed tonight…

  16. whitefang 11/14/2007 at 3:51 AM #

    Noah,
    Also thanks much for the torrent update. I have been in Asia since Sat and did not get to watch the game. Internet is painfully slow and spotty over here so am not even going to try to download a torrent until I return next Mon. I want to watch that game badly so HOPEFULLY there will still be seeds out there then.

  17. old_pcorone 11/14/2007 at 5:23 AM #

    The soccer teams have been abismal
    Do not blame it on Method Road, I’ve seen worst facilities even in professional soccer teams elsewhere.

    Bad coaching, poor motivation would make a better point….
    And yes LeeFowler is making excuses for not having good performances.

  18. whitefang 11/14/2007 at 5:48 AM #

    I am over where “football” means kicking a spotted ball up and down a field (and the concept of tailgating cannot be explained – tried today at lunch) I am jones’in on some real football so reading all football related stuff.
    1. Even though the attempt was good, My observation is it is hard to exactly quantify what “young” means except to say both UNC and State should both qualify. In any case for family reasons I am forced to spend a lot of time watching UVa football and it would be interesting to see any correlation between what i perceive as an overall “older” team and their “miracle” season. Even though we beat them, is their overall success this year all just luck or is experience paying off for them? Or are they “older” than State this year (or maybe Lee would say it is just the facilities).
    2. I am going to miss the damn Wake game too so hopefull after we beat them, it will be uploaded and seeded. I plan to have a lot of extra football to watch next week.

  19. noah 11/14/2007 at 11:04 AM #

    Whitefang, lemme know if you can’t get a torrent of the game when you get back and I’ll try and hook you up.

    I haven’t figured out how to burn a DVD that will play in a regular stand-alone DVD player (when I try to convert them, they always end up too big). But I can always throw it on as a .divx file and burn a data disc for you. You’ll be able to copy it over to your hard drive and watch it on your computer.

  20. whitefang 11/15/2007 at 12:25 AM #

    Noah thanks much. Be back Monday. Where I am headed today for rest of the week internet gets even more scarce so probably won’t even know the Wake results until then!

  21. bTHEredterror 11/16/2007 at 6:12 AM #

    Videos of recent commit Colby Jackson on YouTube. Its multiple parts and he is playing TB and a little LB. We recruited him as a FB and Scout calls him a 1star player. He looks pretty solid, last link is a good write up from the Fayettville observer. Also has info on a couple of OL visits at the bottom of the page.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJ6-vAH8bo4
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=en6a51MuuCM
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c1YqU2XbeYI
    http://www.fayobserver.com/article?id=277743

  22. GoldenChain 11/16/2007 at 10:22 AM #

    As far as Yates, I don’t see him as the problem for xarolina this year, he’s probably been . I also think that they started the year pumped up with the new coach and all but have worn down. It would not surprise me if they shot their wad on State and roll over on the final two.

Leave a Reply