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  • #116510
    Adventuroo
    Participant

    That assumes that THIS year is his last year. I have not seen the Presser on that……

    #116511
    mak4dpak
    Participant

    Minus Men’s basketball, the women are having great season, wrestling, ranked 8th, and doing well, as well as swimming and diving. All part of State athletics. So I am not against Yow, on this one. But Gott is another story. Seems to be okay with losses, talking about how close we are to winning. Guess he thinks we care how close it is. Still a loss whether 51 or 1. Unacceptable!

    #116515
    McCallum
    Participant

    I get a hard on just thinking about swimming titles.

    McCallum

    #116516
    BJD95
    Keymaster

    Man, you’ve got to work HARD to finish below Sid…

    #116524
    mak4dpak
    Participant

    Yow says she is retiring in 2019, and that has nothing to do with what is going on now. So if a coaching change is necessary, she will do what is best for the university.

    #116525
    wolfpack92owen
    Participant

    I’d rather sit through two to three years of losing seasons with a young not so talented roster than watch just one more gd game where we give up 30 open, uncontested three point shots or allowing opposing team players to have career nights. Good luck in the NBA Dennis, thank you for the pack family loyalty. Yurt7, check you on a D league roster if not another D1 squad that will properly develop you (probably your better route). Malik, good luck young man, Mav…sorry bro, graduate early and get the f out that way you could play immediately somewhere and get some exposure.

    Seriously, just checked the box score, seriously….Kapita and Markel played just 2 minutes each. Stellar, absolutely stellar job Gott

    Its almost as if he is trying to get them to transfer

    #116528
    BJD95
    Keymaster

    Well, that way we could be a “young team” again and BOOM! two more years in MG/DY logic…

    #116529
    choppack1
    Participant

    Actually, this is good.

    For those of us who wanted clarity on what the direction of the program would be under Gott of you removed talent and depth as excuses to why he hasn’t been able to take NC State to the next level….We have it.

    There’s really no reason to keep him at this point is there?

    This is what his 17th season coaching in a major conference? It’s utter insanity to believe he will accomplish something he hasn’t in those 16 other seasons.

    #116531
    ryebread
    Participant

    Yow says she is retiring in 2019, and that has nothing to do with what is going on now. So if a coaching change is necessary, she will do what is best for the university.

    Is this something new or just previous discussion about her retirement. Is the bolded part something she actually said, or speculation on your part?

    Not trying to be difficult. This would frankly be good news. I just don’t have that much faith.

    #116535
    MrPlywood
    Participant

    I get a hard on just thinking about swimming titles.

    McCallum

    If that lasts longer than 4 hours you should see a doctor.

    #116536
    mak4dpak
    Participant

    I correspond with DY, via email, and this was her reply to me. She has always been good about responding back to me. That is a rarity in an AD.

    #116537
    TheAliasTroll
    Participant

    I get a hard on just thinking about swimming titles.

    McCallum

    You gotchu one of them swimmin boners? Bless your heart!

    #116543
    Adventuroo
    Participant

    Mak4DPak

    Thanks for that post. I too, email here on occasion….not to discuss political issues or to exchange BBQ Sauce preferences. IT is usually about a specific situation and I offer feedback or will ask a question.

    I HAVE avoided the issue with her as I did not know how sensitive that she might be. She DOES respond, as you know, almost immediately and her responses are curt and to the point.

    For those that are now keeping up with the contracts. She will be Outta here mid (memory) 2019. Coach Doeren’s contract expires or runs through 12/31/2019. Coach Gottfried’s contract runs through the “END” of the 2019/20 season…..Of course, both dates are reviewed each year based on performance.

    When the Coach Doeren situation came up about mid season, there was a LOT of chatter in the higher levels of the Big Donors and also the WPC members (NOT from Bobby Purcell). The consensus was that she was RELUCTANT to pull the pin on Coach Doeren and eventually she decided to give him ONE MORE SHOT.

    I have NOT heard any comments, either way, from these individuals…..but I rarely see them during BB season….I drop over to their tailgates during FB season and it WAS, at the final game, a MAJOR topic….and There was little or any support for Coach Doeren. Seems like beating UNC gets you extra points or tips the scale.

    I can NOT believe that Coach Gottfried has any “political capital” left. His personal issues a few years ago soured a lot of boosters and then he and EA (Baseball) becoming roomies was a concern. She, supposedly, called him into her office for a Dutch Aunt talk about his philandering and then again for his “Odd Couple” arrangement with EA. His recent heart issues was supposed to be resolved so that he could focus on his job and his GF seems to be pretty steady, so he does not have to go on sordies for relief….

    NOW, I was NOT there, but the comments came from well placed sources that talk to the other coaches and members of his (Gottfried) staff.

    #116571
    mak4dpak
    Participant

    For the team’s sake, I hope they can salvage the season. Though that may save Gottfried. I just hate it for the team to again be sitting home watching. Guess we will see. But again it is nice to have an AD, who responds to our emails, when we have concerns.

    #116573
    Rick
    Keymaster

    For the team’s sake, I hope they can salvage the season. Though that may save Gottfried. I just hate it for the team to again be sitting home watching

    I hate it for the team but the right thing for the university is for Gott to be gone. I do not want Yow to have any excuse to keep him.

    #116575
    wolfpack92owen
    Participant

    Mak4DPak

    Thanks for that post. I too, email here on occasion….not to discuss political issues or to exchange BBQ Sauce preferences. IT is usually about a specific situation and I offer feedback or will ask a question.

    I HAVE avoided the issue with her as I did not know how sensitive that she might be. She DOES respond, as you know, almost immediately and her responses are curt and to the point.

    For those that are now keeping up with the contracts. She will be Outta here mid (memory) 2019. Coach Doeren’s contract expires or runs through 12/31/2019. Coach Gottfried’s contract runs through the “END” of the 2019/20 season…..Of course, both dates are reviewed each year based on performance.

    When the Coach Doeren situation came up about mid season, there was a LOT of chatter in the higher levels of the Big Donors and also the WPC members (NOT from Bobby Purcell). The consensus was that she was RELUCTANT to pull the pin on Coach Doeren and eventually she decided to give him ONE MORE SHOT.

    I have NOT heard any comments, either way, from these individuals…..but I rarely see them during BB season….I drop over to their tailgates during FB season and it WAS, at the final game, a MAJOR topic….and There was little or any support for Coach Doeren. Seems like beating UNC gets you extra points or tips the scale.

    I can NOT believe that Coach Gottfried has any “political capital” left. His personal issues a few years ago soured a lot of boosters and then he and EA (Baseball) becoming roomies was a concern. She, supposedly, called him into her office for a Dutch Aunt talk about his philandering and then again for his “Odd Couple” arrangement with EA. His recent heart issues was supposed to be resolved so that he could focus on his job and his GF seems to be pretty steady, so he does not have to go on sordies for relief….

    NOW, I was NOT there, but the comments came from well placed sources that talk to the other coaches and members of his (Gottfried) staff.

    Dont forget Elizabeth kicking him out before the puerto rico trip and the assistant coaches ie. Lutz having a “come to Jesus” meeting with him or intervention if you will.

    Yeah he has used up any good will previously built up among some fans and people in the administration. Its not a good look to see your bball coach drinking at bars in n raleigh.

    #116579
    VaWolf82
    Keymaster

    For the team’s sake, I hope they can salvage the season.

    That doesn’t seem likely. The best chances for another win this season were the two home games last week. State’s remaining home games are UNC, ND, and UVA. Road games are FSU, WF, GT, and Clemson.

    #116580
    BJD95
    Keymaster

    State will probably win 2 of the road games, but losing out at home for a 2-7 conference mark (was Les even ever that bad at home??) seems a distinct possibility.

    5-13 seems likely, 6-12 realistic best case. 7-11 would be where DY would start making excuses.

    #116581
    freshmanin83
    Participant

    His recent heart issues was supposed to be resolved so that he could focus on his job and his GF seems to be pretty steady, so he does not have to go on sordies for relief….

    NOW, I was NOT there, but the comments came from well placed sources that talk to the other coaches and members of his (Gottfried) staff.

    so he is at a place where he can now more than n the past focus on coaching. Hmmm …

    #116657
    mak4dpak
    Participant

    From out past few games, it is clear, if we can learn to play the last 6-10 minutes, we have a chance of win. But that is a big IF!

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