Tyler Lewis transfers to Butler

2013.02_End of game called a foul on Tyler Lewis

Tyler Lewis transfers to a mid-major who lost its coach last year (who pretty clearly saw the writing on the wall, talent-wise), and finished 14-17 last season. Very clearly a step down from NC State.

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“I love N.C. State,” Lewis said. “I committed during my junior year in high school so I feel like I’ve been there forever but I felt like it was time to move on.”

Lewis, a McDonald’s All-American out of Statesville, started 18 games and averaged 4.4 points and 3.8 assists per game this past season. His late move into the starting lineup in February helped push the Wolfpack into the NCAA tournament for a third straight season.

Lewis had seven points and eight assists in the Wolfpack’s 74-59 win over Xavier in the first round of the NCAA tournament. His potential game-winning shot at the end of regulation in a 83-80 loss to Saint Louis in the Round of 64 rimmed in and out.

Lewis started the final 14 games of the season but was in a position where he would have to share time next season with both Cat Barber and Alabama transfer Trevor Lacey.

The prospect of playing next season without star forward T.J. Warren, one of Lewis’ best friends and primary advocate for playing time with coach Mark Gottfried, also factored into his decision to transfer, Lewis said.

The chance to play in a system with more pick-and-roll plays and screens for the point guard was also an important part of the decision, Lewis said.

“I think it’s the right place for me,” Lewis said.

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  • #50548

    StateFans
    Keymaster

    WBS transfers to a mid-major who lost its coach last year (who pretty clearly saw the writing on the wall, talent-wise), and finished 14-17 last seaso
    [See the full post at: Tyler Lewis transfers to Butler]

    #50553

    BJD95
    Keymaster

    Please, for the love of God let this be the last revisionist history and knob slobbering over this decent (but not great) player. Constant pining over a guy who’s gone out of his way of putting down our coach (whether he’s right or wrong, it’s a dick move) only undermines our program.

    His ultimate landing slot should make it absolutely clear he’s no basketball messiah. Time to close the chapter and move the f-ck on, already.

    #50554

    Wufpacker
    Keymaster

    Considering some of his recent quotes, I personally think he should also be stripped of the WBS moniker.

    But maybe that’s just me.

    #50557

    Wulfpack
    Participant

    He did not go quietly, that is for sure.

    #50559

    13OT
    Participant

    Does he really think this will help him land on a better continent when his college days are over?

    #50560

    dallas-pack
    Participant

    Agree with bjd, I wanted him to succeed but time to move on. Future is bright with Cat and others.

    #50569

    MrPlywood
    Participant

    Kid’s got a quick Twitter finger.

    #50570

    Hungwolf
    Participant

    I give Lewis credit for the self awareness that he realized as Cat improves he was being regulated to a second string ACC point guard given his lack of speed and liability as a defensive player, which most recruiting experts had him pegged as an at best second string ACC player anyway. I don’t feel we lost anything and clearly the coaching staff was straight up with him. Maybe he pissed that Gott and Staff just didn’t see in him what Sidney Lowe did, but Gott did the honorable thing and honor his scholarship offer made by Lowe. Lacking an outside shot and he couldn’t keep up with other ACC point guards, a mid major is where he belongs. Good Luck to him.

    #50571

    wufpup76
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    Not a very subtle quote …

    #50572

    MrPlywood
    Participant

    Maybe my post should have been: “If only he had been as quick on D as he is on Twitter.”

    I like the kid, but he’s moving on, so he should just move on.

    #50574

    PackerInRussia
    Participant

    BJD, I don’t get your point. Butler just became an instant national champ contender in 2 years.

    #50577

    choppack1
    Participant

    Try this again. 4 Four year scholarship players…no 3rd year players. Half call out coach….gott may be great 3 years 3 bids – nothing to be ashamed of. I don’t doubt what these kids are saying. Remember, great coaches aren’t always fair or other things.

    #50578

    Wufpacker
    Keymaster

    BJD, I don’t get your point. Butler just became an instant national champ contender in 2 years.

    With Brad Stevens out of the picture, my guess is they will regress to the mean (and possibly beyond, if this past season is an indicator)

    #50580

    bill.onthebeach
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    To hang all this on playing time and competition among team mates may be a little short sighted…

    1. Tyler saved our season which GOTT us the dance ticket LAST year starting in Charlottesville when Lo Brown was injured …

    2. Tyler saved our season which GOTT us the dance ticket THIS year after ANTHONY ShowTime went 1-13 in the Dean Dome …

    3. Tyler had more than a few team mates who couldn’t find the right spots on the floor on Offense, couldn’t catch his passes ready to make their shot and couldn’t help on Defense and yet still led the team in Assists…

    4. Tyler’s outside shots were late in shot clock, were consistently rushed, off-balance and well-defended because other than CUZ we had few other serious offensive options for our opponents to worry about — (review #3 above)…

    This is clearly enough to make any kid ask himself grown-up questions in the middle of the night…

    Obviously there was something going on between Tyler and the Coaches that just wasn’t working and it may well have been that strong outside influences were also at work as the season progressed…

    Coaches say things to kids like… “Here’s what you need to do to play more…”.
    And I’m doubtful that Coaches ever told Tyler “you ain’t going to play…”. ( review #1 & #2 above)

    On the other hand… do you think the Coach heard this…
    “Coach.. I need some help… but I ain’t getting it from anybody but TJ..”.

    In any event…. there was a “process” and things have worked themselves out…

    Tyler gets a fresh start, after a season off…
    …and GOTT & Company GOTT a hell of a a lot of work to do get a point guard ready for next season…

    Good Luck and Best Wishes to both parties…
    That is all.

    -- bill.onthebeach
    #50581

    WolfWiz11
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    @bill.onthebeach – Well said. Lewis did save our butts on more than one occasion. That said, he had some deficiencies on defense. Good luck. Now Gott needs to develop Cat. And that’s gonna take a helluva lot of work because Cat’s game as a true PG was not as consistent as Lewis’. But that’s why there’s an offseason.

    #50582

    PapaWolf
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    Good grief, just GO ALREADY!!!!!!
    Let’s consider this the last we hear about ‘him’. After a year on the bench, I certainly don’t expect to see him leading a team in the tourney.

    #50584

    Tau837
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    1. Tyler saved our season which GOTT us the dance ticket LAST year starting in Charlottesville when Lo Brown was injured …

    Once again, this is a gross overstatement. Are you trolling again, Bill?

    Last season, Brown got hurt against UVA and missed the next two games against Miami and Duke. While Lewis played well in Brown’s absence, the fact is that we lost all three of those games.

    Brown returned in the next game against Clemson and completely outplayed Lewis; it wasn’t even close. Lewis averaged 12 minutes per game from the Clemson game forward; in those 12 games, he totaled 47 points, 13 assists, and 8 turnovers.

    Lewis performed well with Brown out last season, and we lost all three games anyway. After that, his contribution was minimal the rest of the season. He didn’t save anything last year.

    He certainly made a valuable contribution to our team and our NCAA tournament selection this season, and I admire him for that. But he would have been the second best PG on the team going forward, and probably would have been fortunate to log 15 minutes per game had he stayed.

    I’m sure he knew that and it figured into his decision. I don’t blame him, I like him, and I wish him well. But it’s not going to have a significant negative impact on our team going forward.

    #50586

    BJD95
    Keymaster

    Well played, Packer in Russia!!

    We’ve entered the realm of Colbert-style “truthiness.” No matter the 0-3 record (NOTE – I’m not even saying the losses were his fault), he “saved the season.”

    He was and is a very good backup PG. Better in small doses, or starting for a handful of games at a time. Too much PT and weaknesses are exposed.

    One could say that MG did another bang-up job triaging a locker room, with a backup guard constantly bitching about minutes and in the star player’s ear enlisting his aid in said minutes bitching.

    Makes me appreciate KH’s constantly upbeat, team-first attitude all the more. That dude really DID deserve more minutes, LMAO. He will get them in 2014-15. Or if we don’t – I suspect he will nonetheless stay out of the newspaper.

    It sure was nice of The Artist Formerly Known as WBS to heap public praise on his brother’s boss, too. Total class, selfless move. Amirite??

    #50589

    redcanine
    Participant

    Tyler Lewis lost this game of transfer checkers. Midget bowl his a$$ right outta here, BJD.

    #50604

    redisgood
    Participant

    Tyler’s “get the ball to TJ” style worked well this year. No TJ means we will need a PG who can create off the dribble, and Tyler ain’t it. And contrary to certain opinions, I think we are blessed with a damn fine point guard for next year. Oh, and we still have a 5 star McDonald’s All American to back him up when he needs a rest. I’m happy with that.

    I don’t know if anyone had a chance to see the National HS championships at MSG these past few days, but if you did, you know the Martins are stars in the making for us as well.

    #50659

    eas
    Participant

    Best of luck Lewis. I think he will do well in the Butler system and will develop a better shot in the year off.

    I don’t think he has been a dick or constantly put down Gott. He has voiced his opinion and now it’s well known (good or bad). I think he is a good kid (remember the key word there…kid) and was really frustrated. Prolly had people in his ear constantly swaying him to do this or that. I don’t think Gott was a dick to him either but it was CLEAR that Gott wanted a different direction.

    Two parties that wanted different routes and seemed to disagree. That’s all it is and of course Lewis will voice his opinion more loudly now. Why? Because WBS is a kid venting and Gott is a coach/employee/professional
    I liked WBS and am happy he found what he wanted. However, I’m also happy the drama is in the past now. Nothing more to see here….move along.

    Go Pack

    #50690

    graywolf
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    I wish Lewis the best but I am very disappointed in his recent behavior. Just because you don’t feel at home in a place does not give you the right to trash it either…..apparently staying classy is not his style and he must enjoy burning bridges. I hope he learns that burning bridges will burn you ass at times too.

    #50691

    choppack1
    Participant

    Funny how we expect more from kids than we do adults. As for this ending drama, does anyone really think that’s the case? Drama and churn are constant in college basketball. However, our case thus far is a bit extreme. Hopefully, things will stabilize now, but expecting that is incredibly naive.

    #50693

    BJD95
    Keymaster

    First, TAFKAWBS is not exactly a child. 20 years old, it’s fair to expect more.

    Second, our adults HAVE been adult about it. MG wished TAFKAWBS all the best and has kept his mouth shut otherwise. Haven’t heard word one about him trashing the departing player to other coaches (that was a “greatest human ever” HWSNBN specialty).

    #50694

    JT
    Participant

    Plywood is spot on-”Maybe my post should have been: “If only he had been as quick on D as he is on Twitter.”
    I like the kid, but he’s moving on, so he should just move on.”

    REALLY glad he stayed this year- fun to watch run the offense and he saved our asses by switching off for a not yet ready Cat. Cat has all the PG tools and just needs to progress, as players under Gott do (CJ doesn’t count). Tyler knows he belongs at a mid major and can excel in such a situation. He should know he’s not big time ACC starting material due to his lack of athleticism and length; at least he should know considering the schools that comprised his transfer list.
    I will miss Lewis, but it’s a much smaller loss now than it would’ve been last year. Anyway, he needed a Warren level teammate to shine as he did.
    I wish him well and will follow his career, but I really wish he were leaving in a classier manner- stop the tweeted excuses/gripes/whinges. The staff did right by him and he needs to chill.

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