Tyler Harris to transfer

Rising sophomore Tyler Harris has announced he plans to transfer…
I am sorry Tyler’s father has announced Tyler has plans to transfer.

I had hoped to see this kid develop into a solid if not memorable starter by his junior or senior year. Given the attrition we face next year (Howell and Leslie) he was all but guaranteed playing time so this decision came as a shock to me. That is until I read this article.

After reading the article “Tyler’s” decision becomes more explainable. It is a shame to see young men make hasty decisions based on lack of playing time and perceived slights. It is even worse to see an adult do it.

I wish Tyler the best in his future playing career, I think he would have had both a great college experience and basketball career at NC State. If there is any advice I would give him, it is to make the decision that is best for you, look at the whole picture and do not seek immediate gratification.

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55 Responses to Tyler Harris to transfer

  1. beeeejay 05/02/2012 at 12:04 PM #

    This really sucks, and I am almost 100% sure his father was in his ear until he decided to leave. Will we even have enough players to field a team if someone gets into foul trouble or God forbid we have any sort of injury. It is just another piece of NC State Sh*t that never seems to leave us alone entirely.

  2. Rick 05/02/2012 at 12:07 PM #

    No reason to over react.
    We have 4 big men. At this point I do not believe Harris would have been much of, if any , improvement over TDT or Vandy. If we whiff on the recruiting trail it could have an impact in two years.

    As for injuries, if Howell or Leslie get hurt, Harris was not going to make that big of an impact. The only way this really effects next year is if both Vandy and TDT get hurt and AJ does not come.

    I hate to see the transfers too as I think you need 4 year players mixed in with the short timers but this has little to no impact on next year.

  3. Six Pack 05/02/2012 at 12:09 PM #

    Well, I guess he heard that Amilie is going to sign with State and decided to leave rather than ride the pine again next year. I had to find some speculative silver lining to this news.

  4. packbackr04 05/02/2012 at 12:11 PM #

    ouch. Rick is right, not a blow for next yr, but for his junior and senior yrs, he could have been the “Painteresque” 6 man every team needs.

  5. MrPlywood 05/02/2012 at 12:11 PM #


  6. Rick 05/02/2012 at 12:14 PM #

    “Rick is right”

    This bears repeating ;-)

  7. Lunatic Fringe 05/02/2012 at 12:33 PM #

    Writing was on the wall for a while now especially if you had read comments from guy on PP who appears to be a “friend/relative”.

    The lofty expectations Tyler’s supporters will be an issue no matter where he goes.

    Everybody wants to win and play 35 mins a game (all 12 players), but it does not work out that way. It makes you appreciate a guy like Tracy Smith that sat out his first year behind veteran players.

  8. Thinkpack17 05/02/2012 at 12:36 PM #

    SF was the one spot where we were actually 3 deep. He would have been a great 4 year player though. Good luck to him.

  9. baxter 05/02/2012 at 12:47 PM #

    “but for his junior and senior yrs, he could have been the “Painteresque” 6 man every team needs.”

    That isn’t even guaranteed, he could have been still battling for that chance with TDT, Vandy, and Jefferson (or whoever comes in the next two classes). Telling a kid to sit for two years so he can possibly get some minutes is ridiculous. Maybe Tyler doesn’t want to be a potential 6th man, he wants to start or go somewhere he has a higher probability of doing so. How would that not be “whats best for him”

    “If there is any advice I would give him, it is to make the decision that is best for you, look at the whole picture and do not seek immediate gratification”

    Until it comes out that Tyler’s demand was to start immediately then these kind of statements are so full of shit. How do you know he didn’t just make the best decision for himself? Its not like he transferred mid season like Larry Drew II did, he played the season out, watched the transfers / declarations for draft and moved on after it became clear he’d probably not get minutes this year and only potentially get minutes the next. If you saw a top 25 power forward and small forward coming in behind you and think they will have been promised playing time and compete for minutes, where do you get your minutes? If he can go to a smaller school or one that has a lack of front court depth, I think its nothing but selfish to not wish him the best of luck.

    Keeping the depth guys happy is not easy and there is a reason these guys transfer. Insinuating he’s being selfish and immature by stating your “advice” on how to make a decision comes off as being a selfish fan.

  10. JT 05/02/2012 at 12:52 PM #

    This sucks. I think he has potential.I wish he’d gotten more pt this year considering the short bench but I’m sure if he’d earned it he would have. I can’t stand helicopter parents with athletes- it looks bad for everyone and rarely works out for the kid. I cannot see at all how this will help Tyler develop and now he has missed the opportunity to be a real Wolfpacker. Painter is, Tyler isn’t. And Tracy Smith, hell yes he is, red blooded 100%!

  11. IMFletcherWolf 05/02/2012 at 12:55 PM #

    I don’t know if we’ll ever see a guy like Tom Gugliotta again – a guy who rides the bench for two years and waits his turn. Of course, Googs was an unheralded recruit with little expected of him (from fans).

    I think there would have been a place in the rotation for Tyler during his junior and senior seasons, but we’ll never know now. Best of luck to him.

  12. OldWuf 05/02/2012 at 12:56 PM #

    After reading that article, probably good riddance-not Tyler but the father’s meddling. Was Tyler a Sid recruit that MG was able to hang on to? Hard to believe MG would’ve offered him with a dad like that. Proud of MG holding his ground(I assume) and not just telling dad what he wanted to hear. Wish the kid luck.

  13. StandUpAndHowl 05/02/2012 at 1:02 PM #

    Good luck to Tyler. With an apparently overbearing father, he’ll need it.

  14. Rick 05/02/2012 at 1:15 PM #

    “I don’t know if we’ll ever see a guy like Tom Gugliotta again – a guy who rides the bench for two years and waits his turn.”

    Kansas big man Thomas Robinson from this year

  15. TLeo 05/02/2012 at 1:18 PM #

    I really am sick and tired of these prima donas (or those around them)thinking they automatically deserve starting positions or major playing time. Some kids are so talented it’s obvious to all they will get lots of time from the very start but most of these kids need to get over their inflated egos and put in some time and effort and hard work to earn their time even when it means coming off the bench for a couple years. I expect he would have seen lots of playing time next season but I guess not as much as he wanted or thought he deserved. I say don’t let the door hit you in the ass on the way out!

  16. Texpack 05/02/2012 at 1:23 PM #

    Sounds like a Walker or Wilkins situation. These are the kinds of parents you don’t want around your program.

    I gave up a while back trying to hire people strictly based on their skill set. On any team, it’s all about fit. You have to have people/players who are willing to bury their egos and not clamor for credit all the time if you are going to have a well functioning team. You have to have team members who derive their satisfaction from the success of the team that they contribute to.

    One reason our success this year was so sweet is that it rewarded CJ Williams for his hard work, dedication, and patience.

  17. bill.onthebeach 05/02/2012 at 1:36 PM #

    sorry fellas… but I didn’t see what some of you saw from the freshman Harris…

    He looked like a typical AAU player these days to me…

    all attitude and flash… short on fundamentals, Bball IQ and LBS…
    and a good two years away from being a starter and top level contributor.

    I trust Coach Gott and staff… if they had really wanted him to stay, we wouldn’t be talking.

    It’s all part of the move back to the upper echelon of the ACC and college basketball.

  18. BJD95 05/02/2012 at 1:51 PM #

    I didn’t see much potential, either. Think he will fit better elsewhere, and I wish him all the best.

    As for next year, instead of 2 solid lowpost players and 3 guys I am nervouse about playing…now it’s down to 2 and 2. If you want to be an optimist, it’s just less to worry about! :)

  19. packof81 05/02/2012 at 1:52 PM #

    Like many, he wants to go on to the NBA. He doesn’t care about getting a college degree. For him, college ball is only a stepping stone. His dad is looking at this strictly as a business decision.

  20. Rick 05/02/2012 at 1:52 PM #

    “If you want to be an optimist, it’s just less to worry about! ”

    If there is one thing I expect from you BJD is the optimistic outlook ;)

  21. JSRy2k 05/02/2012 at 1:53 PM #

    Article made me think of Wilkins. There was also a kid at Duke who had similar parental overstepping. As a coach I wouldn’t want to deal with that, and I hate it for the kid as well. Rick, I agree with your perspective.

  22. PackerInRussia 05/02/2012 at 2:08 PM #

    So he’s transferring so that he can wait a year to play rather than wait a year to play? I guess he’s not guaranteed more PT in a year, but he’s not anywhere else either.

  23. BAEpackProf 05/02/2012 at 2:13 PM #

    One interesting nugget that I picked up during NC State’s 125th Anniversary Celebration. Tyler Harris was there – and to his credit took part in the “dance competition” that was held. The T-shirt that he was wearing had in big letters: “Talented, but Lazy.”

    It didn’t strike me right at the time. Still doesn’t.

    This may not mean anything, but why wear that?

  24. Wufpacker 05/02/2012 at 2:27 PM #

    This seems like a really bad decision for Tyler, but then again I’m not privy to the full “master plan”. I also never thought Damien Wilkins would play NBA ball after watching him get blocked by the rim on so many layups, so what do I know?

  25. howlie 05/02/2012 at 2:36 PM #

    You have to really feel for the kid and wonder when he’s allowed to make his own decisions.

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