Laugh. Think. Cry.

V himself had said that team wasn’t very good.

After a 6-8 conference record, State was seeded sixth for the 1987 ACC Tournament in Landover. But somehow – not unlike a few years earlier on an even bigger stage – Jim Valvano’s Cardiac Pack had survived and advanced to the title game, where they would face top-seeded Carolina, who had steamrolled through the conference to an unblemished 14-0 record. Trailing the Tar Heels 67-66 with only 14 seconds remaining, Vinny Del Negro stepped to the free throw line in the Capital Centre and coolly drained two foul shots for the 68-67 victory.

I wasn’t yet eight years old that Sunday afternoon, but being a State fan had proven bountiful, I decided. In the days and weeks that followed, I relived that scenario countless times on my steep, dogleg-right driveway so typical of the North Carolina foothills, shooting free throws on a goal that measured about 12 feet on the low side while only around nine on the high side.

I’m much older now, and as Davidson tips off against West Virginia in the first game of the Jimmy V Classic at Madison Square Garden, I’m reticent of the fact that many of the current State students weren’t even alive that afternoon on March 8, 1987, when Del Negro sealed State’s tenth ACC title. At that time, we tied Carolina and bested Duke’s total by three. That title stands still as State’s last one, which is even more damnable considering Carolina has since added seven more conference titles, as well as two national titles, while Duke has added nine more conference titles and three national titles. Meanwhile, during the two decades since we last hung a banner, the N.C. State basketball program has stubbornly endured, insufferably, through the indignity of scandal, followed by complete irrelevance, and even still continues its struggle towards recovery.

The real shame of it all is that an entire generation of State fans knows of Jim Valvano only through his legacy. Laugh, think, cry.

It’s important that even the young generation of State fans understands why Jimmy V was such an endearing – and polarizing – personality for those of us that can never remember being anything but a State fan. But it’s not a romantic history; in fact, it’s quite tragic.

Jimmy V built his legend by winning the most remarkable national title and two ACC titles while at State, but it wasn’t enough to prevent his forced resignation from the team he’d once said he wanted to coach until he died – and tragically, he didn’t miss by much.

To be honest, I don’t completely understand it even now, but I no longer suffer the same naïveté as that kid winning championships in his driveway, so by no means would I defend V’s absolute innocence. After all, under his direction, the athletic department had demonstrated inadequate oversight and had lacked accountability – poor qualities, at best, for a leader. These mistakes weren’t – and aren’t – exclusive to Raleigh. In fact, it took a series of factors to even make it an irrecoverable issue.

Fueled by intense mistrust by the university’s academic community towards Valvano’s athletic department, an impossible power struggle had been borne. The consensus among the academics was that Valvano’s basketball program had become uncontrollable and the university would be far better off without it. To their defense, they had a valid point: State’s admissions process for athletes had indeed become comical, considering one of State’s primary recruits, Chris Washburn, had scored only a 470 on his SAT, while eight of Valvano’s recruits over the years had scored under 600.

This strife remained internal, however, until after a vile, poorly written book (which I refuse to even name here, in the fear it would generate curiosity), rife with inaccuracies and egregious, unfounded accusations of corruption within Valvano’s program triggered both the NCAA investigation and then the independent Poole Commission report that ultimately brought an end to State’s national prominence. The four-person Poole Commission investigated the book’s accusations but uncovered only minor infractions, and ultimately found that Valvano’s actions had “violated the spirit, but not the letter of the law.” However, with the lessons from the scandal at Southern Methodist still fresh, over the next six months a variety of investigations into Valvano were conducted, including one by the North Carolina Attorney General’s office.

Yet not one of these investigations unearthed a single academic or financial infraction within the program. Had anything truly damaging been uncovered, State would have undoubtedly faced far more intense sanctions, including a crippling TV ban. But the NCAA had been satisfied with the university’s internal corrective and punitive actions for the minor violations the Poole Commission had uncovered, which had included tighter restrictions over ticket and shoe distributions to players, limitations of off-campus recruiting visits, Valvano’s resignation as athletic director, and most crippling, a reduction in scholarships for three years. The NCAA also leveled the maximum two-year probation and barred State from participating in the 1990 NCAA Tournament (at 6-8 in the ACC, we wouldn’t have made it anyway).

At Carolina or Duke, that would have been the end of it. Not a single employee on Valvano’s staff had been found to have intentionally violated any rules or laws, but Valvano had committed the seemingly-treacherous act of failing to hold those in his charge accountable. He was viewed as a man who had lost institutional control, a most unrecoverable sin in NCAA terms. Valvano wasn’t immediately dismissed, but a vote of confidence by the chancellor was declined. This left an opening for the factor that ultimately brought N.C. State’s long reign of national prominence to an end – and not with a bang, but a whimper.

This isn’t a story of any ridiculous Carolina conspiracy or even typical media bias; it was far less impressive. It was nothing beyond irresponsible “journalism” at the area’s two largest news outlets, which had launched vicious attacks and spewed relentless vitriol upon Valvano using baseless, unmerited facts and personal bias to such an extent that it couldn’t have been anything other than opportunism at its absolute worst. Even State’s student newspaper joined the popular character assassination of Jim Valvano, who eventually resigned under intense scrutiny and pressure in April 1990.

I was 11 years old in April 1990 when the era of State basketball during which I’d grown up, the only one I knew, came to an end. Now what?

V returned to Reynolds one last time on February 21, 1993, for the 10-year commemoration of his Cardiac Pack’s 1983 championship, and by then he was dying of metastatic bone cancer. As I watched on TV, a lump moved into my stomach during halftime of that Duke game as he left us with that indelible motto to which every State fan can readily and intimately relate: Don’t give up, don’t ever give up.

Two weeks later at the ESPYs – he was so weak that night that his very close friends, Dick Vitale and Coach K, had to help him on the stairs – he repeated those magnificent words from his Reynolds speech, and they’ve been preserved for generations to come through replays during the annual Jimmy V Classic on ESPN. The singular part of his ESPY speech that best summed up why he was such a dynamic presence for State fans wasn’t his statement on mind, heart, and soul, but rather a few minutes before, when he’d gone over his allotted time for his speech: “They got that screen up there flashing 30 seconds, like I care about that screen. I got tumors all over my body and I’m worried about some guy in the back going ‘30 seconds?’”

Fifteen years later that still gets me, every time.

I was very young when his tenure at State came to an inappropriate and unceremonious end, but even then I was acutely aware of his legacy. I really wish State was the staple team of the Jimmy V Classic, but the truth is that the RBC Center will house Les Robinson Court before this university officially promotes Jimmy V. I guess you can see that I’m older and far more cynical now, but I’m still left searching for answers as to how a man who had once drawn so much ire, all that venom, from so many, could now be revered for offering such a redeeming and lasting message.

Why is it that even now, when I watch his ESPY speech each December – like I am now – I’m left nostalgic for an era of State basketball that I hardly remember, and even more ironic, an era that bears the ultimate responsibility for having created the darkest years of State’s rich basketball heritage?

Maybe I’m not the right one to adequately answer why V’s legacy still rings so proudly among us, especially for those of us keenly aware of the ramifications of his indiscriminate oversight while at State. Perhaps it’s quite simply that his message transcends the very essence, the indelible persona, of what it requires to be a State fan: hope.

For the last twenty years, hope has defined us.

After all, it’s all we’ve had.

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112 Responses to Laugh. Think. Cry.

  1. BoKnowsNCS71 12/10/2008 at 12:04 PM #

    True that Alpha. The Pepperdine game was a late night cardio, the UNLV game was close, UTAH was easier to take while the re-match with Virginia and Ralph Sampson was excruciatingly tense. Georgia was good for everyone’s hearts and Houston was just flat out amazing. I have never seen such an emotional and exciting ending to a game to win a national title.

    Much better than having the opponent throw the ball to the wrong team or have the other team call a time out they did not have.

  2. ryebread 12/10/2008 at 12:16 PM #

    I watched the ESPY speech last night and again teared up. My GF (who is a Duke grad who did not grow up around here or really with any memories of NC State basketball prominence or of Jimmy V) sat in silence watching. Jimmy V is a powerful speaker even with all of this passage of time.

    Given it’s been 15 years since the 1993 speech, the University should mark the anniversary by naming the court at the RBC after Jimmy V. I can guarantee that this will heal many of the wounds and it would definitely raise my level of respect for the current administration.

    An added benefit is that it may help bury the hatchet ESPN has with NC State. While that shouldn’t really be a driver, it’s part of the larger business picture that could be sold. Truthfully, if I were ESPN, I wouldn’t respect NC State given that we seem to support Jimmy V and the V Foundation less publicly than they do. The school should unveil it on a nationally televised ESPN game.

    While still a student, I was a champion of naming the court after Jimmy V when we opened the ESA. We obviously didn’t get it done.

    I hope the blog can be used to champion to this cause now. It’s the perfect time to do it and it’s absolutely the right thing to do.

  3. RedTerror29 12/10/2008 at 12:37 PM #

    Everett Case and Norm Sloan were true greats as well. Unfortunately, recognizing their success would only highligh the lack of recognition for V’s. So there coaching legacies sit in a purgatory born of administrative hubris as well.

  4. Alpha Wolf 12/10/2008 at 12:40 PM #

    ^ I think it should be Fowler on the point for permanently recognizing our great coaches. Trotting out the old players at half in one or the other ACC games is nice, but Case, Sloan or especially V should have their name on the court.

    Of course, in the case of Fowler, he’d probably want it named after HWSNBN.

  5. redfred2 12/10/2008 at 12:51 PM #

    The whiz kids that now fill the administrative offices of NC State University are just as S-T-U-P-I-D as their predecessors, the ones who shunned Valvano to start with. They can’t answer any of the tough questions that might come up if they were to finally acknowledge Valvano, so they push that subject as far away as they possibly can.

  6. Noah 12/10/2008 at 1:13 PM #

    Good point, Noah. That Georgia game was the only one in that whole tournament that didn’t have me about to die of a heart attack.

    Utah was a 20 point win. We could have won that game by 50, if we had wanted. We were supposed to be play UCLA (with Pooh Richardson) but Utah had upset them. And actually, although the score was tight, we had the lead and it was UVa who was chasing US in the last bit of the ACC tournament.

    Wake was a horrible game. We played like crap and nearly gave the game away. Carolina was a miracle. We trailed and managed to get it tied and then Perkins nearly sank a half-court shot (it rimmed out) that would have won it. Then we trailed again in OT and Whittenburg brought us back.

    Pepperdine was impossible. Dane Suttle was an 87 percent FT shooter and missed consecutive front-ends. Even the announcers were talking about this was the end of Bailey, Whit and Lowe (who had fouled out)’s career. George McClain had to handle the PG duties.

    UNLV was a huge upset, but probably should not have been. UNLV and Depaul would do this every year. They would have a good team and play the worst schedule and run up a 28-2 record. Then they’d get the crap kicked out of them in the first weekend of the NCAA tournament. Other than Sidney Green, I don’t know that UNLV had any stellar players. And Bailey outplayed Green and was a MUCH better NBA player.

    UVa in the Elite Eight was another great game. I don’t remember us trailing by very many points. I remember hearing about how V really let Lorenzo Charles have it in the TO before the final points were scored. He told him that he hadn’t done a single thing in the game and wondered if he should even be out there. Charles ended up getting fouled and hitting the game-winning FTs.

  7. Noah 12/10/2008 at 1:19 PM #

    They can’t answer any of the tough questions that might come up if they were to finally acknowledge Valvano, so they push that subject as far away as they possibly can.

    Honor V and you’re going to have to talk about 12 percent graduation rates, fixed games and shaved points, Chris Washburn, the huge glut of transfers, how in the hell Pano Fasoulas ever managed to get into college (did he even have a transcript? And did then there was that pro contract in Greece), and about a thousand other really, really uncomfortable questions.

    There will be a Percy Moorman day at NC State before they walk down that path.

    It ain’t happening. No one would invite that upon themselves.

  8. michelletack 12/10/2008 at 1:46 PM #

    I feel very strongly that if Coach Sidney Lowe wins a championship he will have the pull necessary to bring back the name of Valvano to a greater prominence in the program. I also feel strongly that he has plans in that direction. It is obvious from Coach Lowe’s drive to bring the players into Reynolds for more games, wearing the red jackets, and other moves that he has ever intention of keeping V’s spirit alive at NC State. It is only a matter of time before Coach Lowe brings the glory back. So I hope and believe, call that naivete if you will.

    I know it’s not saying much, but remember that just a few years ago the program did honor a jersey for Valvano and brought his family into the RBC to receive it. Not an enormous gesture to be sure, but it was a start.

  9. PoppaJohn 12/10/2008 at 2:56 PM #

    Great post & look at all the responses. We all care about V and miss him. That was a magical time.
    One thing to keep in mind, at that time coaching in college was a bit different. Only since then has the coach become responsible for every nanosecond of his player’s lives. Back then when Cozell stole a pizza, people talked, but it passed. The player’s grades were important, but not THAT important. V’s career was a transition period during which public relations became a big deal, and colleges really cared what was said in the media. V was the perfect example. As long as he kept winning and everyone loved him, nothing else mattered. But when the media started pointing fingers and asking questions, the university turned on him. The “just win Baby” school of thought was dead, and unfortunately, V left with it.
    I agree, there were some issues but they weren’t that uncommon in the college coaching game of the 80’s. Could V have cleaned it up if left to do it? Absolutely. They just had to tell him the rules had changed, I believe he would have adjusted just fine.
    I remain in Coach Valvano’s camp and insist that he was a great basketball mind, a great teacher, a great motivator and a good guy. We may never be that lucky again.

  10. Gene 12/10/2008 at 2:59 PM #

    “into Reynolds for more games”

    Herb / Lee decided to play a game a year at Reynolds. We did not play a game at Reynolds last year. This year we’re making up for it by playing two games there.

    It’s nice the exhibition games were at Reynolds, as well.

    I’ll wait for next years scehdule to see if we’re really playing more than a game a year at Reynolds.

    At some point I wish the emphasis of the program could be in the here and now.

  11. packalum44 12/10/2008 at 3:44 PM #

    Time heals all wounds. Valvano will be honored at some point. Status Quo O likes and respects the Valvano family. However, his nickname rings true. Maybe the next Chancellor will have more charisma and pave his own trail.

    “Go not where the path may lead, but blaze a trail and make one your own!”

    Valvano certainly did.

  12. Ed89 12/10/2008 at 3:46 PM #

    ^^^Back then when Cozell stole a pizza, people talked, but it passed.

    That was Lorenzo, not Cozell…just to set the record straight…and he was going to pay for it later. 😉

    I’m all for the early games in Reynolds, but wish that LTR holders got reduced price tickets since they are included in the season ticket price. Other than that, it’s great.

  13. spudmarsh 12/10/2008 at 4:19 PM #

    I seem to recall that the reason Witt got snobbed by NC State for consideration of the head coach job, after Herb, was because of his coaching ties with Coach V. Let’s hope that they did not burn a bridge there. He is too special and someone the school should be proud to say that he is one of our own.

  14. wufpaxno1 12/10/2008 at 4:24 PM #

    Yeah, and Chris Washburn stole a stereo, after-all, you need a little music to go with the pizza, who brought the beer?

    I know, I know, different teams at different times, but funny just the same. Sad, but funny! 🙂

  15. Wolf Dog 12/10/2008 at 4:28 PM #

    “Honor V and you’re going to have to talk about 12 percent graduation rates, fixed games and shaved points, chris Washburn, the huge glut of transfers…”

    Bull crap statement. No one belittles coach K for all his transfers. Hard to knock a program that has so much talent people have to transfer for playing time. We just haven’t had that luxury since V was here. No one belittles Kentucky or Louisville basketball coaches and they’ve had some horrible strectches of bad graduation rates. Plus why throw out a bogus 12 percent figure just to make V look bad? Lots of V’s players like Sid ended up getting their degrees in the long run.

    ABC News ran a retraction on the games fixing story and even Bob Knight gave an apology for his comments. Once again you pull a Tar Hole and try and run down V.

    Chris Washburn was a great player that went pro early. He went to the NBA and had his problems. He joins hundreds of players who have done the same. So what? I don’t hear anyone calling to take Dean’s name down cause some of his players got caught with drugs as a pro. Perkins, Wallace, etc. Does Worthy getting busted with two hookers make Dean a disgrace? I think not.

    Once again you bad mouth V and show you true baby blue colors.

    There has been talk of honoring V and past coaches. I think if Les had stayed as AD it would have happened already.

    Given the huge success of the V foundation and those that proudly associate their names, money, and time to it, I don’t see anyone raising a fuss over honoring a man who accomplished allot while alive and even more since his passing. Anyone here that would think otherwise has not grasped the huge impact and difference the V foundation makes in cancer research and its benefit worldwide. V has made a bigger impact through the V foundation than he ever did through basketball and I believe he would be very proud of that fact. No one shuns the Jimmy V Classic. No one would shun putting his name on a court!

    Best, most exciting, and electrifying sports event I ever saw was us beating UNX in Reynolds in 83! There is not even a close second. I was sitting in the third row behind the basket where sid does a no look pass to a trailing Thurl Bailey for a dunk over Sam Perkins. My date was a UNC student, even she cheered.

  16. Texpack 12/10/2008 at 4:37 PM #

    The ESPY speech last week stimulated the Jim Valvano conversations with my kids again. My youngest actually got me to take down the picture of my fellow HOZE squad members(including OwenDorm83) and me with Coach V at the Red & White game one year so he could take a closer look.

    I’m a member of a running club here in the Houston area and you’d be amazed at how many runners admire Jim Valvano and draw inspiration from his determination in the face of cancer. I consider myself very lucky to have been a State student during the run to the ’83 Championship, but what I really enjoyed most was going over to Reynolds in the afternoons to watch basketball practice. Coach V’s motivational skills were unmatched, but his ability with X’s and O’s was right up there as well. I think he liked the fact that the public perception was that he was first and foremost a motivator and a recruiter because it made some people drop their guard at times.

    We will return to our rightful place in ACC Basketball. I believe it will be sooner rather than later.

  17. wufpaxno1 12/10/2008 at 4:40 PM #

    Wolf Dog,

    I was sitting in the student section on the baseline. Man, I can still see all the expressions on the faces of the people around me, hear the defining roar, see the red lights on that old sound meter that hung from the ceiling of Reynolds, and feel the sting of the “Hi-Five” slaps just like it was yesterday.

    Thanks for the memories, I hope they stay this fresh in my mind forever!!!

    LRM Note: I’d have to imagine that night was one of those moments that words can never adequately express.

  18. redfred2 12/10/2008 at 6:28 PM #

    Noah, I don’t know where you get “point shaving” and all of the rest of that stuff, but being the fairly sane individual that I am, I’d have to believe that the NCAA would have weighed in much more heavily if anything you’re saying was fact.

    Jim Valvano wouldn’t have even been allowed to set foot back on ANY college campus ANYWHERE if he was involved in ANYTHING that even resembled the picture that you’re painting of him. I like you man, but when it comes to this subject you have the same corn cob up your ass as those dumb asses sitting in their starched shirts in West Raleigh.

  19. gcpack 12/10/2008 at 7:10 PM #

    While I think that Valvano was a very good coach I am a little reserved in this thinking that State needs to name the floor, arena, whatever after him. I would have liked to have kept him as coach without the AD title and with orders that he actually operate the basketball program on a daily basis.

    Let’s not forget that he had his bags packed and was ready to leave for UCLA had State NOT let him out of his contract.
    UCLA couldn’t come up with the $ for V to buy his way out of State.

    I am not inclined to memorialize a coach who wanted to leave for another school. Plus he abdicated his expected duties in running the b-ball program with oversight by letting the assistants do the day to day. Those assistants took liberties that they wouldn’t have taken had their names been on the door to the head coach’s office.

    I, for one, have always been in favor of naming the court after Everett Case. Name it “Case Court” under which would be written
    ” Father of the ACC.”

    At least it would remind viewers everytime we have a televised game at N.C.State where this whole ACC thing got started.

    If I had the $ to do so I would give it with that expectation.

  20. redfred2 12/10/2008 at 8:36 PM #

    Everett Case was great for NC State no doubt, but you tell me what young person, and I’m using the term “young” very loosely here, can relate to Everett Case. I mean, I know Jim Valvano may offend some of you folk’s delicate sensibilites, but as far as who is better for who, the name “Jim Valvano” means, and will CONTINUE to mean, more than A-N-Y other former coach you can even think of.

    It just won’t mean a damned thing to, or do anything for, the high and mighy folks at NC State University.

  21. redfred2 12/10/2008 at 9:03 PM #

    I want someone to please explain the following so I can be a better NC State fan:

    1) What is it that says when NC State does what other schools are also reported to be doing, that NC State becomes the ONLY school to BEAT ITSELF TO DEATH and feel digraced for decades, over things that EVERYONE ELSE HAS APPARENTLY FORGOTTEN and no longer give a damn about?

    2) Why is it that NC State must give away it’s legal rights and be so OVERLY above board, in order to please so many of it’s fans?

    3) What criteria is it that separates NC State’s definition of a “class act” from that the rest of the universe?

    4) Why is that when most other universities are begging their best athletes to come back and continue to be part of their university, do lot’s of NC State fans seem to be in such a hurry to shoo them out the door and rush them out of Raleigh after they receive their very invitation to move on?

    I could go on, but that’s enough for starters.

  22. packalum44 12/10/2008 at 9:32 PM #

    ^ Poor marketing and poor leadership.

    We are the red-headed step child of the triangle. This must change and will be hard until we gain superiority over our neighbors over something… Our best shot at superiority will be in football. Being an annual national contender in football will help change the culture and perspective at NC State in a pervasive manner (academics/sports/students/faculty/alumni/NC society).

    It would also help to be more competitive academically. This can be done with a change in perception because realistically, our academics are on equal footing with UNC.

    We also need a much larger endowment. Hopefully Goodnight comes through with 10 digits in this regard. I also hope we get a law and medical school. Again, this is not something I have ever heard anyone advocate but the majority of great institutions have these. They are cash cows.

    These are the much larger issues facing our status as the red-headed step child but if some of these things fall into place, the issues raised above will dissipate. I understand this is a vague answer to a pointed question, but nonetheless, its my opinion.

  23. highstick 12/10/2008 at 9:37 PM #

    Wasn’t the point shaving thing implied with Shackleford? But never really ever went anywhere? Seems like I read that one in V’s book.

    Never have read Bob’s sequel, but might pick it up to read over Christmas.

    What’s sad about it, and it certainly is pointed out in several comments, is that we’ve let this bullcrap fester forever. Now, the Tarholes and even our own alumni, believe it. Wish someone had the clout, the audience, and whatever it takes to finally prove it to be one of the biggest lies that ever was!

  24. packalum44 12/10/2008 at 10:01 PM #

    Hey Noah: Out of curiosity, what say you to the dissenters of your Valvano statement? I have always found you to be more of a devils advocate than being a Tarhole in disguise. You simply have too many detailed memories of State games to be a hole.

    I as well don’t think it would be a big deal to name the court after him. Everyone likes Valvano. I have never seen a more charismatic person in my life. I haven’t met one person, even a hole, say anything bad about him except in jest when they are trying to push my buttons.

  25. 61Packer 12/10/2008 at 10:20 PM #

    “We will return to our rightful place in ACC basketball. I believe it will be sooner rather than later.”

    Texpack, do you know something the rest of us don’t?

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