Carter-Finley Karaoke

NC State’s athletic department is currently taking votes for a sing-along anthem to be played between the third and fourth quarters at Carter-Finley Stadium. You can find the article and vote here.

Let’s take a look at the 3 songs mentioned in the first paragraph of the article. First, “Sweet Caroline” was played at Red Sox games because Fenway’s music director had heard it played at other sporting events and would play it at random late in the game if the Sox were winning. The fans soon began to anticipate the song as a good luck charm and is now a tradition.

Second, “Hang On Sloopy” was played at Ohio State because a marching band member convinced the band director to let the marching band play the song. The crowd at the Horseshoe had a positive reaction so the band started to play it at every game and is now a tradition.

And third, House of Pain’s “Jump Around” (not Van Halen’s “Jump” as initally stated in the article. Imagine that, sloppy editing on although it is now fixed) just happened to be played at Wisconsin in an ugly game against Purdue. It pumped up the crowd and the team and is now a tradition.

Notice a theme? None of these traditions were manufactured. A song just happened to be played at the stadium, the crowd liked it, so they played it again next game and now it is played every game. It just happened naturally, there were no polls or votes or anyone telling the fans what song they are supposed to like.

So NC State’s athletic department, on the cutting edge as usual, is trying to manufacture traditions because other teams are doing it too (see also the new wolf statue in the tunnel. The Cranberries album “Everybody Else Is Doing It, So Why Can’t We?” must be popular in the athletic department these days). Although, I’m not sure how we were going to naturally create a tradition when the jumbotron is usually playing a Fox 50 commercial, the wacky donkey House-Autry ad, win Chuck’s Truck or reminders to recycle (even though it is a worthwhile cause).

Now let’s take a look at the 5 finalist songs. I’m a big music fan, I may not be up on every new indie band but my iPod has a pretty wide range of music. So this is my take on these songs, you may or may not agree, I understand music taste is subjective.

First, “Hey Baby” by Bruce Channel. Decent choice, I’m neutral on this song. It’s not on my iPod but I don’t hate it either. Along with the Sugarhill Gang’s “Apache” it seems to have caught on some with the student section. Of course, instead of letting these songs catch on naturally we have to go through the official voting process.

Second, “You Give Love A Bad Name” by Bon Jovi. Really? That’s not even the best Bon Jovi option, I would have gone with “Livin’ On A Prayer”. If we have to have some 80s hair metal, why not Ozzy’s “Bark At The Moon” which would at least tie in with our mascot.

Third, “Song of the South” by Alabama. I know some of Alabama’s stuff, like the mountain music that grandma and grandpa used to play. But I have to admit I was not at all familiar with this song. Which adds a degree of difficulty for singing along plus are you really going to get the crowd to sing “Daddy was a veteran, a southern democrat, They oughta get a rich man to vote like that”? And nothing against country music, but it also plays into the redneck/tractor stereotype.

Fourth, “I Won’t Back Down” by Tom Petty. I’ll say up front that I am a big Tom Petty fan, I celebrate the guy’s entire catalog. When you get a packed crowd at Walnut Creek singing along to the chorus it’s actually pretty cool and the lyrics are fitting and pretty easy to remember. But as much as I love this song, it just doesn’t strike me as a football pump you up type song or more of a fun song like “Hey Baby” and “Apache”.

Fifth, “Start Me Up” by the Rolling Stones. Starts off with another classic Stones riff but after the first line can you honestly sing the rest of the verse off the top of your head? Neither can I and I’ve probably heard the song at every Hurricanes game I’ve been to over the past 10 years. In its defense, the line in the chorus “You make a grown man cry” is actually pretty fitting for State athletics. But either nobody in the athletic department bothered to take the time to read the lyrics or Mick Jagger’s sexual innuendos went completely over their head. Just a sample of some of the lyrics are “I’ve been running hot, You got me ticking gonna blow my top“ or “If you rough it up, If you like it you can slide it up, slide it up” and of course “You make a dead man come”. Sounds like a perfect sing-along with your kids at the game doesn’t it?

Another problem I have with the finalists is that none of the songs have any sort of connection to the school. For example, as a WVU fan, “Country Roads” is a perfect song for Mountaineer Field, John Denver even played it live when the stadium was dedicated. There may not be a lot of wolf songs but just off the top of my head there are the aforementioned “Bark At The Moon”, Warren Zevon’s “Werewolves of London”, Duran Duran’s “Hungry Like The Wolf”, Metallica’s “Of Wolf And Man”, Whitesnake’s “Still Of The Night” and oldies like Sam the Sham and the Pharaoh’s “Li’l Red Riding Hood” and “Werewolf” by the Frantics (although more of an instrumental). At least a song like one of those would be unique and fitting and not just some song drawn out of a hat.

I can anticipate this being a colossal failure with half the crowd not even paying attention that we’re supposed to be singing now and the other half not knowing the words. And sprinkled in will be those of us who will refuse to participate on the grounds that manufactured new traditions like this have a high probability of lame.

About WV Wolf

Graduated from NCSU in 1996 with a degree in statistics. Born and inbred in West "By God" Virginia and now live in Raleigh where I spend my time watching the Wolfpack, the Mountaineers and the Carolina Hurricanes as well as making bar graphs for SFN. I'm @wvncsu on the Twitter machine.

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108 Responses to Carter-Finley Karaoke

  1. stormin norman 08/20/2008 at 3:16 PM #

    Just Boo! It will end the tradition before it is a tradition.

  2. primacyone 08/20/2008 at 3:21 PM #

    Everyone should just stand up and whistle the theme to “The Andy Griffith Show”!

    I expect the whole idea will flame out by the 3rd home game.

  3. DJ 08/20/2008 at 3:25 PM #

    “NC State head coach Tom O’Brien announced today at his press conference that redshirt sophomore linebacker John Ware has been academically suspended from school.”

    Hope John gets everything taken care of. We need as many players available as possible given that the injury bug is a bitin’.

  4. newt 08/20/2008 at 3:28 PM #

    Wow, I never bothered to take in the lyrics to Still of the Night and realize the wolf references.

  5. Bynum State Fan 08/20/2008 at 3:35 PM #

    That Neil Diamond song Sweet Caroline gets enough air time in the ACC already! Dang those Heels.

  6. Dr. BadgerPack 08/20/2008 at 3:37 PM #

    They could play “Thriller” and it would be more relevent than some of the nominees…

    Note: Sarcasm meters need to be turned “on.”

  7. Bynum State Fan 08/20/2008 at 3:44 PM #

    I like Sam The Sham & The Pharoes “Wooly Bully”. Start Me Up is a great song by The Stones, albeit maybe not appropriate. Living on a Prayer is great. Some may consider Bruce Channel’s Hey Baby to be a bit old, as Hang on Sloopy is as well, but I like both. Since Start Me Up is a kickass song, I go with that. Although Ozzie’s “Shot in the Dark” might represent our chances better.

  8. Noah 08/20/2008 at 3:51 PM #

    Werewolves of London would be good, something like Sweet Emotion would be good. Running Down a Dream or Won’t Back Down would be fine. I can think of half a dozen Springsteen songs that would probably work…

    I think you would want to stick with the middle of the road as much as possible. I would not want any rap, country or heavy metal (or jazz or bluegrass or polka or classical).

    You want something fairly upbeat, you want something people can sing along to, you want something that most will enjoy and everyone will tolerate.

  9. Bynum State Fan 08/20/2008 at 3:54 PM #

    State Fan, I never reall payed that much attention to the lyrics of Start Me Up, til NOW!

  10. redfred2 08/20/2008 at 3:58 PM #

    It can be anything they know the words to, that’s not rap and that’s acceptable to Chancellor Oblinger.”

    For a complete list of what songs are considered “acceptable”, I’d say the re-runs of The Lawrence Welk Show on PBS, is probably your best bet.

    WV Wolf Edit: Reminds me of this scene in Good Morning, Vietnam: “Furthermore, you are to stick to playing normal modes of music, not weird stuff. Those who we’d find acceptable here would include Lawrence Welk, Jim Nabors, Mantovani…Percy Faith…Andy Williams, Perry Como, and certain ballads by Mr. Frank Sinatra.”

  11. Bynum State Fan 08/20/2008 at 4:06 PM #

    Yeah RedFred, we can choose music from Tom Jones, Pat Boone, Air Supply, The Carpenters, The Platters, or a little more “hardcore” with Chicago.

  12. backinpack 08/20/2008 at 4:06 PM #

    I always liked “Hungry Like the Wolf” since it brings back memories of the 80′s when we were actually good at the revenue sports. (Maybe that’s a good reason not to use it.)

    I also like “Werewolves of London” (or whatever it’s called that they play after every basketball game in RBC Center). I can see the crowd doing the ‘howling’ in the song with the volume off just like the crowd does at Fenway with the “Bah, bah, bah” in the chorus.

  13. Bynum State Fan 08/20/2008 at 4:08 PM #

    I forgot who sang Wherewolves of London. It sounds like Bob Segar & the Silver Bullet Band, but I know it’s not him.

  14. backinpack 08/20/2008 at 4:09 PM #

    I just checked and there it no clear winner right now — four of the songs have just over 20% of the vote with one around 10%.

  15. Bynum State Fan 08/20/2008 at 4:09 PM #

    Yes BackinPack, that was a great song by DuranDuran. Reminds me of when I really enjoyed music and not all of this current crap that’s out. Guess I am getting old (34).

  16. backinpack 08/20/2008 at 4:10 PM #
  17. Bynum State Fan 08/20/2008 at 4:11 PM #

    Thanks Buddy!

  18. tcthdi-tgsf-twhwtnc 08/20/2008 at 4:17 PM #

    Why not just use Sugar Hill Gang: Apache? The band already knows it very well.

  19. Daily Update 08/20/2008 at 4:23 PM #

    Personally, I think this is the dumbest idea I have ever heard of considering the songs. “Hey Baby” is really ghey for a football game atmosphere.

    Agree with songs like Hungry Like the Wolf and Werewolves of London…they would have been much better choices.

  20. redfred2 08/20/2008 at 4:25 PM #

    This is not a sing-a-long song, as a matter of fact it’s just music, and doesn’t even have any words, but is anyone familiar with the old western “Big Country”. Gregory Peck, Charleton Heston, Burl Ives, Chuck Connor,…

    The movie, as well as the music, is from a different era and older than dirt, so I’m sure most folks would consider it corny as hell, but I’ve always thought that theme music would be great when a football team is entering the stadium.

    Sorry about voicing that, I’ll bet even James Oblinger himself, would probably consider that music too square for the new NCSU.

    I’m guessing we’ll probably end up with something from “Wham”.

  21. El Scrotcho 08/20/2008 at 4:31 PM #

    I nominate…

    WV Wolf edit: This stopped being funny a long time ago

  22. backinpack 08/20/2008 at 4:32 PM #

    I would also like “Space Oddity” by David Bowie since the chorus (if you want to call it that) includes a reference to what many called our new Head Coach when he was hired.

  23. redfred2 08/20/2008 at 4:35 PM #

    “Hungry Like the Wolf”- BIG NO! I hate that crap!!!

    “Werewolves of London”- Good song, catchy tune, everybody knows it, that would work.

  24. Ismael 08/20/2008 at 4:38 PM #

    the last 10-15 threads have at least made me double-over in laughing at least once – props to redfred2 with his lawrence welk reference, my stomach is still hurting.

    i was 10 years old in 1983 and long after “Hungry Like the Wolf” was nationally popular, it was still crazy popular in NC.

    I’m just imagining Carter-Finley singing along to that “Little Red Riding Hood” song, that woudl be awesome

  25. BJD95 08/20/2008 at 4:39 PM #

    I nominate “I Wanna Be Sedated”.

    They already play that awful Werewolf of London song after the game ends.


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