Bill Friday: UNC Problems Part of a National Trend

Former UNC President Bill Friday, long a critic of the increasing monetization of college sports, argued that the root of UNC’s current problems are money in yesterday’s Winston-Salem Journal.  That’s not money as in money paid by agents to players, or money as in money possibly paid to recruits by an associate head coach with a long and checkered history, instead, it is money as in a desire to become a big-time program and money as in money spent to upgrade Kenan Stadium to facilitate Tar Heel dreams of becoming a nationally elite program.

“I argued with [UNC’s boosters and athletics department about] tearing down the [old] field house,” Friday said. “Why does an academic center require three levels of special seating you buy? That allows privilege to creep in, which had never been allowed before…. Once you let the power of money begin to control decision-making, you’ve lost what you’ve set out to do, which is to create programs equal to every citizen in the state. As for the privilege of beer and wine — if that’s what it takes, we don’t sell the seat. That’s a capitulation to an argument that has no strength at all.”

Stadiums don’t make teams cheat, of course.  They do put pressure on coaches and players to win, and all too often a coach incapable of winning under the rules looks to illegal methods to achieve his team’s goals.  But instead of blaming crimes on criminals as it were, Friday is quick to blame that old and ready bogey man, “The System.”

“This endless commercialization leads to double admissions standards at institutions and double pay scales at institutions,” Friday said. “The tragedy is that out of the 119 institutions playing major-college sports last year, only five broke even.”

Sounds nice on the surface to sympathetic ears, that everyone is doing it, that it’s money, or in other words, the criminal is the victim.

But the reality is that special stadium facilities, easy courses and large budgets funded by TV money do not truly imply that a team must revert to cheating to succeed.  After all, wasn’t a Taj Mahal arena built, haven’t players graduated with Geography degrees and haven’t millions upon millions of dollars been earned by the perennial national champion-caliber UNC basketball program?  Or is there something rotten in that particular area in Denmark too — which would be the system’s fault too, of course.

We dare not ask that question, Dr. Friday, but your logic would extend to that program perfectly as well.

The bottom line is that the thrust of Friday’s argument is nothing more than a Red Herring. Instead of coaches, athletes and administrators having a sliver of personal responsibility, it’s “the system?”   That comes from complicit or at the least lax oversight, coaches unwilling or unable to comply to NCAA rules and perhaps boosters to fund illicit payments to recruits who let it known that they are for hire when they are picking a college football team.  Add in a culture of Mickey Mouse academics to make it look good on the surface and you have a the recipe for a rogue program.  And with what’s known to the public so far about what’s going on at UNC, many of those elements have been confirmed to be part and parcel of their business methods.

As for Friday, his adopted alma mater – and make no mistake about it, NC State graduate Bill Friday is a Carolina man through and through -  he says “This is one man talking with a lot of sadness in his heart, because I don’t think this is what the university stands for or should want.”

Given the way that the UNC Board of Governors, the Chancellor, the Athletic Director, silent tenured professors (who can speak freely, mind you) and every one in between has circled the wagons and kept silent on the matter whenever possible, that the head coach is still on the job and still recruiting “big-time players,” that players are being given “rolling suspensions” to meet football needs and that the UNC System has not called for an independent investigation to get to the roots of the real problems in Chapel Hill, apparently it is what UNC stands for and wants, Dr. Friday.  And that’s what’s really what should make you sad…especially when other programs in the UNC system are doing things the right way.

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24 Responses to Bill Friday: UNC Problems Part of a National Trend

  1. LRM 09/18/2010 at 9:18 AM #

    Alpha, well said.

  2. NCSU88 09/18/2010 at 9:20 AM #

    Time to roll out dean.

  3. LKNpackfan 09/18/2010 at 9:33 AM #

    There is some serious heat beneath the surface of his statements. I didn’t interpret them as excuse mongering, just venting of some steam built up over several decades. Regardless of how you translate it, he’s pretty ruthless towards the current state of Chapel Hill.

    “I think the more pervasive question here is the integrity of the institution,” Friday said

  4. old13 09/18/2010 at 9:38 AM #

    What Friday fails to recognize is that rogue programs existed well before the “big money” came to college sports. It’s been going on since early last century when “ringers” were brought in on Saturdays from the mills and the mines to pose as “student-athletes” purely in the name of winning. You see the same thing in all walks of life from Jimmy Baker to Madoff to doctoring data in support of “global warming” to politics and everything in between. There are cheats everywhere. In the case of college sports, it is much more visible now due to having more college sports of national interest, the rise in its overall popularity, the media, and “instant communication.” Sure money is a factor. But it’s never been the only incentive for such low actions. Now, as in the early days, the primary way to combat it is to have leadership with character and integrity that provides for effective policing to weed out the rogues.

  5. Alpha Wolf 09/18/2010 at 9:38 AM #

    LNPackfan: perhaps, but Friday also went on and on about how money and “the system” [of athletics]” created this problem.

    Bottom line is that it comes down to personal responsibility, from the Chancellor’s Office, through the classrooms, the coaching staff down to the kind of players you recruit and play. While it is true that not every student will succeed in the classroom nor every athlete will avoid running afoul of the law, it is true that personal responsibility or the lack of it can create an environment of cleanliness….or the lack of it. There are just too many “clean” and successful programs across the landscape of college sports to believe anything else.

  6. McCallum 09/18/2010 at 9:54 AM #

    You boys are CLEARLY a bunch of racists. The problem is the inherent racism of the university system coupled with the white supremacy of the general culture. These guys needed some help since the general culture was so inherently stacked against them. Money or writing papers, this was always a class issue and a race issue. These guys aren’t guilty of anything.

    FREE THE unc13, FREE THE unc13, FREE THE unc13.

    No justice, no peace.

    McCallum

    (and yes guys, this is satire. Mind you that we should apply ample amounts of satire to this issue using all weapons at our disposal. All of the lecturing, the posing, the pompous attitudes, the me better than you angle and lastly the long reaching indictments against our beloved social and cultural institutions should not be forgotten in all of this.)

  7. wolf_at_my_door 09/18/2010 at 10:02 AM #

    An old goat (lover) trying to rationalize UNC’s problems. Sorry Mr. Friday the NCAA isn’t going to buy your point of view. “The System” didn’t make them cheat. The UNC leadership did and it extends back into his day.

  8. stejen 09/18/2010 at 10:09 AM #

    Bill Friday was the UNC President and he argued with the boosters but he couldn’t do anything to stop the upgrades of the athletic buildings? Right, Bill. Are you sure your last name isn’t “Clinton”?

  9. stejen 09/18/2010 at 10:16 AM #

    Or perhaps,, to paraphrase Clinton “just exactly how do you define ‘argued'”?

  10. Master 09/18/2010 at 10:30 AM #

    Alpha – nice column. There has been a double standard in the UNC system for years that allowed the Board to turn a blind eye towards Chapel Hill while interfering thru micromanagement of the other institutions.

    Your two greatest points of analogy are the fluff degrees at Chapel Hill (anything called “Studies” is more therapy than scholastic) and how the big money “system” managed to steer clear of the Dean Dome.

    I have made the argument for years that almost any “University of (name your state) will be better in a given sport than a “State” or “Tech”. Yes, I know it’s not universal, but the liberal arts universities have an advantage in offering core curriculum that are subjectively graded vs science based studies that are objectively graded. UNC clearly has the advantage of being able to offer soft degrees in the various “Studies.”

    As for the pristine nature of the UNC basketball basketball program (vs UNC football), I would say it is a willingmness of the University and the Board to protect their brand at all cost. This is part of the marketing arena where UNC projects it’s “Public Ivy” cred to it’s fullest image potential. In my mind (which is covered with tin foil right now) there are moles deep within the bowels of the admissions and athletic offices shredding basketball documents as we type. The UNC basketball protection racket is working harder than a pedophile Catholic bishop at screening the record of tricks and misdeeds in that program.

    Keep up the good work Alpha.

  11. McCallum 09/18/2010 at 10:46 AM #

    Master,

    Those are some fine points you have above. I will warn you that trouble is head on the horizon for the hard sciences and it deals with the injection of the subjective. Where as science is objective and rational there are certain caveats within those programs which are now injecting the subjective. Though the questions posed are theological in origin the current manifestation of the subjective in all things arises from our culture of plenty. When you have animal science people influenced by questions along the lines of “the morality of eating meat” and books like the Omnivores Dilemma critiquing plant genetics then the subversion of the objective nature of science is afoot and ready to be influenced by politics.

    Read Goethe, his distrust of the objective nature of the hard sciences of his day reads like these yahoos lecturing these days. Again, the question is theological but these folks have little religious belief and they do not trust science.

    Apologies for the side track but your points were too good not to comment on.

    McCallum

  12. wolfpacktexx 09/18/2010 at 11:00 AM #

    surprising editorial on the front page of the N&O local section by the editor Drescher. Actual criticism of the UNC’s faculty council and the lack of questions and accountability on chancellor Thorp over the Butch Davis program fiascos…

    About as good as your going to get out of the N&O against our famed flagship university UNC – Chapel Hill.

    Perhaps his way of supporting JP Giglio’s questioning of Butchie boy… He claims “their reporters will work to get answers” well that has not been seen to date. He challenges the faculty to get engaged in this issue on creditability. Where he failed was to point out how our Board of Governors and the sorry incumbent soon to be replaced have failed to question Thorp, Budour and Butchie’s and leaving it to their so called self investigation…

  13. McCallum 09/18/2010 at 11:13 AM #

    The gates of the country club have been rattled. I expect nothing other than a complete blame of the society in general and a slap on the wrist.

    Someone can grab the high ground of truth and integrity if they’ll speak up. I expect the cowering nature of working your way up the academic ladder to be the greatest barrier to anyone finding a full measure of character.

    Just as I always expected, in their hearts most english majors are impostors.

    McCallum

  14. IMFletcherWolf 09/18/2010 at 12:07 PM #

    “As for Friday, his adopted alma mater – and make no mistake about it, NC State graduate Bill Friday is a Carolina man through and through …”

    I know that Friday is a State grad, but your comment made me realize that I almost never (if ever) hear Friday’s name directly associated with State. He’s always mentioned with Chapel Hill or the “system.” Interesting. Is he similar to John Edwards in that regard? Or something else?

  15. Alpha Wolf 09/18/2010 at 1:46 PM #

    ^ I think that you kind of answered your own question: Friday has always been most concerned with the “Flagship” – a laughable term if you ignore the News & World Report ratings and look at mean and median salaries of NCSU v UNC grads, as well as the preference of hiring managers between the two. That, and which of the two is the larger school whose specific mission is to serve the people of NC?

    State is and always will be “Moo U” to them. Last time someone from Chapel Hill said that to me, I looked at him and said, “let me ask you a question: which could you do longer: go without a lawyer or go without eating?”

  16. IamGumbyDammit 09/18/2010 at 3:17 PM #

    Where did the article about the UNC Faculty Council’s non-performance go?

  17. Elrod 09/18/2010 at 6:56 PM #

    ^ Wondered the same thing. Posted a question there that I would have liked to have had some feedback on.

  18. LifeScientist 09/18/2010 at 9:19 PM #

    So what I’m hearing here, is an admission that the “Carolina Way” is a myth? Or that it’s actually just everybody’s way because everybody does it? Do I have that straight, Mister Friday?

  19. Wufpacker 09/18/2010 at 10:31 PM #

    “That allows privilege to creep in, which had never been allowed before…. Once you let the power of money begin to control decision-making, you’ve lost what you’ve set out to do, which is to create programs equal to every citizen in the state.”

    Does Friday really believe this statement? Has he become senile? Or is he just lying, either to himself or everybody else? Or both?

    To state that “privilege…had never been allowed before” in Chapel Hill is preposterous. Maybe he really doesn’t see it but they (and by “they” I don’t just mean the athletes, mind you) are some of the most OVER-prvileged, arrogant SOBs on the planet. I understand he means prvilege in a slightly different way, but that is equally preposterous. Any Ram’s club member has privileges that non-members do not. Any BIG MONEY donor had BIG privileges. It’s ALWAYS been that way.

    And as Alpha and others pointed out, its that way in other places, too. Other places that DON’T cheat.

    And then his “…you’ve lost what you’ve set out to do, which is to create programs equal to every citizen in the state.” EVERY citizen? Really? Or just those considered “good enough” to get into the self-proclaimed “Harvard of the South.” [cough…gag]

    I’ve seen numerous examples of those “every citizens” that have UNC-CHeat degrees use the argument that “you’re not good enough to have gone to UNC” in the past several weeks. Seriously. That is nearly a direct quote from many of them.

    Every citizen my Aunt Fannie.

    Some of you have likened Erskine Bowles to “The Chancellor” of Star Wars infamy. Make no mistake….it is Friday who is the chancellor. Bowles is nothing more than a complicit Vader.

  20. stejen 09/19/2010 at 8:21 AM #

    Alpha, obviously I can’t mention names or the school, but I know a person in admissions at a medical school (obviously not UNC) and she told me that they favored State students over UNC as they tended to do better in medical school. Makes you wonder.

  21. bradleyb123 09/19/2010 at 11:39 AM #

    The bottom line is that the thrust of Friday’s argument is nothing more than a Red Herring. Instead of coaches, athletes and administrators having a sliver of personal responsibility, it’s “the system?” That comes from complicit or at the least lax oversight, coaches unwilling or unable to comply to NCAA rules and perhaps boosters to fund illicit payments to recruits who let it known that they are for hire when they are picking a college football team. Add in a culture of Mickey Mouse academics to make it look good on the surface and you have a the recipe for a rogue program.

    Exactamundo.

    Well done, Alpha. I’ve referenced several SFN articles and blogs on other blogs. UNX fans dismiss them as biased due to the source. It’s a shame they can’t open their eyes and read what you guys write with an open mind. Because you guys make some VERY valid points and observations.

    I actually consider SFN to be a better source of information than the N&O or WRAL. You guys do more investigative reporting (IMO) than people that are PAID to do that. It’s really a shame.

    Keep up the good work.

  22. Hungwolf 09/19/2010 at 3:27 PM #

    Thanks Mr. Friday! Where was this progressive thinking 22 years ago? Wouldn’t you say major big time college basketball has many similar issues with AAU coaches, agents, etc. Hmmmm wonder how that relates to the UNC bball program, Mr. Friday?

  23. GoldenChain 09/20/2010 at 2:57 PM #

    I know all of us LOVE college sports or we wouldn’t be here, that said I am more and more coming to the DIII way of looking at things: no scholarships, if you can get admitted and make the team, you can play.
    Newsflash: even in DIII sports recruit and support your application. Just means you might get in with a 1100 SAT vs 1250.
    There is no way a non-qualifier could get on a team.

  24. Go Army 89 09/20/2010 at 5:53 PM #

    A sustained institutional plan to cheat has been exposed. I expect it is decades long (what was Lawrence Taylor’s major) and certainly not limited to football. Of course, they are in stall mode, hoping that they can contain the bleeding then stay ahead of the law. And sadly they will, they will have a crappy season and pat themselves on the back for “sacrificing” wins for their academic integrity. The System, the ACC and NCAA will say “well done” and they will get back to a more careful version of the same.

    Thank God for TOB and people who play by the rules.

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