Pack takes series from #1 Heels

NC State’s baseball team may be struggling this year and probably will not even qualify for an Atlantic Coast Conference Tournament berth…but this weekend the Wolfpack found a way to grab some ‘prideful’ wins.

To keep its slim hopes alive for a bid to the ACC baseball tournament, N.C. State had to pull off the improbable: win its third ACC series of the season against one of the country’s top-ranked teams.

N.C. State did just that, beating North Carolina 9-4 in the Sunday finale at Doak Field, giving the Wolfpack its first series over the Tar Heels (38-13 overall, 17-9 ACC) since 2005.

“When you’ve got rivalries, you throw out everything,” N.C. State coach Elliott Avent said. “They’re No. 1 in the country. They’ve got maybe the two best players in the country in Dustin Ackley and Alex White and a real good cast. … We’re just real proud of the way we played.”

Avent’s Wolfpack is now 9-18 in the ACC (.333) and 23-29 overall (.442) for the year. The two wins propel coach Avent to an overall .500 record against Carolina at 21-21 as the Wolfpack’s program is now 121-141-1 all-time against the Heels. As the N&O stated, Avent hadn’t won a series against Carolina since 2005.

What does the Pack need to do to squeak into the ACC Tournament?

N.C. State (24-28, 10-17) still needs a lot to go in its favor to avoid missing the ACC tournament for the first time in the program’s history. The league began holding end-of-season tournaments in 1973.

First, it needs to sweep Clemson in a three-game series that begins at Doak Field on Thursday, the Pack’s final series of regular season. The nationally ranked Tigers haven’t been swept in a series this season.

The Pack also needs UNC to sweep Boston College (12-13) and to have Virginia to take one game from Virginia Tech (10-16).

In other action on the diamond, NC State’s 6th (of 8) seeded women’s softball team was eliminated in the first round of the ACC Tournament by the very same UNC-CH Tarheels. Georgia Tech won the women’s softball title by defeated Florida State.

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22 Responses to Pack takes series from #1 Heels

  1. TOBtime 05/11/2009 at 8:02 AM #

    This team has had the ability to do this all year. I got a chance to see them play against Fla. St in the Saturday game. Except for boneheaded pitching during 1 inning they had a an awesome game. It seems their mistakes could be attributed to youth so here’s hoping next year they really break-out.

  2. BJD95 05/11/2009 at 10:02 AM #

    I’ll take any good news I can get at this point, especially when it involves the Holes losing.

  3. StateFans 05/11/2009 at 11:50 AM #

    It’s weird…we get all of this talk to discuss/highlight non-revenue sports and to ‘be positive’ and when we have something like this nobody seems to care very much.

  4. old13 05/11/2009 at 12:04 PM #

    ^ Won 2 of 3; beat the #1-ranked Holes; demonstrated what could have been; still mired in a mediocre season = conflicting emotions!

  5. GAWolf 05/11/2009 at 12:07 PM #

    I went to the game on Sunday. I was out of town for the other 2. We looked really good. It’s a shame it comes down to having to not only sweep a better team but to put our destiny in the hands of others as well. That’s not the season I think anyone around the baseball program expected coming into the year. Hopefully when some of these guys develop and mature this will be a really good squad.

    The defense made some key plays… one was a no out double play with men on second and third followed by a ground out to end the inning on Sunday. Those type of big, critical plays will hopefully become more the norm as opposed to the exception as these guys get some experience under their belts.

    Alex Soggard pitched really well Sunday and has the potential to have a really big RS Senior year next year if he can get everything moving in the same direction. He’s a big guy with some heat. He was bailed out by an out at the plate after an error on a pick off move to 1st at one point Sunday.

    I’m not sure what happened Saturday as I was at my nephew’s travel team baseball game up in Virginia, but it sounds like we had lots of control issues from the mound. I think I read we walked in three runs which was ultimately the difference in the game.

    On a Baseball America message board I saw where some SEC fan said that after this series UNC has been “exposed” to their weaknesses against lefties. We shall see.

  6. TheCOWDOG 05/11/2009 at 12:12 PM #

    Hold on. TheCOWDOG cares. Love that the Pack went after them this weekend.

    The fact that they didn’t fold early and battled late tickles the heck out of me.

    However, that being said, I am monumentaly disappointed that this club is about to do something no other Pack club has done.

    Having been part of 3 straight Tourney champs beginning in ’73, I have a hard time getting real gushy about takin’ 2 over Carolina. This club was sloppy and uninspiring this year. Yet, not often ya take a series from #1.

    Still, don’t let my negativity ruin an otherwise earnest post about Wolfpack baseball. Thanks in fact.

  7. StateFans 05/11/2009 at 12:12 PM #

    FANTASTIC perspective. Thanks so much for sharing.

    It is also great to get the perspective of some former players. I had no idea that we had so many former players here.

    Don’t you guys know that we are the ‘enemy’ and are nothing more than a bunch of lunatics?

    Regardless, we’re happy to have you.

    Quick question for you former players — what will happen to you when Bob Kennel finds out that you frequent SFN and that you may have a different perspective than him on some topics?

    Will you be ex-communicated?

  8. FuquayWolf 05/11/2009 at 12:13 PM #

    I’m glad to see that the Pack Nine could at least partially salvage an otherwise abysmal season by getting a series win against a top ranked UNC-CH team. Being far away from Raleigh now and not being able to really the follow the team, I’m not sure what the problems with this year’s team are, but glad to see that they have the ability to play at a high level. Hopefully, this can springboard us to a better year next year.

    Baseball is one of the sports that I think NC State can be very good in, year in and year out. So I’d love to see it get more publicity and always enjoy the coverage SFN gave it, especially DBP’s analysis. There is a ton of talent in the state of NC, and while Doak Field is not a palace of a ballpark, it’s not the complete embarrassment it was before the renovations. In fact, with a few more renovations, I think it can be a very good collegiate ballpark that completely meets the needs of the program for many years to come. NC State baseball has a proud tradition, and while this season has been a monumental disappointment, the foundation is there for this program to be a great asset for our Athletics Department.

    Speaking of the Athletics Department, I can’t speak for the rest of the SFN community, but I am always glad to see info on how the non-revenue sports are doing. I, like most everyone else here, will always concentrate on the revenue sports the most. But I want our athletics program to be strong across the board. To that end, when there is info about the non-revenue sports, it helps to keep me informed. Especially since usually the only other way to get the info is to read the propaganda pieces from GoPack, which only mention the sunny side of things.

    Consider this scenario: How would you feel if we were doing well in football and men’s basketball, but were at the bottom of the conference in everything else? I wouldn’t be as fed up as I currently am with the state of the Athletics Department, but I’d still be dissatisfied. It’s not the NC State Football and Men’s Basketball Department, it’s the NC State Athletics Department. It’s success (or more recently failure) should be judged across the board, and pieces such as this help to keep me informed so that I can form a proper opinion.

    Last note: I’m always happy to read the news that anything from State beat anything from UNC-CH. If we beat them in some intramural dodgeball tournament, I’d want to know about it!

  9. CStanley 05/11/2009 at 12:18 PM #

    This reminds me of the Les Robinson early 90’s basketball teams. Look like shit the entire year, then knock off a highly ranked Carolina squad.

    A true Wolfpack sports fan should have a hard time getting gushy about taking 2 over Carolina with the kind of season we’ve had to this point.

    Don’t get me wrong, it’s much better than the alternative, but this was kind of a damned if you, damned if you don’t series. As long as this type of season doesn’t happen again next year, I can live with taking the lumps of a rebuilding year, esp. with winning the Carolina series. But it’s very disappointing to not make the ACC tourney.

  10. GAWolf 05/11/2009 at 12:29 PM #

    Off-topic (Basketball):

    Some of the other outlets are saying we’ve got a good chance at getting Painter since he did not commit while in College Park. Then there’s the now famous “Anonymous” on WPH that is guaranteeing a Wall/Painter announcement to State early this week. Painter did not announce for UM this weekend, and allegedly Wall and Painter are now friends on Facebook as of yesterday.

    Run with it? Or stay away from it? There’s potential for this to be toxic from a conversation perspective.

  11. TheCOWDOG 05/11/2009 at 12:42 PM #

    Statefan: “Quick question for you former players — what will happen to you when Bob Kennel finds out that you frequent SFN and that you may have a different perspective than him on some topics?

    Will you be ex-communicated?”

    I’ve been in here for for 4 yrs. Still hold a generaly low regard for the state of the union, still belong to the Varsity Club, and still suffer the amatuer hour reunions in football and baseball when I’m up for it.

    Always good to see some ex-teamies.

    Would I be ex-communicated?

    Well, outside of those former ‘mates, guess I probably already am. 🙂

    Keep getting my invitations and renewal stuff though.

    * Note I did not attend all the functions surrounding the reunion at the Spring Game, but will probably do so next year as TOB had a hand in it this yr. and the WPC flunkies could only do so much to screw it up.

    From what the boys told me at the game that day, there was more recognition of formers and less begging from the money cartel.

  12. GAWolf 05/11/2009 at 12:46 PM #

    The game on Sunday was the Wilson show… not our beloved Russell (though he played well- turning the critical DP mentioned above)… but Kyle. I’m not sure what Kyle finished up but when I left in the 7th (pregnant wife was hot and it was Mother’s Day afterall) Kyle was 3 for 3 with 2 home runs, a single (RBI I believe) and was hit by a pitch.

    He also made at least one absolutely huge catch in the field running into the wall that saved some runs after we left.

  13. TheCOWDOG 05/11/2009 at 1:04 PM #

    Yes GAWolf.

    From what I’ve seen this yr; the Wilson from Texas JC stands a better chance of early departure than the Wilson from Va.

  14. Dr. BadgerPack 05/11/2009 at 1:31 PM #

    I shoulder the blame for the lack of more baseball coverage this year– I’ve simply had minimal time the last few months. Thanks SFN for getting something up on the UNC series.

    This team had major bullpen issues this year. And for a few weeks I think a lot of it had to do with playing 27 innings in one day prior to the Miami series; some may recall we were about to take game 1 of that set and the short pen couldn’t hold it. Baseball, especially pitching, is a funny thing when it comes to confidence. This UNC series may have helped to restore some of that confidence.

    Another bullpen issue was moving Gilheeney, who closed last year, into the rotation. The incumbent closer was moved to the rotation the previous year (McConnell) and that worked out, but not so much this year. But, the move worked out well for Gilheeney in that he deomstrated that he is worthy of a draft investment when that time comes around.

    A bright spot this season is the freshman class. These kids were really talked up by Holiday, and a lot of these guys have been as advertised. This core, along with the incoming class next year which is quite highly rated, will lay a nice 2-3 year foundation. If Holiday maintains his recruiting, the baseball team should be in great shape in the upcoming years.

  15. wufpup76 05/11/2009 at 2:35 PM #

    ^No worries, Dr. BP … Thanks for the coverage you are able to provide.

    “Speaking of the Athletics Department, I can’t speak for the rest of the SFN community, but I am always glad to see info on how the non-revenue sports are doing.”

    ^Ditto here. I run my mouth too much in the comments section as it is, so if I know little to nothing about how some of the non-revenue programs look and/or how they’re doing then I feel I shouldn’t comment (though it’s never really stopped me before). But rest assured SFN that I always read the entries and am geniunely interested in knowing more about our non-revenues. I can’t speak for anyone else, but I would guess that most of the community at least gives the non-revenue entries a cursory glance.

    As for this baseball season, I’m disappointed that the team has struggled so – but I can’t get too worked up or negative about it. They were a game away from the CWS last season, and I suspect there will be a nice rebound next season. If it looked like the squad was going to go into the basement and stay there then I would be very concerned – but I’m thinking that’s not the case. Just a disappointing season … hopefully no more, no less.

    You always want to strive for the best, but even the “elite” teams have their off years no matter the sport (I know, I know – the elite teams’ “off years” usually do not mean they finish at the bottom … but the point remains). Hopefully the baseball team will come out renewed and re-focused next season.

  16. TheCOWDOG 05/11/2009 at 2:43 PM #

    Again Dr. Bucky comes thru with some good stuff that even TheCOWGRINCH can’t dispute.

    There were several question marks coming into the season and a fair amount of turnover.

    Overall pitching was an unknown from the start, but no one could have expected
    the horrendous defense displayed further exacerbating pitching incosistancies.

    This year is an anomily in an otherwise consistant program.

    Barring a win against the odds, I’d fully expect to never see another State baseball team lookin’ in from the outside come tourney time.

  17. Classof89 05/11/2009 at 4:36 PM #

    Dr. BP: good comments–any thoughts as to the horrendous number of errors? (did we set any kind of school record for errors in a season–I sure hope so, because hard to imagine many years with worse fielding than this…) Is this also a function of the team’s youth?

  18. Dr. BadgerPack 05/11/2009 at 4:55 PM #

    It’s certainly the most errors in the last 5 or so years. Even worse was errors coming at very inopportune times. Of course a lot of these were contentrated around 3rd, 2nd and SS; which you find with any team. I wonder if increased errors around SS/2B was at all related to the continual infield shuffling. There were a few more combinations used this year than I can recall over the last several seasons.

    Three players- Dallas Poulk, Kyle Wilson and Drew Martin- combined for 56 errors. That certainly can’t be blamed on youth; 2 have been around for a while and Wilson had experience. I didn’t see enough of the errors to know whether the infield “gelling” or not was an issue.

  19. TheCOWDOG 05/11/2009 at 6:52 PM #

    Dr Bucky, if I may…..and you tell me when you tire of being refered to that con C-Dog.

    The boots that plagued the team this year were physical and mechanical by nature.

    Way too much back handing ( of the casual variety ) and lackidasical sub 3/4 arm throws that have a tendency to tail up and away from the person the throw is intended for, were a major cause of the glaring number of errors.

    Moving a hitter like K Wilson to OF should be perminant.

    Now back to DBP ( think anyone will get the Bucky ? )

    The one fishbone in my craw about Avent has been the shuffle you noted.

    But on the other hand, the way schols and commits work these days in the ” non-revs,” ( which is the last time I’ll call ’em that) ya gotta play ’em all. And give them the shot they up’ed for.

  20. Dr. BadgerPack 05/11/2009 at 7:04 PM #

    Thanks Cowdog. Dr. Bucky is fine with me; I’m sure a few others get that one… Just stick with what you like.

    I wonder how many lackadaisical plays occurred in the 7th inning onward. Gamecast always had too many “walk… error… walk… error… texas leaguer” for my liking.

    I think a lot of the shuffle this year was too many players that actually needed to see the field. Crap, Conner was supposed to be the best 5-tool prospect in the southeast (according to Holliday) and he was behind… 5? 6? guys?

    Checked out Happy Schnapps Combo by the way. Like ’em.

  21. blpack 05/11/2009 at 7:26 PM #

    Anytime we beat the holes it is great! That said, it is a shame the baseball team is in the position it is in regarding the ACCT.

  22. ruffles31 05/11/2009 at 10:15 PM #

    This is the first time I haven’t been to a State game in a few years and it is a bummer, but with my wife being pregnant and going to hockey games I haven’t had a chance.

    Congrats to the Pack 9 for winning 2 of 3. I wish I could have said that more often this year.

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