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Well we never know… What if Kansas offers he could demand to be released, he could decide to play overseas and take the rest of the team with him, he will probably tell Dennis Smith not to come… Omg Fire him now before he has a chance to recruit anyone else who may get an offer from anyone else.
I kid I’m going to chill and watch this all play out
Paki: Ya got me. XD.
I’m sayin to myself, “What does 490 mean?” I know 420, but…
So yeah, XD on me. 🙂
Getting the LOI signed less than 48 hrs after the UK offer and in spite of his coach’s comments Is as good as a STFU. Now anything can still happen even with a signed LOI but all things equal it is a pretty good day to be a Wolfpacker. He could have ended up being a 4-Star rated player except that he will stay a 3-star now that he signed with us.
Now anything can still happen even with a signed LOI
The number of bad things that could happen after signing a LOI is extremely limited.
Paki: Ya got me. XD.
I’m sayin to myself, “What does 490 mean?” I know 420, but…
So yeah, XD on me. 🙂
Yeah, I wish there was something insightful and fantastic behind it. Allow me to rephrase…
Ya damn instigator.
I train “instigators”! My name is Highstick for a reason!
"Whomp 'em, Up, Side the Head"!
Nicely done, CD. I have a suspicion we’re gonna get more good news in the next day or so. Rowsey from UNCA has cancelled his visit for tomorrow. That may be an indicator of something….hmmmm. Or it could mean Gott has lost his touch and lost out on him…which would be very UN stellar…I’ll take the first option.
Now anything can still happen even with a signed LOI
The number of bad things that could happen after signing a LOI is extremely limited.
I know that. Written sarcasm is hard to convey subtly.
Will Kirk still get the bump in ranking for UK being interested, even if only for a day?
Stellar is a hard standard to meet. Tubular, maybe? Narly? (or is it gnarly?) Or is gnarly only used for guys like this:
I think I’ve digressed. But I can’t remember where I started, so it’s hard to tell.
I am not sure that the title of this thread is called for. Why is the coach being portrayed in a positive way?
Cowdog, you just couldn’t help yourself, could you? Can’t just let people wallow a little bit. Gotta spoil it with good news.
Can anyone give an update on how he has been the last ninteen hours since this thread was started?
Maybe we can get a rolling daily “stellar” rating update?Good thread. Not great, but good.
A lot of people have unrealistic and unreasonable thread expactations.
In the last 24 hours, as far as I can tell, Coach G did not lose someone he did not have and did not lose someone he did have. Stellar or non stellar? 🙂
Are them the only choices? Stellar-esque, Stellar-ish, Stellar Lite aren’t even on the table?
Stellar thread BTW.
Are them the only choices? Stellar-esque, Stellar-ish, Stellar Lite aren’t even on the table?
Stellar thread BTW.
Maybe we can have a scale of “celler” to “stellar”
Nice thread title in good fun.
The front page thread got locked, but I did have some further research on the topic that should possibly go in it. I was about to post the following right as it got locked. I include it here not to continue the argument, but to give more data on the evaluations and to correct a mistake that Tau and I both made with respect to attendance:
Tau: The attendance #s are from the NCAA reports. I pulled them up quickly today. It appears they’ve not reported on this past year yet. I say this because the 2014 report is referencing the Finals being played in North Texas (Arlington) which is when UConn won. So move that spike in NC State’s attendance back a year. It wasn’t TJW that moved the needle. It was the hype from being preseason #6 generating season ticket sales. And people say that those silly rankings and preseason expectations don’t mean anything…..
The Forbes evaluations come out right after the NCAA tournament. So ones for 2015 talk about the 2014-2015 season.
Here’s how we’ve done recently:
-> Gott years:
– 2015: Not in the top 20. Not in the last 5 left out. Attendance not out yet.
– 2014: 12th in attendance — “NC State has nailed down a new multimedia rights deal (10 years, $49 million), agreed to a more valuable Adidas apparel agreement (four years, $7 million) and surpassed $1 million in licensing revenue for the first time in school history.” We were 25th in attendance.
– 2013: 20th in Forbes. 12th in attendance with 16,299 on average.
– 2012: Not in the top 20. No almost there list. 19th in attendance.-> Sid years:
– 2011: Quick search doesn’t include full stats, but we were 25th in revenue. We were 24th in attendance.
– 2010: Not top 20, no almost there list. We were 21rst in attendance.
– 2009: 18th in Forbes, 16th in attendance.But hey, when we hired Gott, our brand was awful and no one wanted this job. That was the narrative right? At that point, we were two years off of 18th in value and were still coming off of 2 straight years of top 25 attendance.
As for the whole “more ticket sales” argument, he year we fired Sid we had 13,184 in attendance on average. The first year of Gott, we had 13,779 on average. Let’s say we got $40 a pop for those tickets, with 16 home games that year it was ~$384k through the gate extra. Maybe we were more marketable elsewhere and thus generated more reveneue. Maybe with a new coach we had to do less discounting to get the fans in the seats. I haven’t looked at some of the other data recently (and am too tired now to go look it up) to tell. Regardless, I’ve never bought that future revenues from ticket sales argument when playing the college sports arms race. The only way revenues from ticket sales really go up is if the average price that a fan pays goes up.
The points I’m trying to make out of this are:
1) This is a good job no matter who is in it. Due to PSLs or the ESA, we’re going to pull in a lot of butts in seats. Due to the ACC revenue share, etc. we’re going to bring in a lot of media money.
2) The ESA is the single biggest thing that has impacted our attendance. The year we opened it we were #7 in attendance (under HWSNBN). We’d not been in the top 25 at Reynolds since V prior. Since about 1993 all the top 25 averaged more seats than we had capacity, which meant the bigger arenas were generating more draw.
3) Hiring Gott didn’t really move the needle up.
4) Year two really hurt Gott and the program. It’s not just some pessimistic internet people or the media who aren’t bought in. Our attendance is back down.
5) We may have slid back more this year.
6) There are more bigger picture stats than just the ones you mentioned.
7) You can look at these stats and draw a lot of different conclusions.
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