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03/28/2015 at 10:59 PM #83650
BJD95
KeymasterToo much time. Grant will hit the winner.
03/28/2015 at 11:00 PM #83651Wulfpack
ParticipantGreat game. Cats tough to beat.
03/28/2015 at 11:00 PM #83652BJD95
KeymasterWhat ballsy defense. Great f-ing game.
03/28/2015 at 11:00 PM #83653Texpack
ParticipantV would foul
Just told the kid that
03/28/2015 at 11:00 PM #83654JeremyH
ParticipantI thought Grant tried to do too much at the end there.
03/28/2015 at 11:01 PM #83655Wufpacker
ParticipantWell-defended.
Danggit.
03/28/2015 at 11:01 PM #83656Wulfpack
ParticipantCould be headed for a Kentucky/Duke final.
03/28/2015 at 11:01 PM #83657NCSU88
ParticipantFudge
03/28/2015 at 11:01 PM #83658Texpack
ParticipantMugging ND while they were trying to inbound
03/28/2015 at 11:02 PM #83659MrPlywood
ParticipantI would have called for the foul with 25 seconds left. Why let the clock run down? They make, you don’t have much time left. You foul, you have more control.
03/28/2015 at 11:03 PM #83660BJD95
KeymasterIt would have been 1-and-1 if not a shooting foul. Grab a non-Harrison.
Give the KY defenders credit, they knew Grant would take a three AND that he wouldn’t pass it away. Smart defending.
03/28/2015 at 11:05 PM #83661JeremyH
ParticipantIntentionally fouling there is pretty balsy, I only have seen one coach do that.
03/28/2015 at 11:05 PM #83662Wulfpack
ParticipantYea,UK was a tad smarter there at the end. Wiscy will certainly be no easy out as Kaminsky can more than hold his own in the post. But this UK team seems to get all the breaks when push comes to shove.
03/28/2015 at 11:09 PM #83663Whiteshoes67
ParticipantI like kaminsky but that ky front court will eat his lunch
03/28/2015 at 11:10 PM #83664JeremyH
ParticipantLuxury of having a 6-6 guard shooting overtop the d. Kaminsky might get pushed around in there.
03/28/2015 at 11:10 PM #83665MrPlywood
Participantpush comes to shove.
Pun intended? 🙂
03/28/2015 at 11:12 PM #83666Wulfpack
ParticipantDidnt eat his lunch last year and he can force them out. Tough guy to guard.
03/28/2015 at 11:17 PM #83668Whiteshoes67
ParticipantYeah, kaminsky will pull them out. Wisconsin will score. But ky will attack kaminsky on defense. I think blue rolls in that one by double digits
03/28/2015 at 11:36 PM #83669JeremyH
Participanthttp://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/early-lead/wp/2015/03/27/watch-the-assist-of-the-night/
Martin dunk is in there.
03/29/2015 at 12:50 PM #83674Fastback68
ParticipantAfter today’s games, watch or record CSPAN2 10pm. Book review – Cheated. TWX 220 channel ballpark.
03/29/2015 at 1:01 PM #83675BJD95
KeymasterIntentionally fouling there is pretty balsy, I only have seen one coach do that.
Agreed, but even though it’s both rare and ballsy, it doesn’t make it any less right, especially when it’s a 1-and-1. In that particular set of circumstances (Auguste with 4, Grant dead on his feet), ND can’t play for OT. Even if KY pinky swears they will dribble out the clock…you have to foul and get the ball back.
Maybe I will win back the favour of Jigsy and Va by saying its all about the maths, yo.
Even assuming the Cats make 1 or 2 FTs, you figure you get a look with a 30-40%* chance to win. There’s NO WAY you have that good a chance to win in OT (with the factors I outlined), and that’s not factoring in the odds of stopping KY on defense, which are nowhere near 100%, even playing it straight-up.
I don’t see where you lose that much by fouling on purpose (they ended up fouling anyway, due to KY’s huge speed/quickness advantage), whereas you gain BOTH time on the clock* and the 1-and-1 factor.
* Those odds go WAY DOWN when you don’t have time to run a real play. Kudos to Calipari for drilling his kids to know that Grant would keep the ball AND go for a three at that point, knowing they couldn’t play for OT. Say what you will about the man, he coached his ass off those last two minutes of the game. And if you ever wanted proof of how much defense matters…
03/29/2015 at 1:11 PM #83676BJD95
KeymasterAnother aspect where V was ahead of his time – mathematical intuition. Before advanced metrics, that’s essentially what V was calculating in his head, as a “hunch” of sorts. Poker players have been doing this for ages, whether they have worked out the exact calculations or not.
There’s nothing I hate more than doing things by “the book” when logic and math don’t support it, because coaches know they won’t get criticized for playing it safe. Drives me f-ing nuts.
/end rant
03/29/2015 at 1:59 PM #83680bill.onthebeach
ParticipantMaybe all this last play stuff, foul no foul, stuff …comes down to this…
How well the Coach trusts his players natural offensive or defensive instincts…
versus…
How well the Coach trusts his players to do exactly whatever impromptu craziness he comes up with during the timeout under the same amount of pressure as kids are feeling times ten.And then the Coach has to get this call right first…
Coaches choke too… just ask Mike Brey…
#NCSU-North Carolina's #1 FOOTBALL school!03/29/2015 at 2:44 PM #83683Wufpacker
ParticipantWhat’s the ‘Ville/Sparty score?
03/29/2015 at 2:59 PM #83684BJD95
Keymaster37-32, Yum!
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