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Word is the Texas boosters will force a Strong firing and a Herman hiring.
Strong in Raleigh would be fantastic.
No more excuses. Team must be bipolar. Same stupid, costly mistakes, week after week, and we continue to digress. Finally feeling the time for DD needs to come to an end. Horrible in conference record, and we are in year 4. But if change is coming, then please don’t waste money on a coach that is not proven at this level. We deserve better with the facilities we have. Losing is getting very old. Even if we show up Friday, and win. Change is needed. DD is a nice guy, but seems to be in over his head.
If the goal is making dd seem like a great coach, please ask for Charlie strong. Good grief. That would be epic stupid…but we are nc state.
Again – all evidence indicates that he should not be, unless we are trying to have him break Tom Reed’s conference record.
If we somehow beat UNC – I can see saying wait for a year, but I don’t see how he keeps his job with a loss.
Funny, if you were a freshman, all you have known is dave Doeren. He has a 3-13 record @ home. The good news is that going into friday he is 5-10 on the road.
If Yow still plans on retiring in 2018, no changes will be made until she leaves. We are stuck with DD – get over it and move on.
I don’t get the Strong love. He had his two over-achieving years at Louisville but they were bookended by 5 mediocre years, 2 at L’ville and 3 at Texas.
Well if we have to take another year, then DD needs to make some more changes. Special teams and defensive coaches, need improvements. Huxtable could have went out with Canada last year. And maybe we contract Dr. Phil for a once a week session, as the mental aspects of the game seem to plague us every week.
Comments after NO WINE….
NCSU84,
Yow does NOT intend to leave in 2018. Her contract expires on June 30, 2019. And she FULLY expects to complete…barring some unfortunate Health or other issues.
Doeren’s contract terminates on Dec 31, 2019. So we will not have to worry about the extraordinary expense of a buyout for him.
OK….having said that…
observations….some mine….some others…..some combined.
Some have mistakenly, ME INCLUDED, mistakenly thought that the WOOD CHOPPING comment was a Coach Doeren quip. It was HWWNBSOHA. I owe an apology to HWWNBSOHA. At least when we were “chopping wood”, we were taking down trees and had a mediocre records and went to the NCAA. We were not Paul Bunyan, but we did get by. Right now, the football team looks like Woody Woodpecker in comparison….Maybe I need to change one of my ring tones from the Fight Song to this….
`https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s637-5A9Gro
Ok Adventuroo,
I was off by 6 months, but I stand by my statements. Why would she “rock the boat’ if she is a short timer? If she is smart (which I know she is), you give those worries to the next AD. Not because you are lazy and don’t want to do your job, but because the new AD will want to select the new coach (ala ECU, UNC, etc.)
If she is smart (which I know she is), you give those worries to the next AD. Not because you are lazy and don’t want to do your job, but because the new AD will want to select the new coach (ala ECU, UNC, etc.)
So. Let me get this right. The best thing for Yow to do for the over good of the athletic program in general, and football specifically, is to let DD coach until a new AD is named 2 seasons from now?
You have got to be kidding. We have a coach who has won 3 conference home games in 4 years.
In case you haven’t noticed, the students have already bailed. Next year the talent looks pretty good, it looked good this year and was capable of competing with 10 of 11 opponents. However, recruiting has gotten consistently worse – I see nothing responsible, honorable or intelligent about giving the next AD a raging dumpster fire like all indications our program will represent if the next 2 are similar to the last 4.
You always look for those who deviate from the mean for your best evidence…DD has deviated but not in a good way.
It doesn’t matter what I think, and who knows next year we may make cosmic jump and go 5-3… irrational hope springs eternal.
Dapper Dave should be terminated after the unc game regardless of the outcome.
Leach will not leave WSU because they believed in him and he has pulled them out of the ditch.
State should hire the least qualified candidate-in the opinion of the decision makers at State-because their ability to hire and chose wisely is one of the worse on record.
McCallum
*kudos to troll on the picks. Fine job.
Hire Mike Leach
Well, I’m not sure the player’s fat little girlfriends would take too kindly to that.
Maybe we should look at some former coaches” sons. Holtz or Kiffin? Somebody who is more aggressive.
Choppack,
What we want and the reality of the situation are two different things. Keep in mind that any new hire would be entering the 2017-18 season as a first year coach with all of the “issues” facing a first year coach and you generally get a pass that first year. This coach would have to DRASTICALLY turn things around in the 2018-19 or face dismissal by the new AD in 2019. Now, are there coaches that would sign-up for this scenario – Yes. But are there any DECENT coaches that would sign up for this job at this point – probably not. These high demand coaches would go elsewhere with a more stable environment. Thus, by firing DD now, our plight of being unable to compete would continue with the wrong person at the helm. So you see, before releasing DD, one has to consider the next step and I cannot see a quality coach enlisting his services for NCSU with a looming AD retirement.
Is there any evidence that new AD’s come in and go all Donald Trump on coaches who are early in their tenure? I just don’t really think that would be an issue, especially seeing as coaches have these things called contracts.
The real issue, in my opinion, is would it be in our best interest for Yow another chance to find a coach after she hired fools gold the first time around?
AT. What you just stated is what many seem to be missing.
I’m gonna add one more, based on the 8’s I started throwin’ out post ECU.
Yow may wish to retire at the end of her contract, but that ain’t necessarily gonna happen.
The names on big buildings were shooting cannon balls off the bow in July of 2016.
It is now impossible to roll an 8 the hard way…Things will get dicey. See James’ post.
Here’s a thought or two. If you’ve got the money, pull the trigger, and make a respectable hire then a new coach is likely to get 3 seasons to prove themselves. 2017, 2018, 2019. This assumes Yow goes full term. If she retires end of June 2019, I have a hard time imaging new AD won’t let coach have a 3rd season. We have a history of cutting coaches not getting it done in 3, but if they are having an 8+ win season I have a hard time seeing a new AD cutting bait with what would be a successful coach based on our history. So the decision is basically do it now and give a new coach a chance or you get awkward with just 2 years to sell a new coach if you wait a year. If you believe we’ve got a good base of talent in house. Then if you make a good hire now, perhaps you get a recruiting bump. May lose some with regime change, but if the perception is you’ve gotten better coach then I’m sticking around hoping for better days. Obviously we’ve lost several games we could have won this year which may be an indicator that we aren’t far away. That becomes the key question – is it just bad luck, players not knowing how to win, or coaches missing the key ingredient that separates us from an 8+ win season, top 25, and top tier ACC presence.
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