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03/07/2015 at 9:21 AM #77830
pakfanistan
Participant^As soon as money is involved in any way, even the sale of hotdogs and beer, the whole cycle starts again.
Unfortunately the whole things can be summed up by the popularity of the phrase, “If you ain’t cheatin’, you ain’t tryin’.”
03/07/2015 at 10:13 AM #77835TheCOWDOG
ModeratorThere’s a rule of thumb out there.
Cheating 10 mph over the speed limit is not acceptable for anyone but the arrogant.
03/07/2015 at 10:17 AM #77836pakfanistan
Participant^I don’t even know what the actual speed limit is on 440.
03/07/2015 at 5:59 PM #78175YogiNC
Participant^I don’t even know what the actual speed limit is on 440.
60 MPH, but try that in all but the very right hand lane and you’ll get run over. 65 – 70 is the flow of traffic.
That being said I’m not sure how to address what you said here Bill. If two teams are playing and one team is cheating (Patriots for example), what is the reaction? One thing that drives me nuts about college basketball today is the refs allowing mugging without calling fouls. Is that cheating? As one that was brought up by a grandfather who was very stern about “how you played the game” I remember all too well paying a price twice because of something I did on the field/court that did not get called. One of those times I had to “cut my own switch”, an experience that is direction altering all on it’s own. It’s those things that formed how I “play” the game of real life, and always have. More than once I have made decisions about how I “play” based on the lessons he taught me. If that sounds self righteous it surely is not, it is me following in the ways I was brought up. I “played” with many, both on the field and in the classroom, and now in the workplace. How I play is a product of my grandfather’s lessons. It’s not a matter of pride for me that I strive to stay between the lines, it is who he taught me to be and I see no other way to play.
That all being said, I have difficulty dealing with those who have no lines, and lament that they didn’t have someone who taught them that lines are important. The importance is a clear conscience. When you cheat you live in fear of being found out, or you lament when you are caught, which is even worse.
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03/07/2015 at 9:08 PM #78249bill.onthebeach
ParticipantYogi… please don’t take this wrong way… but there’s a 50/50 chance your grandpa bent a few rules when he was young and didn’t want you to make the same mistakes…
My grandpa talked to me a lot about “character”…
Then I found out he had been a real “character” during his college days and later…
In the end, that’s all good.
————————Bigtime cheaters have no conscience and don’t fear getting caught.
#NCSU-North Carolina's #1 FOOTBALL school!03/07/2015 at 9:43 PM #78259YogiNC
ParticipantMy other grandfather, yep, real possibility, but not the one that raised me. His father committed suicide when the stock market crashed in 29 and at age 20 he had to be a father to his 3 younger brothers during the great depression and he pulled the family through it. Every time I go back to my hometown for one reason or another at least one person says something about how great a man he was. He’s been gone over 40 years and there are still days I wish I could talk to him. I’ve known more than a few men I considered to have great integrity but he is still at the top of the list. No offense taken Bill, if you had known him you’d know what I mean.
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03/07/2015 at 10:13 PM #78266bill.onthebeach
ParticipantYogi.. none taken… you nailed it… I just missed a generation…
Your grandpa didn’t want you to be like his father …
He was ‘protecting’ you from what he had gone thru as a kid…#NCSU-North Carolina's #1 FOOTBALL school!03/08/2015 at 3:15 PM #78303Heelh8r
ParticipantEverybody asking me now, “so what are they going to do to North Carolina?”. Like I know. What do you guys say?
03/08/2015 at 3:30 PM #78304pakfanistan
ParticipantCurrently leaning toward ‘nothing.’
Somebody else mentioned it earlier, but I think the sheeple are trying to ride it out until the NCAA implodes.
03/08/2015 at 4:59 PM #78308wufpup76
KeymasterSomebody else mentioned it earlier, but I think the sheeple are trying to ride it out until the NCAA implodes.
If it’s going to be another 8-year investigation then it’s probably a very viable strategy. A shame. They truly deserve punishment. At least their fraudulent persona got exposed for the massive bucket of BS that it is.
03/08/2015 at 7:16 PM #78360Heelh8r
ParticipantYep. I have been saying “Roy is toast” followed by “state fans say probably nothing because they are Carolina”. But I don’t really believe that. There is no way they get away with that kind of cheating no matter who they are. It’s not like they are flying under the radar. The whole country is asking. I can even see ‘Ol Roy taking the fall and riding off into the sunset. Which almost brings a tear to my eye. Will it really be as much fun without him around? If the Hole lovers are ready to run him off, then by all means I want him to stay.
03/09/2015 at 12:44 PM #78440PittsburghPackFan
ParticipantI can even see ‘Ol Roy taking the fall and riding off into the sunset.
I think the NCAA waits for Roy to retire, then slaps the Cheaters.
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