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07/18/2017 at 7:58 PM #123290
Wulfpack
ParticipantAtlantic Division
(First-place votes in parenthesis)
1. Florida State (121) – 1,108
2. Clemson (37) – 1,007
3. Louisville (9) – 843
4. NC State – 658
5. Wake Forest – 415
6. Syracuse – 362
7. Boston College – 283Coastal Division
(First-place votes in parenthesis)
1. Miami (103) – 1,065
2. Virginia Tech (40) – 932
3. Georgia Tech (9) – 708
4. Pitt (7) – 673
5. North Carolina (4) – 606
6. Duke (4) -473
7. Virginia -219http://www.theacc.com/news/florida-state-leads-acc-football-preseason-poll-07-17-2017
07/19/2017 at 9:06 AM #123291rthomas44
ParticipantAs useless as tits on a boar.
07/19/2017 at 10:25 AM #123292Pack1997
ParticipantIts not useless…..they normally get last place right.
07/26/2017 at 8:17 AM #123317PackofMac
ParticipantThey’ve used the copy and paste method for the Atlantic Division for what, 8 or so years now?
07/26/2017 at 12:58 PM #123320GoldenChain
ParticipantWell the one consistent thing in the post-Sheridan/post-V era, NCSU will underperform their pick.
07/28/2017 at 9:35 AM #123344VaWolf82
KeymasterRetitled this thread to serve as a repository for articles of interest. Hold on….this is slow going as I hold my nose while posting three links from Dave Glenn:
2 reason why NC State can expect big things from Airius Moore in 2017:
2 reason why NC State can expect big things from Airius Moore in 2017
Audio interview with Bradley Chubb
Bradley Chubb on NC State: “The sky is the limit for this team”
Can Stephen Louis, Kelvin Harmon become the ACC’s best pair of wide receivers?
Can Stephen Louis, Kelvin Harmon become the ACC’s best pair of wide receivers?
07/30/2017 at 8:30 PM #12336508/01/2017 at 2:50 PM #123378gso packbacker
ParticipantWell the one consistent thing in the post-Sheridan/post-V era, NCSU will underperform their pick.
I’d like to see the correlation of pick versus performance. Seems if most folks are optimistic, we under-perform. If most folks are generally pessimistic, we have a 50/50 shot at over-performing.
I did look at this for basketball last season, and over the past 38 seasons, on average, we under-performed if picked 6th or better. 7th or worse, we tended to over-perform.
Sendek: 10 seasons, 8 within +/- 2 places of preseason prediction
Lowe: 5 Seasons, 1 were within +/- 2
Gottfried: 6 Seasons, ZERO were within +/- 2.Yes, the league grew and changed, but I think that sums up Capt Wood Chopper versus the other two.
08/01/2017 at 4:19 PM #123379gso packbacker
ParticipantOk, so I had to go back and look at how football has done in comparison to their preseason predictions. I separated it into 2005-2015 (Divisions) and 1976-2004.
Sadly, and not surprisingly, the pattern holds, although not as much upside as we’ve seen in basketball.
Since division play began, we’ve under-performed if picked 3rd or better, BUT tended to perform as expected when picked 4 or lower.
Let’s face it, to finish in 3rd place you really need 5 conference wins and that is something that we’ve only managed 4 times since Sheridan said adieu.
08/02/2017 at 2:50 PM #123396VaWolf82
Keymasteryou really need 5 conference wins and that is something that we’ve only managed 4 times since Sheridan said adieu.
That’s as sad a commentary on Pack football as any I’ve ever read.
08/03/2017 at 2:15 PM #123400Wulfpack
ParticipantPreseason Coaches Poll is out:
3. FSU
5. Clemson
17. Louisville
18. Miami
22. VT08/08/2017 at 10:24 AM #123427VaWolf82
KeymasterStacked with experience and headlined by an NFL first-round prospect in Bradley Chubb, the Wolfpack’s front four could be the best symbol of the program’s steady maturation under fifth-year coach Dave Doeren. And so much of the defense’s success in 2017 will depend on how well that unit stuffs the run and hits quarterbacks in the backfield.
08/09/2017 at 4:52 PM #123428Greywolf
ParticipantStacked with experience and headlined by an NFL first-round prospect in Bradley Chubb, the Wolfpack’s front four could be the best symbol of the program’s steady maturation under fifth-year coach Dave Doeren. And so much of the defense’s success in 2017 will depend on how well that unit stuffs the run and hits quarterbacks in the backfield.
Bryant and Roseboro are set in the rotation and are referred to as “starters.” The emphasis is on finding 2 to 4 more for the rotation especially during the hot weather. A little help from the DBs in coverage will give the DL a little more time to pressure and as you say, hit the QB.
Having the DL pretty well set is allowing them to work on ‘details’ as Coach Patrick puts it. Same hold true for the OL.
08/10/2017 at 4:26 PM #123432freshmanin83
ParticipantCBS lists Wolfpack at 23 in its preseason ranking.
08/10/2017 at 7:46 PM #123435Greywolf
ParticipantThey’ve used the copy and paste method for the Atlantic Division for what, 8 or so years now?
I thought that for the Coastal, too, until I saw where they had the sleeping giant — 5th place. Duke & the Holes both had 4 votes for 1st place.
CBS lists Wolfpack at 23 in its preseason ranking.
In those ranked 26 through 130 the reader could vote on whether we thought any team was ranked too high or too low. UMass, ranked last at 130, had 56% think they were ranked too high. You couldn’t give your opinion on the top 25 but if we could, I’m sure the Pack would get a lot of “too high” votes.
All and all it’s a harmless diversion waiting for September 2nd — if you don’t let some A-hole try and shame you into not expressing your thoughts — even if they’re the SWAG method. 😉
08/10/2017 at 8:14 PM #123437Greywolf
ParticipantI can’t locate a site for this but I have heard the Pack’s O-line is ranked in the top 30 by Athlon.
I started watching Wolfpack football back when we played in the Southern Conference and football games were won mostly by the teams who dominated in the trenches. So now we are being ranked by many as being in the top 5 D-lines (vs. the run) and top 30 O-lines. Low and behold in the CBS poll we are rated 23rd.
I know Pre-season rankings don’t mean anything. Neither does it mean anything that they don’t mean anything. (I put that in for Owen92.) lol
IMO we are the team that nobody wants to play.
08/11/2017 at 2:25 PM #123442Greywolf
ParticipantThe Wolfpack flying under the radar:
https://www.si.com/college-football…m&utm_medium=social&xid=socialflow_twitter_si08/11/2017 at 2:56 PM #123443VaWolf82
KeymasterI can’t locate a site for this but I have heard the Pack’s O-line is ranked in the top 30 by Athlon.
#24 per:
https://athlonsports.com/college-football/college-footballs-top-50-offensive-lines-2017
Others of interest:
#3 – Clemson
#9 – ND
#14 – Pitt
#30 – FSU08/11/2017 at 2:57 PM #123444VaWolf82
KeymasterDefensive line rankings
https://athlonsports.com/college-football/college-footballs-top-50-defensive-lines-2017Clemson, FSU, and NCSU all in Top10
08/11/2017 at 7:58 PM #123445Greywolf
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Defensive line rankings
https://athlonsports.com/college-football/college-footballs-top-50-defensive-lines-2017Clemson, FSU, and NCSU all in Top10
Thanks, VA. Well done. These don’t mean anything but are mote authentic than the prejudiced ideas of some of us optimists.
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