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  • #129021

    VaWolf82
    Keymaster

    Well last week had a couple more big upsets by home ‘dogs and a few match-ups among teams at the top of the conference:[See the full post at: ACC Basketball Update (1-15)]

    #129022

    bill.onthebeach
    Participant

    ^^Nice work again… VaWolf….

    I’m thinking this would be a great week if…

    1. With two home games… The Wolfpack goes 2-0…

    2. With two home games… The HOLES goes 0-2…
    This would be historic as it would mean Clempsom won a basketball in Chapel Hill!

    3. Dook loses down in South Beach…

    GO PACK!

    #NCSU-North Carolina's #1 FOOTBALL school!
    #129023

    Pack1997
    Participant

    Don’t we want Duke and Clemson to keep winning as it helps our RPI? I don’t think many thought we would have 2 wins in the first 5 games. If we could win most of our home games I would be a very happy fan.

    #129024

    VaWolf82
    Keymaster

    Don’t we want Duke and Clemson to keep winning as it helps our RPI?

    If you’re thinking that we should pull for Duke/Clemson because State beat them, then that line of reasoning isn’t accurate. The results of the game against State are removed from the record when calculating your opponents’ winning percentage. So the results of the game have no impact on the opponents’ winning percentage portion of the RPI calculation.

    Let’s suppose that State has WF and UNC at home in the same week. If State goes 1-1, there would be little difference in RPI ranking no matter which team State beat.

    In ACC play, alot of the games are zero sum. When someone wins, then someone else lost…and we play the loser as well. Where it would make a difference is when one of State’s H/A opponents plays one of the 10 teams that State only plays once. In this instance, it would be slightly better for State’s H/A opponent to win.

    So except for Highstick (and anyone else who despises Clemson), we want Clemson to win as much possible and we’re free to cheer whenever Duke loses.

    #129025

    freshmanin83
    Participant

    VaWolf82 I don’t know home much time you put into your updates but it looks like a lot and is well done and appreciated. Thanks.

    #129026

    bill.onthebeach
    Participant

    Is it not generally true that the higher our ranking in the conference at Tourny time — the higher our RPI ?

    To put that another way — the more we win and the more the upper division loses, the better chance we have of dancing ?

    GO PACK!

    #NCSU-North Carolina's #1 FOOTBALL school!
    #129027

    VaWolf82
    Keymaster

    Is it not generally true that the higher our ranking in the conference at Tourny time — the higher our RPI ?

    To put that another way — the more we win and the more the upper division loses, the better chance we have of dancing ?

    I’m not sure that you’ve said the same thing two different ways.

    The more State wins, the higher the RPI ranking will be. Except when playing State, it won’t matter much who wins or loses in ACC play (with the exception of State’s four H/A opponents). As we saw last year with Syracuse (10-8) and WF (9-9), where you finish in the conference doesn’t directly impact your RPI OR your chances for an at-large bid.

    State’s OOC schedule and conference schedule will clearly affect the RPI ranking. But those are what they are and there’s nothing anyone can do about them now. In the end, it always boils down to the same thing: Winning is always good and losing is always bad.

    #129028

    bill.onthebeach
    Participant

    My point is, right or wrong, if the HOLES and Dook lost every game for the remainder of the season, that won’t materially impact our RPI, and it would improve our ‘eye ball’ tests, so there’s every reason to pull for the HOLES and Dook to lose every night.

    GO PACK!

    #NCSU-North Carolina's #1 FOOTBALL school!
    #129029

    VaWolf82
    Keymaster

    VaWolf82 I don’t know home much time you put into your updates but it looks like a lot and is well done and appreciated. Thanks.

    Thanks for the note.

    This week’s was easy. There was only one game on Sunday night and the outcome was nearly a fore-gone conclusion. So I input Saturday’s numbers to see how it impacted the trend graphs. Then I put in my expected Sunday night results and made the ACC standings chart. Then I had all day to write the article while watching football and State’s game.

    With three games next Sunday, it’s unlikely that the article will be up this soon.

    #129030

    Pack1997
    Participant

    Only in sports, is that true VA. In life sometimes losing, means winning. For example, the girl at the bar with the adams apple. You are too drunk to notice but fortunately some other schmuck goes home with “her”. You lost, but thats a good thing!

    #129031

    VaWolf82
    Keymaster

    there’s every reason to pull for the HOLES and Dook to lose every night.

    That’s a given no matter what the math would say. Personally, I include ND in that group except when they’re playing one of the Blues.

    #129034

    VaWolf82
    Keymaster

    EDIT

    I added a line to the Upcoming ACC Schedule section. The mid-week games don’t include any ACC games on Wednesday.

    #129036

    Packstrength90
    Participant

    Did anyone else notice that we outscored Va. by 12 while Al Freeman was on the bench?
    He breaks up any chemistry when he’s on the floor. Needs to come in off the bench for a while.

    #129037

    bill.onthebeach
    Participant

    ^Packstrength90
    no… Nice Catch…

    Now looking back that might be something between ALL-erik and Dorn as Dorn had the hot hand during the time I think you’re describing…

    GO PACK!

    #NCSU-North Carolina's #1 FOOTBALL school!
    #129040

    ryebread
    Participant

    VaWolf: I always enjoy your posts! Keep them up as the blog needs them.

    We could dance but we’re really weighed down by that non-conference schedule. That has to improve next year. For this year we can’t have any bad losses (i.e. Pitt) and need to get some conference road wins. Do those two things, get to 9-9 in league play and win at least one in the NCAA, the. We’re on the bubble with a chance for it to go our way. In year one of Keatts, particularly given all the roster flux, that would be fantastic.

    It is popular for the fans to pile on Freeman. I think they miss that he routinely gets the toughest defensive draw. He just needs to focus on driving more and not shooting threes. In the big wins we’ve had this year, he drove to the rim to score or pass. We need more of that as opposed to the “bad Al” who forces the action and shoots a lot of tough, contested shots.

    #129048

    VaWolf82
    Keymaster

    Here’s something I never expected to see this year:

    http://www.statefansnation.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/First-Four.jpg

    Captured screen shot from this take on bracketology

    https://sports.yahoo.com/bracketology-villanova-holds-no-1-155721898.html

    #129050

    bill.onthebeach
    Participant

    So far this week…

    Dook pulls one out of their a## in South Beach
    NOLES lose on the road…
    and Clempsom couldn’t beat the HOLES in Chapel Hill, if they played the whole game 5 on 4…
    but at least they scared the hell outta Old Uncle Roy…

    And if the forecasted TWO INCH snow in Raleigh doesn’t postpone the game… We need to beat the Deacs by 20 to savage this week…

    GO PACK!

    #NCSU-North Carolina's #1 FOOTBALL school!
    #129165

    choppack1
    Participant

    Nac state has some work to do.

    The good news is that the NCAA is evidently going to include Sagarin and Kenpom on their team sheets. This is good news for us as our ratings is higher in both of these rating systems.

    It’s going to be real Interesting to see where our ratings end up if we can finish the season with .500 record in conference. Our horrible ooc schedule is killing us right now.

    #129166

    freshmanin83
    Participant

    The win against WF moved RPI from 64 to 70.

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