State wins in Chapel Hill! Focus on OUR student athletes

After last night’s win in Chapel Hill, this website ran a headline and a couple of sentences that flippantly asked if UNC’s 1-3 record since Coach Dean Smith passed away could be the signal of the end of some kind of ‘pact with the devil’ because there would be no way that Jesus would allow so much cheating to produce so much success (and therefore pain for other fans) over such a long period of time?

While obviously made in jest, these comments drummed up a firestorm of controversy and drew hundreds of tweets and reactions from others about “class” from a lot of very self-important people who really wanted to share their opinions of disdain with the world. (I’m sure we all understand the irony of UNC fans suddenly wanting to talk about ‘class’ as it relates to their athletics teams.)

By way of a little education for some — the reference to a ‘deal with the devil’ carries with it an allusion to a long running joke ABOUT NC STATE that many of the outraged appear to be too young and too inexperienced to understand. You see, since 1983 (32 years for anyone taking paper classes) many NC State fans have made thousands of references and jokes asking if NC State / Jim Valvano sold our souls for the amazing Cardiac Pack National Championship run of 1983? In case you didn’t know, Jim Valvano has also passed on to another place, leaving nobody with the moral high ground of ‘not talking ill about the dead’.

Because the comment was obviously not meant to be taken literally and is more a tangential observation regarding ‘luck’ than is an actual view about Coach Valvano/Coach Smith, I’m sure that it was impossible to predict that so many people would choose to take such a comment so literally. If it was acceptable for State fans make these jokes about ourselves for 32 years then how could it be so bad to use the same logic and thinking in jest about our rival? This long running joke in the NC State community never garnered one iota of outrage from thousands of self-important victims…so, I’m sure that the author never expected such a response to effectively the same joke that has been running for 32 years within our own fanbase and with our own dead coach.

In hindsight, these comments unfairly drew attention away from the great work and that NC State’s hard working student athletes turned in on the court on Tuesday night. This was not the intent of the authors. Not that the truth actually matters to many who just like the live in a state of unhappiness and being offended…but, I’d like to point out that no member on this website has written a negative thing about Coach Smith since his passing, nor have we allowed negative threads to be started on our message boards (in which we once prided ourselves for allowing freedom of speech, no matter how much we might disagree with the speech). As we have shown in our silence over the last few weeks, we obviously believe that it is appropriate and respectful to allow a natural and time period to pass after Coach Smith’s passing to put aside criticisms about cheating and hypocrisies and rivalries. The joke last night was definitely ‘too soon’ for too many.

Now that we’ve got a little more clarity about that situation we are going to turn the page on a new day and put the focus back on the NC State student athletes who have been busting the rear ends in both the classroom and on the court this season. They deserve the attention!! So, please take a few minutes to get yourself in the right frame of mind by watching the highlights below.

For now NC State is squarely on the RIGHT SIDE of the NCAA Tournament bubble at a #38 RPI and a resume that has FIVE Top 50 wins. The 17-11 (8-7 ACC) Wolfpack holds EIGHT wins against the RPI’s Top 100 (with FSU sitting just over #100). Ten of State’s eleven losses have been against teams ranked in the Top 84 of the RPI.

We’d all like to thank Trevor Lacey for his class at the end of the game when he could’ve taken the opportunity to rub salt in the wound of the Tar heels with a snowbird dunk, but instead chose to take the high road and show some CLASS by dribbling to the corner. Seasoned NC State fans can’t help but draw the parallel to the (not only lack of) ‘class’ exhibited by Ty Lawson in the 2007 ACC Championship game vs another Tar heel team coached by Roy Williams.

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  • #75970
    Alpha Wolf
    Keymaster

    I’m old enough and I got the joke, but I can also see how people would miss the context too.

    Glad to see an apology and an explanation for those that need it. At this point lets all try to remember that we’ve all said things that isn’t get heard the way they were said, and that an explanation was usually good enough.

    #75977
    Charley2013
    Participant

    Would suggest moving on with UNC, beat them at their place in basketball (great chance to beat them twice), beat them in football badly. Focus on better programs as a measuring stick.

    #75978
    highstick
    Participant

    If you’ve never stuck your foot in your mouth, you must be “one lucky SOB”…Hell, I had my toes in my mouth at 6 months and my Size 11 stays close to my mouth on most days!

    BTW, any one note that Mary Willingham “folded the tent” and settled??

    "Whomp 'em, Up, Side the Head"!

    #75986
    McCallum
    Participant

    This thread has inspired me to fulfill a lifelong dream.

    I am starting a Ringo Starr cover band.

    McCallum

    1 AD (after dean)

    #75988
    bill.onthebeach
    Participant

    ^here comes the sun …
    the Beat goes on….

    and does anybody else want to hear from HELLO NIT Stan on this ??

    Humor is good…. even weird humor…

    #NCSU-North Carolina's #1 FOOTBALL school!
    #75989
    bill.onthebeach
    Participant

    Mr. Stick…

    The only question regarding MW’s settlement is this…

    Will they still publish the book, or did she get paid not to publish?

    #NCSU-North Carolina's #1 FOOTBALL school!
    #75990
    wufpup76
    Keymaster

    ^NIT Stan is a longtime favorite of mine.

    ‘HELLO.’

    #75993
    Wulfpack
    Participant

    SFN has stooped to a new low. Such a shame coming off a giant win against our heated rival, which all but solidifies our place in the Dance. Really disappointing. And really not at all interested in what you think about my (and evidently many others’) opinion.

    #76001
    TheCOWDOG
    Moderator

    ^ Let’s see. How did you put it to me a couple weeks ago?

    Oh yes. “Then why post at all?”

    Lighten up, bro.

    #76008
    McCallum
    Participant

    I long for the days of cold Budweiser, chewing tobacco and blasting all things unc.

    Some of you need to stay in the cul de sac and chill out at a Tupper Ware party.

    (to unc fight song)

    Cross western Raleigh ditches,
    lies a place called hell.

    Where 10,000 sons of bitches ,
    go to chapel hill.

    Now they’re bastards born and they’re bastards bred,
    and when they die, they’ll be bastards dead.

    So piss on carolia-lina, piss on carolina-lina, piss on carolina-lina.
    Cause we’re from STATE!

    McCallum

    1AD (after dean)

    #76009
    rthomas44
    Participant

    I am 65,class of ’73 and a wolfpack club member for 40 years,and that post was not worth the time it took to read it. If you can’t understand that, then you are just dumb and insensitive. Take pride in our players and their outstanding victory!

    #76011
    pakfanistan
    Participant

    Can’t we all just get along (;__;)

    t(‘_’t)

    #76013
    redcanine
    Participant

    I thought this community was more of a gang, like the one on “Always Sunny”. They are great! It musta been Mac who started that Devil/Dean thread, since he’s the most religious. The O’Doyle’s are pretty pissed about it though.

    #76015
    highstick
    Participant

    Not sure on Mary, Bill. My understanding is that the book “goes on”. The agreement is not public yet. I don’t think the “game is over yet though”…

    "Whomp 'em, Up, Side the Head"!

    #76022
    bill.onthebeach
    Participant

    ^The agreement has to be approved by the Federal Judge… officially…
    but I’m sure he’s already nodded his head… without making a commitment.

    Now it’s possible that the terms of the deal could be sealed as part of the agreement.
    But it’s doubtful that will stand up to the FIA… considering that a State Agency is one party.

    IDK.. beej is the attorney… but he’s tied up in court right now… something to do with a “gag order”…

    #NCSU-North Carolina's #1 FOOTBALL school!
    #76026
    pakfanistan
    Participant

    ^ Let’s see. How did you put it to me a couple weeks ago?

    Oh yes. “Then why post at all?”

    Lighten up, bro.

    Where’s that story about Dean? By the powers vested in me, on this day of February twenty-fifth in the year of our Lord 2015, do hereby authorize you to share it.

    #76036
    MP
    Participant

    Let the dead bury the dead.

    What do we envision as our maximum, our peak? This season and beyond?

    #76041
    tjfoose1
    Participant

    … in the year of our Lord 2015

    Now you’ve really gone and done it. Talk about offensive. What a hateful and insensitive thing to write, you bigoted Bible thumper you.

    #76042
    MP
    Participant

    ^ Oh well…

    #76043
    bill.onthebeach
    Participant

    What do we envision as our maximum, our peak? This season and beyond?

    The year we win our next NC… duh…

    #NCSU-North Carolina's #1 FOOTBALL school!
    #76044
    MP
    Participant

    Good to hear. Then all these posts and threads are “much Abu about nothing”.

    See everyone at the parade! And no, I’m not kidding.

    #76047
    Wufpacker
    Participant

    “much Abu about nothing”

    Nice 🙂

    #76048
    bill.onthebeach
    Participant

    Then all these posts and threads are “much Abu about nothing”.

    … or less … most of the time… duh…

    #NCSU-North Carolina's #1 FOOTBALL school!
    #76051
    pakfanistan
    Participant

    Now you’ve really gone and done it. Talk about offensive. What a hateful and insensitive thing to write, you bigoted Bible thumper you.

    This offends me. I am sending a strongly worded telegram to my congressperson at this very moment. Your post will not pass the politburo internet decency board and will be removed post haste.

    #76052
    MP
    Participant

    ^^ Well played sir. As usual.

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