Pack Pounds St. Pauls In Exhibition Hoops

The ’09/’10 edition of the Wolfpack opened their hoops slate last night by pounding head coach Sidney Lowe’s alma mater into the Reynolds Coliseum floor, 84-42 in an exhibition game.  While it would be somewhat foolish to take too much away from this game – St. Pauls is a D2 school and hardly resembles ACC competition – several positive signs were notable.  One of our longtime readers and commenters was in attendance and made the following observations:

  • Scott Wood is a real 3 point shooter. Granted, this was St Pauls, but he has a stroke and confidence that will be sustained against better teams, no doubt.
  • Julius Mays – I just don’t know. He reminds me of that Marcus kid that transferred from Tennessee to NC State, then transferred to Ga State.
  • Javi is our PG, period. He pushes, he leads, he looks to get teammates involved.
  • Horner did struggle from the arch. I counted 0-for-5. But he showed a good midrange and I thought he moved well.
  • Vandenburg is going to be a good player in time. He is very athletic for a 7 footer. Has decent hands and is a good passer too. He wont be a Tommy Burleson, but he can be a Craig Watts (only a few here will get that reference).
  • Tracy Smith is hands down our best player. If he gets injured or in foul trouble, game over. He gets into position very well and finishes as well as any NC State player in recent memory. Now, a lot of those shots he got wont be there against quality competition (St Pauls didnt have any player over 6-4).
  • Which brings me to my concerns: we were out-rebounded on the O glass by a team of short guys. We also had 19 TOs. No excuse for that. I saw some positives, but if we turn the ball over and get out-rebounded, we are not going to win many games. I didnt see a ball-hawking D. Yes, St Pauls had a poor shooting percentage, but I didnt see an aggressive D from us.
  • Really nice to be in Reynolds. Took my son to Mitch’s for dinner, then walked over to Reynolds for the game. Old school, and I loved it. Great to see the Longines clock again – which is still running, but didnt have the correct time. That thing just screams 1950s! Coach Harper, her husband and all the womens team was there showing support.

Seeing that Wood seems to be as good as advertised from beyond the bonus arc can mean nothing but good news for the NC State offense.  Having a credible threat from the outside forces teams to avoid packing in the inside scorers, and when they have to account for a player that can bomb it from long range it tends to make good offensive flow in the halfcourt all the easier to accomplish.

I think Mays will be fine over time, remember this is the first exhibition game and Mays didn’t consistently get minutes last year – at least enough to where we can expect him to pick up right where he left off, that is, the only really good thing on the floor in State’s ACC Tournament loss to Maryland.  Let’s reserve judgement on Mays until we get towards the Christmas holiday and even then, be prepared to change our minds as State rolls into its ACC slate.  We’ve seen that he can be a solid player, now he simply has to do so night in and night out in probably the toughest conference in all of basketball.

Robbi Pickeral of the News and Observer had this to say about Wood, and leaves us with some cause for concern, too:

Offense, it seems, comes naturally to Wood. His shooting stroke has been compared with former Duke star J.J. Redick’s, and he showed it early.

His 3-pointer with 18:16 left in the first quarter made it 6-0, then his back-to-back 3s about four minutes later gave the Pack an 18-2 lead. He finished the half 4-for-4 from behind the arc when he buried another one just before halftime. State held a comfy 44-22 lead at the break.

“I think the main thing was coming down and hitting my first shot,” said Wood, who also posted two rebounds and a steal. “That gave me a little bit of confidence, and I didn’t have to really worry about it as much. Once that first shot goes in, you’re not as nervous, and you get in a rhythm a little bit.”

Indeed, the only reason that rhythm was thwarted was because of back spasms. After playing 15 minutes in the first half, he played only seven in the second, without a shot.

“It might be from the dead lifts I’ve been doing,” he said of the cramps. “I might have to ease up on those a little bit.”

Hopefully, Wood will get past this muscle injury sooner rather than later.  State really needs him and his scoring ability if it plans to escape the ACC cellar.

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38 Responses to Pack Pounds St. Pauls In Exhibition Hoops

  1. jaybird80 11/06/2009 at 9:50 AM #

    I remember Craig Watts. He was an OK center that seemed to start the game with two fouls. He also hit on my girlfriend at a party, but I won that battle. 🙂

  2. durhamwolf19 11/06/2009 at 10:16 AM #

    I remember when we had Sudhop, Watts and Nevitt. 21 feet of players and not a great one in the group. No wonder Sloan yelled all the time.

  3. Alpha Wolf 11/06/2009 at 10:26 AM #

    ^ Anyone remember Nevitt at Edwards Grocery on Hillborough Street? The place had exposed rafters way up high, and he would sit a beer on top of them. No one else could reach that high without a stepladder.

    He also had a little Honda with the driver’s seat taken out. Chuck would drive the car from the back seat.

    Funny thing is, he has an NBA Title ring.

  4. Spacewolf 11/06/2009 at 10:34 AM #

    ^I saw Chuck walking behind Broughton Hall one day. He had on jeans that must have been bought off the rack, but had leg ‘extensions’ sewn in. The seam was just below his knees. Also had on a baseball-type shirt that said “I’m 7′ 5 1/4″ tall”. Yeah, he was tall.

  5. Alpha Wolf 11/06/2009 at 10:51 AM #

    ^ Never saw that, but I can believe it.

    Busy next couple of weeks for you, Space. Go ATLAS!

  6. crackdog 11/06/2009 at 11:15 AM #

    It seemed like a bunch of those turnovers came in the second half, with freshmen in the game, on long, inadvisable outlet passes. Vandenburg and Painter were perhaps the worse culprits, trying to throw over the top of the D and leaving it short several times. I expect that to change as they gain some experience.

  7. jbpackfan 11/06/2009 at 11:16 AM #

    This was my 3 1/2 year old daugher’s first trip to Reynolds, so I was glad there was a good turnout for the game. I have so many incredible memories of that place- maybe my kids will feel the same about the RBC Center one day.
    I watched Scott Wood at the Red Rally as well and you can tell he is great shooter, even by watching his misses. He almost never misses to the side- its either long or short, which indicates that his stroke is consistent and he has good balance. I like Painter’s athleticism and think he will be a really good player. You guys will, at the very least, enjoy watching this team play this year. There seems to be more intensity, passion and aggressiveness.

  8. Moose Hunter 11/06/2009 at 11:40 AM #

    In listning to the post game from Lowe, I thought it telling that he made the point of remarking that he loves coaching this years team. He said they like each other and play like a team. Best news I could hear.

  9. Oldwolf 11/06/2009 at 12:07 PM #

    I am old enough to remeber Craig Watts. His son played locally at Green Hop and is now on the roster at Elon –

    http://www.elonphoenix.com/profile.aspx?pid=627&sid=mbb&season=0910

    and is listed as a 7-footer slso

  10. PackBacker001 11/06/2009 at 12:17 PM #

    “It might be from the dead lifts I’ve been doing,” he said of the cramps. “I might have to ease up on those a little bit.”

    Great to hear he is in the weight room. Is someone in S&C watching to make sure his form is correct, or that he isn’t pushing too hard? Does this tie into the rash of injuries and questionable off-season conditioning that has been talked about on this site many times?

  11. pman27 11/06/2009 at 12:19 PM #

    Don’t forget that Richard Howell should help out Tracey Smith down low and is supposed to be a great passer with shooting range out to 18′. Hey, he’s a freshman but between him and Painter help is on the way.

  12. Thinkpack17 11/06/2009 at 12:24 PM #

    “Is someone in S&C watching to make sure his form is correct, or that he isn’t pushing too hard?”

    Meh…I don’t care how your form is. Even if you are dead lifting for reps your lower back is going to get worn out. Getting closer to actual game action I’m sure the S&C coach will start to go easy on the Power lifts.

  13. nycfan 11/06/2009 at 12:31 PM #

    Re: Turnovers

    * raw numbers: if State has significantly more possessions per game this season, you can better afford turnovers (so long as you don’t have more TO/possession than last year)

    * how many turnovers did St. Paul have? last season, State was -99 in turnovers versus opponents (435 NCSU -336 Opponents). That is abysmal.

    * last season, while Costner had by far the most total turnovers, Javi, Mays and Degand (in that order) led the team in turnovers/minute played (and Javi sort of “owned” the stat) — their turnover ratio is what I think is most critical to State this season

    * the offensive rebounding sounds bad, but is usually skewed by a team shooting as terribly as St. Pauls did; that said, State was -20 in offensive rebounds last season, another awful stat that needs correction

  14. ncsufan13 11/06/2009 at 12:46 PM #

    I was pretty happy with most of the game, but Dennis Horner was really bad. He has never played well in the past, and I think his abilities are not going to improve anytime soon. Its too bad we don’t have enough depth to replace him with someone. I’d rather have a freshman in there than Horner.

  15. Thinkpack17 11/06/2009 at 12:55 PM #

    Yeah I saw Dennis missed all his three pointers. We all know he is not a post player, but that’s why he is in there. He is in there to stretch the D and get the 4 man out of the paint to give Tracy some room. With that said you have to knock down your jumpers to make that happen. I still like him on the floor. He has a calming effect, he knocks down his free throws (except for those two games last year), and most importantly he makes the easy pass and doesn’t turn the ball over. Maybe his shooting stroke has suffered a bit from this “new body” I’ve been hearing about all summer.

  16. PackMagic83 11/06/2009 at 1:15 PM #

    I didn’t see Dennis Horner play last night, but I wouldn’t dismiss him based on one game. I looked at the stats for the last 8 ACC games of last season. For those 8 games Horner averaged 10 ppg, while Costner and Fells averaged 8 and 9 ppg respectively. Of course, everyone was talking about how they thought that Costner had already checked out for the season. Since Tracy Smith averaged 14 ppg and Javier Gongolez averaged 11 ppg for the last 8 games, with the incoming freshmen I don’t expect us to do any worse than last season and hopefully better.

  17. KChill 11/06/2009 at 1:36 PM #

    Chuck Nevitt prob wore that shirt b/c he got tired of people asking his height. I played poker in AC next to a kid who was 6’10, and he was asked that question at least 5 times while he was next to me. I played with Chuck in Carmichael once, all he had to do was lean forward to dunk the ball.

  18. theghost 11/06/2009 at 1:46 PM #

    good info on Wood and Vandenburg – anybody see anything on Howell and Painter – good or bad?

  19. Tiew 11/06/2009 at 1:47 PM #

    Horner looked pretty good shooting mid ranged jumpers and free throws.

    There were a couple of times where St. Paul got the rebound off their own free throw, one of which they only had the shooter and one other guy down fighting for it. Kind of scary.

    Degand looked like he was trying to be too flashy to me. But I have to admit he fought for rebounds well.

  20. ADVENTUROO 11/06/2009 at 1:48 PM #

    Last night at Reynolds was really cool…despite recovering from a cold, I really enjoyed it. My wife made a comment about the team being “fun” to watch….ironically, we heard other fans make the same comment as we walked through the parking lot.

    Team looked good, even poised….dast I say that….albeit against the St. Pauls. They played with zest and enthusiasm and looked cohesive, even though Sid changed the line-up quite a bit. Davis looked a little timid…like he was posing for his JumboTron shot, but he loosened up.

    Hope this is a sign of things to come. Even though Reynolds was not full (about 2/3’rds) it was raucous and loud. Great atmosphere.

    OK…SFN UNITE. I have seen the WRAL article on Doc Hendley and his WineToWater efforts. I read up on it and it is quite inspiring. Here is a link to the CNN site. You can visit WRAL.com and watch their piece on it or read it at CNN. Please consider casting a vote for Doc Hendley.

    http://www.cnn.com/SPECIALS/cnn.heroes/

    Thanks,

  21. smfrank 11/06/2009 at 1:54 PM #

    While 19 TO’s sounds horrid, 5 of those came from Jordan, 3 from some guy named Enrico. Javi’s 3 is worrisome, same with Johnny Thomas’s 3. Other than that, TO’s were relatively sparse. But that’s just the box score. I didn’t see the TO’s, but if they were agressive and/or your everyday occasional walk/bad pass – that’s live-able.

  22. Tiew 11/06/2009 at 2:04 PM #

    Johnny Thomas actually came off the bench pretty late in the game, not sure what that means. He made some nice athletic moves. His three turnovers were three passes to Vandenberg. Those two were just not connecting.

    I remember one of Javi’s TOs being a very aggressive pass. I think it was catch able, can’t remember who let it go by.

    Now I remember, Javi also had a palming call. I think he does that a lot. Not sure how often he’ll get called for it.

  23. theghost 11/06/2009 at 2:13 PM #

    Liked these quotes from the university’s website:

    Wood – “with these arms, I have to be in [the weightroom] more than everybody else.”

    Lowe – “I think we will spend some time working on rebounding between now and next week. We will have a lot of box out drills.”

    Looking at the box score, TO’s and boards are concerning, 24 assts is positive. Would like to see more than 9 steals against that team too.

    I see that Vandenburg had 5 TOs, Kufuor 3, and Johnny Thomas 3, looks like 6 were in the last 2 minutes. Only 7 were from the starters/painter/degand/mays. Nice line from painter – 20 min, 4-6, 8 pts, 6 boards, 1 TO.

    Will Josh Davis get PT? I had assumed he was a scout teamer, since he wasn’t broadly recruited…

  24. Thinkpack17 11/06/2009 at 2:13 PM #

    “anybody see anything on Howell and Painter”

    Howell is still injured.

    “Now I remember, Javi also had a palming call. I think he does that a lot. Not sure how often he’ll get called for it.”

    If they start calling that any tighter Ryan Harrow may be in a bit of trouble.

  25. ncsukyle430 11/06/2009 at 3:19 PM #

    How is St. Paul’s Sidney Lowe’s alma mater?

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