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  • #127021

    TheCOWDOG
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    Can a football season be dissected down to 4 plays? No. No one in their right mind would do such a thing. 1: USC- First play of the campaign is a 90 y
    [See the full post at: Well…That Went By Fast.]

    #127022

    McCallum
    Participant

    Pretty clear breakdown.

    Looks closer than further away.

    1) 90 kickoff and 57 yd TD pass against SC. Three turnovers were no help.

    2) Punt return against Clempson and long TD run.

    3) Great play by lucky sperm club linebacker at goal line.

    5 plays right there that are the difference between 7-4 and 10-1.

    State was mauled at ND. They were never going to win that one.

    McCallum

    #127023

    Pack78
    Participant

    CD-Love this recap every time you post it before this game-let’s ALL get our game faces on-GO PACK!

    #127024

    choppack1
    Participant

    Yep. Agreed Pack78.

    And yes, close but no cigar this year. Like I said in an earlier thread – the good news is that there has been no Louisville meltdown this year. We can get there, Saturday is huge for a ton of reasons. But 6-2 while another is 1-7 is just another.

    #127049

    highstick
    Participant

    I always want to confuse this game with the one the year before at State when I was in my last semester before graduation. Think that was the day that Wilder and a young fellow named David Thompson came over to my apartment before the game…Wilder’s brother and future wife were staying with me that weekend.

    Next year, I was still in Raleigh working and married for 3 months.

    "Whomp 'em, Up, Side the Head"!

    #127050

    highstick
    Participant

    I always want to confuse this game with the one the year before at State when I was in my last semester before graduation. Think that was the day that Wilder and a young fellow named David Thompson came over to my apartment before the game…Wilder’s brother and future wife were staying with me that weekend.

    Next year, I was still in Raleigh working and married for 3 months.

    I also recall this was the night I decided to take a rest at the afterparty at my wife’s apartment, took a nap on the bed, rolled off between the bed and wall and they didn’t find me for 3 more hours!!

    "Whomp 'em, Up, Side the Head"!

    #127052

    YogiNC
    Participant

    CD, loved reading that once again. This time though I came away with a new tidbit of info. The data digger in me kicked in and I’m pretty sure I’ve nailed down who is behind the nom de plume, and I came away with a whole new level of respect. There is a large difference of supposing who someone might be and actually knowing.

    Graduating from HS in 72 I had two teammates that played for Clemson and one that played for the Gamecocks. I gave one of them a call last night to reminisce and when I called your name his reaction was “what a tough SOB that guy was”. High praise from a guy who had creosote on the sides of his helmet from slamming into a light pole to get warmed up for practice. My favorite play was fake 34, 21 cause I knew when I hit that hole it was going to be open.

    Smarter than the average bear

    #127053

    bill.onthebeach
    Participant

    1972 — If we knew then what we know now…

    We’d all be in jail or worse, maybe President…

    There’s poetry in sports, especially on the gridiron and today we’ll find out whether this football season ends as a
    — Greek Tragedy
    — Divine Comedy
    — Paradise Lost
    — Blank Verse
    — Moral Epic
    — Carpe Diem

    I’m thinking if we come out strong on both sides of the line, get up a couple of TDs, we’ll smite them with the sword and vanish our enemies in an absolute defeat and cleanse ourselves of the taint of this season’s WhatIFs?? and WouldaShouldaCouldas!! and silence the lambs…

    If not, we’ll probably need a couple of fields goals to claim the moral victory….

    The underlying theme today may well be…

    “When you’ve got nothing to lose, you risk everything….
    and when you’ve got everything to lose, you risk nothing…

    We shall see…
    GO PACK!!!

    #OverTwentyYearsCheating?
    #127054

    TheCOWDOG
    Moderator

    Yogi, I knew a lotta guys from Clemson and USC, albeit mostly from the baseball side. A couple played both, too.

    Fine day for football. Hines passed the concussion protocol, and hopefully makes it through unscathed. He is truly the difference maker.

    Did Doeren and staff work the players’ state of mind well enough this week? Were they able to shed the baggage of the 1-3 stretch? I look at these kinds of indicators more so than X and Os. Execution…Sharp and focused. Above all, belief.

    #127055

    YogiNC
    Participant

    Mark Heniford was the guy I spoke of. He played catcher for Clemson in 73, not first string though, mostly pinch hit. He never made the traveling squad so he stuck with football. Undersized LB but would take your head off if he caught you blindsided (I know this from personal experience in practice). He ascribed to the Jack Lambert school of thought that QBs should wear a dress. His disdain for running backs was almost as intense. Also played right guard in HS. His comment last night was that you and he locked horns more than once in the 75 game, and that the Pack killed them that day.

    Smarter than the average bear

    #127056

    TheAliasTroll
    Participant

    7-3 against the Cheaters over the past decade.

    Season	Site	Final	Line
    2007	home 	31-27 	-3.5
    2008	away 	41-10 	11.5
    2009	home 	28-27 	5
    2010	away 	29-25 	2.5
    2011	home 	13-0 	3.5
    2012	away 	35-43 	7.5
    2013	home 	19-27 	5
    2014	away 	35-7 	6.5
    2015	home 	34-45 	5.5
    2016	away 	28-21 	9.5
    2017	home 		-16.5

    Interestingly enough this is only the 2nd time this decade we are favored. Last time we were favored by a big number (-17.5) was 2003 when Phil was running the show. We won that game, but we didn’t cover.

    My favorite win of the last decade is easily the 41-10 gem. Being a 11 point dog and just coming out and embarrassing them made for some sweet times at work that following Monday.

    #127058

    YogiNC
    Participant

    Sorry CD, I had you pegged for that Horvance kid. A little too far to the west, huh? No matter, you were pretty stellar too!

    Smarter than the average bear

    #127059

    TheCOWDOG
    Moderator

    I figured so, Yogi. I didn’t tangle with many LBs.
    Pat Hovance from Alliance, Ohio!

    #127065

    JaxPackMan
    Participant

    I don’t disagree with the plays you point out. What impact do you think not having a reliable place kicker has had on play calling?

    State’s Defense has been really good, but why does it seem that every opponent has a player who sets a school/personal record? I’m thinking of BC’s running backs, ND’s running back, and Wake’s pass receiver.

    JaxPackMan
    NCSU class of '76
    Jacksonville, FL

    #127291

    PackerInRussia
    Participant

    Cowdog I hope the boys in red keep winning so that you’ll keep posting that story each year. Enjoy it every time. Either I noticed some new things or you added in a few extra details. A few new wrinkles for the big game?

    #127300

    redwolf87
    Participant

    This was and is a great, great story. Thanks Cowdog.

    Yesterday was one of those games you have people sitting behind you that only stir up angst. And they are, for lack of a better word, the very epitome of the “Walmart Kerliner Fan”.

    A half-dozen or more. I could have made a doc off of these guys. They were hooting and hollering and invoking Ric Flair.

    After Hyem’s second TD, they left. Hated that.

    #127310

    McCallum
    Participant

    I gave one of them a call last night to reminisce and when I called your name his reaction was “what a tough SOB that guy was”. High praise from a guy who had creosote on the sides of his helmet from slamming into a light pole to get warmed up for practice.

    Reputation is worth 3 divisions.

    I would tap on my eye ball to stop the blink reflex from initial contact. Hitting walls, butting ones head on steel beams etc look darn stupid in hindsight but it did send a message of DEDICATED FOCUS on the subject at hand.

    That aside, Hines was the real difference maker IMO. The size of the receivers coupled with the difficulty of covering JSAM could leave the field wide open for Hines. His absence was noticeable.

    McCallum

    #127316

    choppack1
    Participant

    In only one of our 4 losses was Hines completely available and relatively healthy.

    (Let’s point out here that was really impressive for Hines was how he grew as a runner from the beginning of the year.

    It’s also worthy of note that when the coaches knew he wouldn’t be relied upon for his usual role (Clemson) – the staff did a great job gameplanning. This reinforces my theory that our guys can prep pretty well but have a hard time adjusting real time. (Of course, as Clemson showed – you lose a key guy and things can go south in a hurry.)

    #127318

    YogiNC
    Participant

    Saturday it was a joy to see those last 3 TDs. The really funny part of the second one was 2 DBs thought they had him and yet it was strangely like the coyote and the roadrunner. Hines gave ’em the beep beep and they were grabbing at a vapor trail.

    Smarter than the average bear

    #127327

    freshmanin83
    Participant

    I hope Hines comes back next year.

    #127334

    choppack1
    Participant

    Yea – we have a few guys who I’m concerned about…

    Finley
    Hines
    Roseboro
    Richardson

    Those are the obvious ones. I think the easiest “I need to go ASAP” is Richardson. Next of those is Hines – although I think he can improve his stock significantly if he can make through an entire year healthy. His choice is most difficult though because if he gets injured next year, he’ll be labeled as fragile.

    #127337

    bill.onthebeach
    Participant

    Hines ain’t gonna make it thru a 12 game season at the level we want to play IF DD doesn’t get us another Old Testament Tailback…

    I told ya’ll 6-7 games ago, Hines wasn’t built to run the ball 20-25 times a game, most of those between the tackles…

    Hell no… I don’t want to see him go pro…
    but whoever else is whispering in his ear knows what I saying about his size and our lack of a true up the middle tailback and that may be the deciding factor…

    POP!!!

    #OverTwentyYearsCheating?
    #127339

    ryebread
    Participant

    We finished at 8-4, which is exactly what I thought before the year. We lost to S.Carolina and WF, which I didn’t expect, but beat FSU and Louisville. Overall, that’s a solid season.

    DD should get his automatic 1 year extension but nothing more. I hope he’s back next year, but he may put his hat in the ring for other jobs. If he does and gets hired, then so be it.

    #127345

    TheCOWDOG
    Moderator

    Thanks for the accolades!
    Not mine…Theirs.

    All-ACC selections:
    1st Team
    Chubb
    Hines
    Jsam
    2nd Team
    Harmon
    Adams
    Richardson
    3rd Team
    Finley
    Hines (SP)
    Honorable Mention
    Cole
    Bradbury
    Hill

    #127346

    freshmanin83
    Participant

    Can Hines add enough muscle in the off season to help him make it through next year healthy or is his frame just not big enough.

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