Gottfried begins ‘second act’

I saw this article on Rivals.com and then noticed that Backing the Pack had covered it a little. So, we’ll throw you that way with BackingthePack’s set up, “This feature from Rivals covers a lot of territory with which we’re all very familiar. It even includes a handy breakdown of State’s win-loss records since 1991. Instinctively I reached for my television remote and eyed the nearest window. Old habits and all that. (As of this writing I’ve yet to go through with the defenestration.)”

“It’s a program that has the potential to be as good as anybody in the country,” he says. “That’s the way I’ve always viewed it. Since I’ve been here, I think those things have been confirmed. I think we can be as good as anybody. There’s no inherent reason why North Carolina State can’t at some point in time be as good as anybody in the country.”

Gottfried’s words should boost the confidence of a fan base that took plenty of hits during this coaching search. Although North Carolina State won national titles in 1974 under Norm Sloan and 1983 under Jim Valvano, the Wolfpack’s recent struggles have led to debate over how good a job this is. Skeptics argue that the tremendous success of neighboring rivals Duke and North Carolina gives NC State fans unrealistic expectations.

“People might say sometimes that it’s a hard job,” Gottfried says. “Show me an easy job. I don’t care where it is. I don’t know if there is an easy job. Everything’s relative. For us, where we’re located is an advantage. It’s a plus. It’s something we’ll never view as a negative.”

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35 Responses to Gottfried begins ‘second act’

  1. Defenestrate 06/25/2011 at 11:08 AM #

    nice use of my username1

  2. Defenestrate 06/25/2011 at 11:09 AM #

    nice use of my username!

    and Gottfried FTW

  3. packalum44 06/25/2011 at 11:42 AM #

    Gott certainly says all the right things. He’s much more charismatic and charming than Lowe. He’s also more intelligent. I’m optimistic about his leadership. I think he can break the Elite 8 ceiling he hit at Alabama, especially considering the elite staff and resources he has at his disposal.

  4. BJD95 06/25/2011 at 11:57 AM #

    At least he doesn’t have a “loser’s mentality” – I’ll give him that much. He still better win, though. :)

  5. sundropdrinker13 06/25/2011 at 12:42 PM #

    It sounds like you are slowly warming up to him BJD95. And I emphasize SLOWLY lol

  6. packalum44 06/25/2011 at 1:06 PM #

    BJD knows something I don’t. I guess we were close to landing Miller but Yow botched it somehow. Close only matters in horseshoe and hand grenades.

    For what its worth, my intuition tells me Gott, AND STAFF, are a hell of a backup plan. I mean seriously…we could have done much much worse (see other coaching searches this past year).

    I think Gott, AND STAFF, are better hire than Shaka – who’s a complete idiot for not taking the job but it MAY turn out being a favor to us. Miller/Barnes were only A-list candidate we had a serious shot at in my humble speculative shove it up by a** opinion.

  7. 61Packer 06/25/2011 at 1:28 PM #

    Just what we wanted (and needed): a handy breakdown of State’s (basketball) win-loss records since 1991. Without looking at these numbers, I can tell you that we stunk. Why slice and dice an old turd? In fact, the more you stir it, the worse it stinks.

    So Gott is more inteligent than Lowe, as well as more charismatic and charming. That’s nice, but how many bonus points is that going to be worth this coming season when ACC road games begin? Only WF and maybe GT will be a “gimme”; most of the other teams will be better than last year, mainly because the overall ACC coaching level is on the rise.

    The first Elite 8 ceiling Gott had better break is the Pack’s ACC win total for next season. I really want to jump on this bandwagon, but I’ve bought tickets for the last two of them, and I’m not ready for a 3rd ride down that same road.

  8. drgreenhouse 06/25/2011 at 1:41 PM #

    ^Close only matters in horseshoe and hand grenades.

    And beautiful women – Don’t forget that one

  9. MrPlywood 06/25/2011 at 3:14 PM #

    My bluesky scenario – UNX football gets hammered and Butch finally gets the boot, AFTER the Pack stomps them for 5 in a row – then Gott leads a bball resurgence and exceeds expectations by finishing in the top 3rd of the conference and getting the Pack to the NCAA tourney…

  10. ryebread 06/25/2011 at 3:33 PM #

    Hmmm.. Maybe it is just me, but I always thought SL gave a great interview and said a lot of the right things. I also thought he had a pretty good basketball mind. In fact, I think his interviewing ability paired with his basketball mind is why he’s had 3 high level head coaching gigs despite the fact that he’s done almost nothing with those jobs.

    I think this is just the natural cycle of any new relationship. In the beginning some are skeptical. As they warm, they look for things to like. When they like, the good things seem unique. As the relationship sours, the little things seem much bigger.

    I remember a lot of the same comments when we hired SL. We saw how that turned out.

    For me, I’m waiting to see results on the court. I appear the first steps look promising, but I’ll believe it when we win. There are a lot of red flags about this hire, and while Bobby Lutz makes me less concerned about some of them, there are still many questions.

  11. runwiththepack 06/25/2011 at 6:38 PM #

    ryebread,
    i agree with you. I, for one, haven’t forgotten what Sid Lowe did for us in’83 and that it wasn’t HIS fault NCSU clustered the coaching search when he was hired. DON’T TAKE IT OUT ON HIM! Jesus! You might say we were lucky Lowe took the job and left Gott with MUCHO to work with. Things could have turned out much worse (see UNC-CH f-ball).
    He was simply too far behind the learning curve (remember, he never coached college b-ball before). I don’t see anything constructive in comparing our new coach to Lowe. Instead, compare the new coach to … well, YOU decide.
    I really want to see Lowe feel like he’s still got a BIG welcome into the Wolfpack parlor, which he still richly deserves, and which I don’t detect from some of these posts. I wish him nothing but the best.
    AND, I too am very hopeful for Gottfried, who I anticipate is HIGHLY motivated to put his sour Alabama coaching stint behind him. And, it seems that he understands how he can best do that – kick some ACC ass!! I can just imagine Pack fans going bananas again this season when Gott gets us back on track.

  12. runwiththepack 06/25/2011 at 6:51 PM #

    i.e…
    State fans may someday be able to look back on Lowe’s tenure and see that he laid an excellent groundwork for Gott, even if he couldn’t get enough W’s himself. Let’s hope so.

  13. Gowolves 06/25/2011 at 10:26 PM #

    OK let’s keep things in perspective. First I do appreciate all Lowe did for us. He is a gracious, good man. He brought us another championship. That is where it ends. His coaching gigs in the NBA were handed to him when someone else got fired. He coached a new franchise that was never going to win. So yes he was behind the eight ball and given crappy opportunities.

    In college his teams never had any consistencies. He threw kids under the bus. Of course some probably deserved it. But that was ultimately his fault because he didn’t run a tight ship.

    I genuinely like the guy but he is not cut out to coach.

  14. Master 06/25/2011 at 11:17 PM #

    Gott has the best resume of an incoming coach that State has ever had. Now, he just needs to parlay that experience and prior success into a big time program and multiple NCAA Championships. K and Roy will be gone soon enough and it will then be the reign of Gott.

  15. packalum44 06/26/2011 at 5:51 AM #

    Amazes me that so many people feel the need to pay homage to Lowe. He might have a double digit IQ and he landed a 7 digit gig. How many other professions pay people with average intelligence that well?

  16. runwiththepack 06/26/2011 at 11:08 AM #

    I don’t consider it “paying homage” to show Lowe the respect he deserves as one of our old heroes. Although his tenure didn’t go as we would have liked, it looks bad for us to devour one of our own when things don’t go well. Let’s stop beating a dead horse. Letting him go was probably the right decision, but he wasn’t just anybody that wandered off the street.
    I repeat – HE can’t be blamed because someone botched the coaching search. Few coaches are setting the world on fire after just five years in college coaching. And Lowe didn’t have a chance to be an assistant college coach for even one year, let alone a head coach at a small school as a warmup stint.
    He might have been the best choice willing to take the job at that point. Heck, I would have taken the job if NCSU got that desperate! Since he left Gott with a pretty good bunch of players and recruits, you might say he could have done us a favor by taking the job until NCSU found a proven coach like Gott. (The longest standing “interim” coach in NCAA history!)

  17. runwiththepack 06/26/2011 at 12:49 PM #

    Oops! Above I am referring to Lowe as an interim coach, not Gott, as inferred.

  18. 61Packer 06/26/2011 at 2:23 PM #

    My biggest problem with Sidney Lowe wasn’t his IQ (which I believe is well above the 2-digit level).

    It wasn’t his limited coaching ability.

    It wasn’t his throwing players under the bus (a distant #2 on my list).

    It wasn’t his inability to beat UNC (he’s got plenty of company here).

    My biggest problem with Lowe was all of the above, coupled with Lowe’s determination to fix our program no matter how long it took. After two seasons, it was beyond obvious to anyone with even a double-digit IQ that Lowe the player wasn’t going to be successful as Lowe the coach. But Lowe was determined to save us, and I believe if the new AD hadn’t have stepped in, he would’ve stayed on for decades, regardless of the results.

    The apparent state of denial shown by so many past Wolfpack administrators is startling when compared to UNC. When a coach doesn’t work out in Chapel Hill, they get rid of him pronto, although BMFD may break that mold.

    When a coach doesn’t work out at NCSU, he (or she) simply stays on and Pack officials tell fans to be patient and wait until next year, etc. Volleyball may not be a familiar sport to most, but where else in Division One could a coach run up a 6-170 record before being dismissed? CTC stayed for 7 years, a few too many, and HWSNBN got 10 before deciding to run, about 3 years late. And some of the ones we should’ve kept have left, like the guy from Johnston County who’s in the NCAA Baseball finals again tomorrow night.

    If Gott works out, great! He just might. But if we’re still mired in mediocrity 3 years from now, let’s not wait for two or more years before figuring out the obvious. I believe this is the main reason NCSU is at the bottom of just about every list of overall athletic performance in Division One right now. We’ve been way too tolerant of coaching mediocrity. Hopefully the new AD will change this.

  19. Rick 06/26/2011 at 2:54 PM #

    “Letting him go was probably the right decision, but he wasn’t just anybody that wandered off the street.”

    Probably?

  20. Tampa-Pack 06/26/2011 at 3:07 PM #

    ^ there were a couple of years we could have finished lower in the conference standings… lol

  21. runwiththepack 06/26/2011 at 3:15 PM #

    I actually agree with your assessment of NCSU sports. But what concerns me is the contempt directed towards Lowe STILL – even after he’s gone! I would never go on the N&O or Charlotte Observer with these comments.
    But I’m almost horrified to read what some say about Lowe. Since he’s “one of us”, rather than a hired gun or mercenary, the way we handle these matters deserves more sensitivity. It’s like many have forgotten that he was our ’83 hero! And that he inherited a MESS.
    We can agree that our athletic department has been poorly managed without disparaging our old heroes. Dumping on Lowe is highly inappropriate.
    I’m sorry I persist with this, but it much concerns me that we would alienate Lowe. Would we do the same to 44? 17?

  22. Rick 06/26/2011 at 4:29 PM #

    You act as if Lowe had no control over anything.
    Frankly he got paid a lot, and I mean a lot, of money and did not even try that hard. You can have all the respect you want for him but there are going to be some that do not hold him in the same regard. Accepting that instead of arguing every time his name is mentioned will make things easier for you.

  23. runwiththepack 06/26/2011 at 5:01 PM #

    I don’t dispute that Lowe was responsible for his own undoing, and I don’t argue every time his name is mentioned. But those who responded to disagree with my posts don’t seem to understand WHY I’m concerned.
    Anyone whose NCSU jersey is retired is due an extra level of respect and consideration. It’s like “you don’t pull the mask off the ole’ Lone Ranger”, even though you might respectfully express an opinion as to why the Lone Ranger shouldn’t be your basketball coach.
    I understand that Lowe didn’t perform well, and I don’t take issue with his parting. In fact, I’m as excited as anybody about Gott.
    Old heroes deserve extra respect, and some of ours aren’t always getting it here, in my opinion. That could cost us someday, and I couldn’t keep silent about it. What if Phillip Rivers considers coaching here someday? He should never be reviled by anybody on SFN, even if he doesn’t win enough to suit us.
    It’s one thing to be frank, but it’s another thing to be offensive. OK, I persisted because some seem to think I thought Lowe was a good coach and thus missed the point. I’m tired of it myself.

  24. Rick 06/26/2011 at 5:33 PM #

    “He should never be reviled by anybody on SFN, even if he doesn’t win enough to suit us.”

    So you want us to silence opinions that differ from your own?
    Not going to happen.

  25. runwiththepack 06/26/2011 at 6:18 PM #

    No, just saying we should temper our comments when the subject is someone whose jersey hangs over our stadium/arena, unless this person incurs multiple NCAA major violations.
    I’m not seeking to silence anyone – just trying to point out something that I don’t think is right and clarify what I said to those who don’t seem to understand my posts.
    Instead, those responding seem to think I said those things because I thought he was a good coach who should still be here. Not the case.
    In fact, when Lowe was hired, I expressed reservations to fellow NCS fans about the hire for the exact reasons that came to be his undoing, unfortunately.
    But he’s still the person who probably takes more credit than any other player on the ’83 NC team. I knew then that if things didn’t go well in his tenure, there was the possibility of alienating him, unnecessarily, from our Wolfpack family.
    So, go ahead – anyone on SFN revile him if you want. But don’t think it doesn’t have a cost to NCSU.

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