Mike Patrick, what more can we say?(a lot actually, updated with commentary by Daily Update)

There is a reason this guy doesn’t do anything in his life other than yap on the television.

With a mindset like this, why do people even bother playing the games?

At some point, you really have to wonder if the ACC will approach its broadcast partner(ESPN?) that Patrick works for to get him off of ACC broadcasts completely. Why would the ACC want a guy doing conference games when he does nothing but promote Duke and UNC while denigrating the rest of the league through mis-truths, outright lies, and idiotic statements? Here he was last night doing a game that didn’t even involve an ACC team, yet he is out there promoting this idea that just because UNC and Duke are in the ACC that no coach should want to work in that conference. What great publicity for Georgia Tech and NC State to a national audience last night as both schools attempt to make a crucial hire!

Is that the type of publicity the ACC is looking for as a conference? Should the league office allow this guy to continually promote that no program besides Duke or UNC is worth a shit in this conference?

Who needs enemies when you have “partners” doing your games like Patrick, “partners”(ESPN and Raycom) allowing Patrick(Gman, Elmore, etc…) to dump on 10 of 12 teams in the conference, and an ACC commissioner who does absolutely nothing to correct the behaviors of these “partners” contracted to promote the conference as a whole?


Patrick makes this statement as if other major conferences don’t have dominant teams. While the Pac-10 is currently down, for decades+ Arizona and UCLA have dominated that conference as much as Duke and UNC have the ACC. Since Billy Donovan arrived at Florida, the Gators and the Kentucky Wildcats have dominated the SEC. In the Big East, you have 3 hall of fame coaches at Syracuse, UConn, and Louisville and a #1 seed this year in Pitt. In the Big 12, there are dominant programs like Kansas and Texas. Does Patrick even know anything about the Big 10 which has two of the top programs in the country in Ohio St. and Michigan St(not to mention Wisconsin, Purdue, Indiana, etc..)?

Honestly, is there any conference a coach can target that doesn’t have at least two of the premiere programs of all-time followed by a bunch of other solid programs that shouldn’t be avoided with Patrick’s logic? Why would any coach want to coach anywhere?

Another point that Patrick misses and Mike Decourcy missed yesterday as well on the Dave Glenn show is that college basketball isn’t a regular season sport. It will obviously be difficult for any coach to win regular season titles in the ACC, Big 10, Big 12, Big East, etc… It is tough to do. If this was college football, then that would matter as generally you have to win your conference to have a shot at the national title and/or make BCS bowl game.

But in college basketball, there are 68 teams that make the NCAA tournament and whether you finish 1st or 3rd-6th in your conference you have have a shot to make a deep run in March. You can make that deep run at NC State or Georgia Tech or Maryland just as easily as any other non-top 2 program(UNC/Duke, Kansas/Texas, Mich St./Ohio St, UConn/Pitt, UF/UK, Arizona/UCLA) from every other conference. Even WF and UVA are high quality jobs and with the right coach you have every chance to win at a high level nationally. In the ACC right now, traditional football programs like BC, VT, FSU, and Clemson finished immediately behind Duke and UNC. That statement alone tells you how wide open the ACC is at this moment and that is without considering eventual retirements of the league’s top 3 coaches: Roy, K, and Gary.

When is Swofford going to step up, defend the other 10 basketball programs in his conference, and get Mike Patrick off of ACC basketball games?

Probably never, unfortunately for 10 schools in the ACC.

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48 Responses to Mike Patrick, what more can we say?(a lot actually, updated with commentary by Daily Update)

  1. Sw0rdf1sh 03/17/2011 at 9:26 AM #

    Love the music!

    Apparently, Patrick hasn’t read Featherston’s article….

  2. WV Wolf 03/17/2011 at 9:29 AM #

    Apparently going up against Dook and UNC is the most intimidating and scary thing a coach could possibly do.

    Les Robinson was willing to do it. Herb Sendek was willing to do it. Sidney Lowe was willing to do it.

    With all due respect to those 3 guys, you’re telling me they have more cajones than every other coach in the country? Really?

  3. StateFans 03/17/2011 at 9:38 AM #

    How in the world does the rest of the country succeed at beating UNC & Duke? Don’t they all recruit the same players? UNC & Duke recruit basically nobody in the Carolinas….so, you can’t claim that their presence negatively impacts our recruiting in the area.

  4. baxter 03/17/2011 at 9:42 AM #

    Row Labels Sum of W Sum of L Sum of CW Sum of CL
    Mike Krzyzewski 205 45 83 29
    Roy Williams 196 53 77 35
    Grand Total 401 98 160 64

    Since 2003-04 UNC and Duke have lost 64 conference games and 34 out of conference games. Add to that UNC’s 5 OOC L, 2 conference losses (Duke), Dukes loss to St. Johns, VT, FSU and UNC this year.

    Clearly, they are great programs. But this absurd notion that you can’t beat them is so patently false. How coaches haven’t stepped up and called the media out on this is beyond me. Part of me thinks the BE coaches are all chuckling to themselves.

  5. baxter 03/17/2011 at 9:46 AM #

    Furthermore, Duke and UNC from 2003 – 04 to present is like 9 – 8 in favor of Duke. So its not like they only lose to each other.

  6. Old MacDonald 03/17/2011 at 10:00 AM #

    Mike Patrick apparently doesn’t understand people who might want a professional challenge — to coach in college basketball Mecca at a school that has 2 national titles. Not everybody is a giant pussy, Mike.

  7. jbark 03/17/2011 at 10:01 AM #

    Breaking news coming out of the MLB:
    Managers of the Baltimore Orioles, Tampa Bay Rays, and Toronto Blue Jays all resigned today citing that they cannot compete with the Yankees and Red Sox.

  8. JeremyH 03/17/2011 at 10:12 AM #

    I think the talking heads have reached the conclusion that if they all spout out the same garbage, no one will notice it is garbage. (Isn’t that called propaganda?) I’m so glad there are media sources, like *this* one, that are willing to call them out.

    So I don’t blame Mike Patrick for his negative attitude towards NC State. It’s bigger than that.

  9. StateFans 03/17/2011 at 10:20 AM #

    Amazing how frigging PERFECT all of your comments are. Every one of them is exactly what goes on in my head.

  10. Lunatic Fringe 03/17/2011 at 10:23 AM #

    Is it surprising that someone who appears to be fairly lazy in his game preparation and history of teams he is covering to be against jobs that would be a perceived challenge?

  11. wufpup76 03/17/2011 at 10:29 AM #


    This is part of the reason the ACC is rapidly becoming a laughingstock.

    You can’t compete, so why try?

    Kneel before Swofford and swear allegiance to his vision. Kiss his ring of power.

    Kiss it.

  12. redsteel 03/17/2011 at 10:38 AM #

    Send this to DY. Maybe she can give him a stern talking to for his “limited” knowledge.

  13. wolfie91 03/17/2011 at 10:42 AM #

    76, I was thinking along similar lines. A better comment would be that GaTech and NC State need to find solid coaches to help bring back a faltering ACC. The pendulum may swing and the ACC may very well make its way back as part of the natural course of things, but there is no guarantee of that.

    I don’t think the other announcers comment was much better.

  14. tcthdi-tgsf-twhwtnc 03/17/2011 at 10:51 AM #

    Shaka doesn’t step down from media, Dukie…

    Virginia Commonwealth sure proved it could handle it.

    After hearing almost every basketball expert question whether they had any business being in the field of 68, the Rams went out and made their case on the court.

    “You guys think Jay Bilas watched that game?” VCU coach Shaka Smart said with a wide grin, referring to the ESPN analyst…

  15. RegularExpression 03/17/2011 at 11:02 AM #

    This dovetails into the “how would you fix the ACC” thread in the forums. If I were the commish of the ACC I would make a personal phone call to Patrick to educate him on the history of the ACC. If the ACC as a whole is to become competitive again(maybe even win the ACC-Big 10 challenge- imagine that!!) GT and NC State need to get these hires right. They are 2 of what I think are 7 ACC schools that don’t have much excuse to suck in basketball.

    I must admit, I’m rooting against the ACC in the NCAA tournament. Once they start losing revenue from the tourney, maybe it will hit home that having the Duke-UNC game on 4 different ESPN channels isn’t enough.

  16. Wolfy__79 03/17/2011 at 11:08 AM #

    if some idiot coach doesn’t take a job b/c of recruiting? or unc or duke? then they do not belong here. Patrick is a chicken little kind of guy. happens to alot of guys, the acc should not take this kind of crap from a talking head, even if the bias gets in the way. when unc gets their socks blown off in the tourney this year and next.. then they will wonder what we need to do to strengthen the conference. but of course, it’s very seldom i see anything other than chicken little behavior coming from anything whinablew!

  17. packof81 03/17/2011 at 11:38 AM #

    Swofford is Mr. Milk Toast. So is the rest of the leadership of the ACC and it’s schools if they don’t raise hell with ESPN about these braying jackasses.

  18. ILpackfan 03/17/2011 at 11:49 AM #

    Patrick is just an empty head who seems to say whatever comes to mind to avoid dead air. I don’t know of anyone who takes him too seriously, and this is yet another example of why.

    You want to build a reputation? Come to one of the few places with not one but two Hall of Fame coaches in the same area code. Compete with them and try to beat them as handily and often as possible. You win under those circumstances, you’ve got it made. That’s why a coach might want to come here.

  19. MrPlywood 03/17/2011 at 12:01 PM #

    Is the guy ALWAYS drunk?

  20. method1220 03/17/2011 at 12:04 PM #

    At least the knucklehead took the logic to its full extension. The same logic that asks why anyone would want to coach in the “shadow” cast across Raleigh, also leads one to wonder why anyone would want to coach anywhere in the ACC.
    The thing is, even if the argument had any weight whatsoever (which would require ignoring the general competitive nature of good coaches), it assumes that Coach K is immortal. We certainly don’t have any glaringly obvious examples around of how a solid program can slide quickly after a coaching change. (Doh!)

  21. MP 03/17/2011 at 12:39 PM #

    “Why would any coach want to coach anywhere?” NICE!

  22. Howler 03/17/2011 at 12:51 PM #

    Hey, I kinda like Mike Patrick. He has a soothing voice that often helps me fall asleep.

  23. IMFletcherWolf 03/17/2011 at 12:53 PM #

    I would call Patrick’s comments “unbelievable,” but after hearing the ignorance he has been spewing for most of the season, I absolutely can believe he made these ridiculous comments about the ACC.

    The failure of ACC programs like GT and State are one of the reasons why UNC-CH and Duke seem so invincible. The Blues simply have had no ACC competition for the last 5-8 years – since Gary had his last good teams in the late 90’s/early 00’s.

    Now is the time for State (& GT) to step up to the plate and begin taking swings at them. It starts with signing a good (great) coach who has a vision for the program’s future success. The decision is in DY’s hands. I trust her to make the right hire for us.

    Someone from the ACC seriously needs to talk to ESPN and Patrick. What an idiot.

  24. packhammer 03/17/2011 at 12:58 PM #

    Uh, Jimmy V, upon taking the call from NC State, did not say “gee I think I might be interested but I sure am worried about Dean and K”. He said, yes I’ll take the job and I can’t wait to kick everyone’s butt in the conference and win a national championship. Right on to Ms. Yow. No excuses, no regrets, no fear.

  25. PackInsider 03/17/2011 at 1:00 PM #

    Part of the problem is that the league and league officials so blatantly protect Duke and Carolina during the regular season so that they can man-handle the other league members, making this look like a 2 horse race. Duke and Carolina wouldn’t dominate the Big East, Big 12, Big 10, etc. like they do the ACC night in and night because the officiating wouldn’t be so damn one sided.

    Hence the perception that Duke and Carolina are friggin’ invincible.

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