Offense goes cold in 59-47 loss to ‘Hoos

If NC State fans thought the 27-point first half effort against NCCU Saturday was cringe worthy, hopefully they didn’t watch the second half of tonight’s game against Virginia. NC State could do little against Virginia’s impressive defense, going scoreless for more than seven minutes in the decisive second half in its sixth ACC loss of the season.

When Tracy Smith left the game in foul trouble, so too did NC State’s offensive identity. The Pack could never recover when Smith reentered the game and Virginia put the game away late with a couple of clutch buckets and free throws.

I’ll defer to other publications for game recaps because I didn’t get a chance to watch the entire game.

WRAL - Scott’s 13 lead Virginia past NC State 59-47

Sylven Landesberg always attracts a lot of attention on offense, and on a night when he couldn’t shoot, he found Virginia teammates that could. The whole team then made it really hard on North Carolina State to do the same in the second half.

Mike Scott had 15 points and 11 rebounds and Virginia held North Carolina State scoreless for more than seven minutes in the second half on the way to a 59047 victory Wednesday night.

Pack Pride - Offense silent as Pack falls to Cavs 59-47

Another game, another costly scoring drought.

A week after an eight-minute stretch without a point cost NC State a chance at beating North Carolina, the Wolfpack repeated the feat. This time on the road against Virginia, the Pack did not score from the 17-minute mark of the second half until the 10-minute mark. In that stretch, the Pack’s three-point lead turned into an eight-point deficit en route to dropping its third-straight ACC contest 59-47 on Wednesday night.

The scoring drought was just the low point of an abysmal offensive game for the Pack. Scoring its lowest point total of the season, the Pack shot 38 percent from the floor but was just 2-of-11 from behind the arc. And while they got to the free-throw line, they still couldn’t turn it into points, shooting just 56 percent from the charity stripe.

Here’s the box score.

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91 Responses to Offense goes cold in 59-47 loss to ‘Hoos

  1. colapack 02/04/2010 at 3:34 PM #

    Did anyone count the steps farakhan took on that dunk? He picked the ball up several feet from the 3 point line and somehow only took two steps to the basket. Personally, I am getting to where I can’t watch basketball without getting pissed at the lack of rule enforcement. It just ain’t fun to watch players get away with so much stuff. Then he does the gangsta thang and tries to chest up to javi. His coach should have sat his ass on the bench for that unsportsmanlike crap. Atleast the officals should have whistled it.

    On Javi, there was a distinct difference in his game after the ankle roll. He couldn’t cut and penetrate at all. I believe this played a role in the drought in the 2nd half.

  2. Judge1986 02/04/2010 at 3:43 PM #

    The point I was making, while conceding there are other candidates that even I like better, is to look at the “whole body of work” which shows a winning D1 coach as mentioned above (see, UTEP, Texas A&M). Who has won wherever he has coached. That has had one past DUI (which I may add a number of prominent coaches in a multitude of sports have had i.e. John Gruden, Tony LaRussa). He did not make the tournament with Kentucky but he did have a winning record there. The other things are speculative at best.

    Now I do understand that with him you would have to extensively research the “off the court” issues and what happened at Kentucky to make sure that those issues are resolved. But remember if they are resolved you are getting a former national coach of the year who revived two previously moribound programs and made them relevant again in a short period of time. I believe (not sure) he has least made it to one Sweet Sixteen in his career. He did not appear to have the “problems” at that he had at Kentucky at his previous coaching stops. By the way I believe Few has stated that he wants to stay “out west” to coach so I do not believe he is a viable candidate.

    We are currently in last place and will have finIshed at or near the bottom of the conference the last four years. Who are we not to at least take a look at a person who has clearly shown potential in the past if they have shown to be rehabilitated who has been a successful and winning coach at every D1 stop?

    I do understand what you are saying and I don’t want this to reduce this conversation about potential other coaches to just an argument about BG so can we just agree to disagree. I do not beleive we lose any credibilty if we at least “kick the tires” if we have a coaching search. Heck we need to open ourselves up to all possibilities if and when this happens. Closing doors on possiblities by our esteemed AD got us to to this position in the first place. That is my belief.

  3. fullmoon1 02/04/2010 at 3:46 PM #

    I hadn’t noticed that cola but it would not surprise me if a travel preceded the dunk. Dribbling doesn’t seem to be necessary any more so long as you are aggressively running in the general direction of a basket. With 3 refs on the floor I am amazed at the rules that get ignored game after game. I still cringe at the fact it was on sports center.

  4. ryebread 02/04/2010 at 5:11 PM #

    Judge: Well thought out response. I think we’ll agree to disagree on BG. At this point in time, I think he’s better off returning to the state of Texas (where he’s recruited successfully) at a place like Houston than coming to a job like ours (which is more like the Kentucky job he failed at). I don’t think he’s worth the risk (much like I don’t think hiring Bobby Knight would be worth the risk).

    With Few, he plays his cards pretty close to the vest. It appears to me that he’s hanging around for the Oregon or Washington jobs to come open, but you have to think he’d at least listen to our job if we made a serious offer. The man has a .900 conference record, a .800 overall record and has won against the ACC, so we should at least give him a serious run. He’s a viable candidate until he tells us no.

    If Few does tell us no, immediately we should move onto those candidates who are proven winners and who would view this as a step up. I think Marshall and Brownell are two who I really like. I can almost guarantee we’ll get some sort of winner if we stick to this strategy.

    Regardless, we have no opening and I don’t anticipate an opening this season. It’s a bit of a moot point. LF needs to go before we can really have a conversation about a sanely run coaching search.

  5. Judge1986 02/04/2010 at 5:36 PM #

    ^

    I would love to have Few and I agree with you wholeheartedly.

  6. Ed89 02/04/2010 at 5:50 PM #

    Few is a west coast guy, so I would be skeptical about him here. I think we’d be better off with Marshall.

  7. whope90 02/04/2010 at 7:36 PM #

    Didn’t everyone love the news and observer article today with the NC State scoring whoas? Three straight games with second half field goal percentages below 30% and three losses by 24,24 and 13. And what did our great mindfull college coach say? Our young guys are not hitting shots! Duh! Hey El Sid, why don’t you teach a set or somekind of offense or drive to the basket and play both howell and smith at the same time with horner on the bench and play vberg more for defense and rebounding? This is his fourth year and he still states”we did not hit shots” is this the Les Robinson method of offense? ala Lakista Mcculler? Or the Herb Sendek princeton method but with no movement?
    He should resign at season’s end!

  8. BJD95 02/04/2010 at 8:07 PM #

    Gillispie isn’t a good fit for any job until he gets some help. He’s a pretty serious alcoholic.

  9. Justin Gainey 02/04/2010 at 11:50 PM #

    ^ who cares if Gillispie is an alcoholic. Hell this team is turning us all into one. Hell we hired a coach whom has never coached a college basketball game in his life, WTF. I would take Gillespie anyday of the week. He has proven he can win at big time division schools. I am tired of being mediocre. We haven’t been good since 87! That is 22 years man!! What in the hell are we waiting for. It seems the coaches are getting worse, not better.

  10. thekind 02/05/2010 at 8:29 AM #

    BG would be a terrible hire. The man was just fired from UK. Brownell was fired recently at UNC-W. We do not need to sell ourselves short. As bad as we have stunk since the V era, we are still a great basketball school.
    The first step is to fire Fowler. Then replace him with someone that makes smarts decisions and knows what it takes to win.

  11. Wulfpack 02/05/2010 at 8:58 AM #

    If I’m not mistaken Brownell was not fired at UNCW. He’s an Indiana guy and left to build the program at Wright State. UNCW’s administration is an absolute joke, so it was no surprise he left. They’ve been downhill ever since. He’d be an excellent hire.

  12. ryebread 02/05/2010 at 10:18 AM #

    Brownell didn’t get fired from UNCW. He got an offer from Wright State but from what I’ve read tried to work with UNCW on a package to stay. The AD didn’t get it done, much to the distress of the UNCW fan and alumnus base so Brownell left for Wright State.

    The AD hired a replacement who then completely flopped. That’s the coach who you’re thinking about who just got fired. The AD is under some serious fire for botching the whole thing.

    Brownell’s fairly young (41), his record is quite good (.667 overall but .715 in conference play), he competed with several ACC teams at UNCW, seems to do things the right way and his players loved him. He was coach of the year in the CAA twice (UNCW won the CAA in 2 of his 4 seasons) and has won coach of the year in the Horizon league (when he led Wright State to its first ever Horizon League title).

    I remember multiple stories of the kids he left behind at UNCW then traveling to watch Wright State play the next year. They hadn’t yet graduated but still went that far just to see him. Honestly, have we ever heard of that kind of loyalty for one of our revenue sport coaches?

    My gut feeling is that some major program is going to sweep him up and he’ll be a very, very good hire for a long time. Given he’s from the midwest originally, I can see him landing at a school like Indiana, Iowa or Illinois, but he’d be a very intriguing hire for us given the NC ties. I think he could really build something and be around a long time.

  13. Wulfpack 02/05/2010 at 11:43 AM #

    Thanks, Ryebread. I’ve also heard nothing but great things about him. He had a great run at UNCW and the admin. botched it. He’ll get a big-time job very soon. He should def. be on our list.

  14. Wulfpack 02/05/2010 at 11:56 AM #

    Another Midwestern coach I’d throw in there is Tom Crean. Not that we’d have much of a chance, but at least gauge if there is any interest. He’s doing a good job rebuilding Indiana, they are at least competitive in year 2. I just love the way he coaches. A true teacher with energy and passion. We probably have no chance in hell. Just a thought.

  15. whope90 02/05/2010 at 3:04 PM #

    I am for Gregg Marshall, someone from the wolfpack club needs to go after him or even larry hunter, yes larry hunter. He is an experience college coach whom was the one that saved herbs job with that princeton offense that lots of teams use. What about taking a swing at Davidsons coach?
    But the next hire needs to be someone whom has won at this level and can turn it around quickly are we are headed down the NORTHWESTERN path of college basketball histories where no one will be able to remember the last time state was in the nit, ncaa or even a acc or national title!
    Heck i would go for Chris Collins of duke, that guy has spunk!!!

  16. whope90 02/05/2010 at 3:05 PM #

    Matt D of SMU?
    He would take the job i bet!
    Who would want to beat UNC more than him and the man can recruit and has been a winner everywhere:ND UNC Floirda IN and sometime soon SMU.

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