Football Schedule Analysis

Yes, I’ve finally had enough caffeine and motivation/shame to force myself to sit down and do this. For a chance (Added Note: I am omitting 2013, when Doeren simply had no chance, so much so that I had blacked it out and forgotten he had been here 3 years instead of 2, getting old is a bitch and a half), Doeren isn’t squarely behind the 8 ball in how the schedule flows, as I will elaborate below…

William & Mary (Thur 1 Sep, 7:30 – ESPN3)

Huzzah, we get the opener right. 9 days to correct the mistakes before a more formidable foe. A Thursday night kickoff that can’t be moved to noon by the Swoffy cabal to torture season ticket holders (and anyone else nuts enough to show up). The open questions we hope and need to see answered here – 1) can the OL be something other than a dumpster fire? and 2) can we identify a credible, good starting QB? For “ok” will not do, NC State never has and in my opinion, never will be any good without good QB play. For reference, look at the post-Philip Rivers side that boasted the most wolven defensive talent (at least in terms of NFL draft assets) ever…6-5.

Win probability – 99%

at Pitt County Community College and Battery Tossing Academy (Sat 10 Sep, Noon – ESPNU)

This is really stretching the “U” by ESPN, but oh well. Full confession, my oldest kid will be at this game as a freshman, cheering for the bad people. She asked me if I wanted to come, to which I said “hell no” (other expletives omitted). But if you are to play this stupid game, which offers zero strategic benefit to NC State and great value to the opposition (especially played at their dirt track racing arena)…this is the ideal time. It will always be EZU’s Super Bowl, but at least it won’t be watered down by coming in the middle of, or God help us, AFTER the ACC schedule. It will be the first legitimate opponent, the first “hostile crowd” test, and that will help our guys be up for it. And unlike 2014 and 2015, we get out first taste of “game speed” at the same time as our opposition, rather than being hopelessly behind the curve (which cost us at least the VPI game last year). Hiding your weaknesses never helps you. Get out there and play football. Hit somebody, see what you are made of. The kids want that.

Win probability – 55%

Old Dominion (Sat 17 Sep, 6:00 – ESPN3)

I probably find this fixture a bit trickier than most. But we could be a bit beat up after the road trip, or feeling a bit too good about ourselves. But in the end, it’s still a home game that we should win. Good scheduling, as it is a step up from the cupcake of the opener.

Win probability – 85%

The bye comes here, at a pretty good time, in my view. Three very different games for the coaches to analyze and make corrections. None of the possible losses would ruin or define the season.

Wake Forest (Sat 1 Oct, TBA)

Getting the Deacs at home off the bye…manna from heaven. Doeren starts 1-0 in ACC play this go ’round, without question.

Win probability – 95%

Notre Dame (Sat 8 Oct, TBA)

Time for shit to get real, yes? And again, the timing is perfect. Confidence should be high, the line should have gelled if ever it will. National pundits have written State off here, noting that under Doeren, “State has never beaten anyone of stature” (paraphrased). Yeah, but let me ‘splain. First, he inherited a vast talent gap. Year ThreeFour is the first time you can really start grading him with a red pen. Second, the teams that NC State has gotten blitzed by are the same that ND struggles with – speed teams. When the other guy can just run past you and score at will…that’s a limiting reagent. The Irish don’t have that, and have mudded around with much lesser sides than NC State, in much less hostile venues. Their record has been padded again and again by playing the dregs of the B1G and other slow, slow programs. NC State gets up for statement-type games, and this will qualify. I thought of this as a 30-35% shot going in, but once I saw the schedule layout, I am upgrading it further…

Win probability – 40%

at Clemson (Sat 15 Oct, TBA)

There are games I am optimistic about, and then there is going into Death Valley the week after playing Notre Dame. Cover your rectal orifices, boys.

Win probability – 10%

at Louisville (Sat 22 Oct, TBA)

Hey, this is a challenging little stretch here, eh? That said, we seem to play the Cardinals tough, and they don’t have the overwhelming personnel advantage that Clemson does. Still, the Fighting Petrinos are the best-coached side in the ACC, and will be a tough hill to climb.

Win probability – 25%

Boston College (Sat 29 Oct, TBA)

Isn’t it nice that Boston College is still in the league? Like having a second, colder Wake Forest. Still, they might have a defense, and our charges might be a wee bit beat up by this point. Not going to be arrogant with this one.

Win probability – 85%

Florida State (Sat 5 Nov, TBA)

A little birdie told me that we get the Criminoles right after they play Clemson at home (without a bye in between). That is indeed the case. Jimbo Fisher still can’t coach his way out of a wet paper bag, so you know they will come in arrogant, or feeling like they threw their season away. It will be a matter of (i) is their talent advantage so great that these factors don’t matter; and (ii) is State too beat up by this point in the season to take advantage? There is always the chance of magic when we play Florida State, so keep some hope alive.

Win probability – 30%

at Syracuse (Sat 12 Nov, TBA)

Damn the anthropomorphic Orange for not playing outdoors, and denying us the chance of Glorious Snow Footy. Will they still be bad? Almost surely. Will NC State have their patented FSU hangover? Almost surely. Will this game be unwatchable dreck that sets a season commenting high due to the raw angst of Glorious Wolven Proletariat? You know the answer…

Win probability – 65%

Miami (Sat 19 Nov, TBA)

This game could be vital for Da U, in terms of winning the Coastal Division. In fact, State’s performance in our last two fixtures could decide the fate of who loses to FSU/Clemson/Louisville in Charlotte on 3 Dec. Feel the excite!!! Can we just rest our starters for next week?

Win probability – 40%

at Trump University Fraudulent Diploma Mill – Orange County, NC Branch (Fri 25 Nov, Noon or 3:30, ABC or ESPN or ESPN2)

Insert all the bad words you know, everything dirty George Carlin and Jim Jefferies have ever said, and multiply it by about 10,000. As long as the Pack shows up reasonably healthy, I think we have enough to ruin a season and add some Schadenfruede to the post-turkey and pie haze of glory. Doeren seems to get the fire and brimstone aspect of our rivalry, and we will want this one…bad.

Win probability – 55%

Adding up the probabilities you get an expected win total of…

6.84. No cheating, I didn’t mess with the numbers to get them to equal what I predicted earlier (7-5), it just worked out that way. You can always try this exercise yourself.

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  • #105520
    TheCOWDOG
    Moderator

    When McCallum trolls, he trolls with acerbic wit. No problem here. But…failing to acknowledge the foot injury leading to Frasier’s frosh RS, and Matt Dayes’ rightful #1…and everything after that is called a “laundry list” for a reason…well, dammit Mc, it just ain’t up to standard.

    #105521
    TheAliasTroll
    Participant

    I like McCallum. He’s sassy.

    #105522
    Gowolves
    Participant

    I like ice cream. Who cares. I just can’t stand his hit and run tactics with nothing to support it and tons of evidence where a kid comes from a small school and does well. It just reeks of lazy analysis.

    #105523
    wirogers
    Participant

    You guys just need to learn how to read McCallum. He is not a troll, he is a State Grad. He is just an over read frat boy from the sand hills who does not know the difference between ‘Dirt’ and ‘Soil’. Just learn to love him and laugh, he can be very entertaining if you take it correctly.

    From PA State looks great to me, I just have learned to hate Penn State as much as UNX.

    #105524
    mak4dpak
    Participant

    Well no matter what we think, time will be the factor that lets us know who is right. Let’s play football! Go Pack! Surprise us!

    #105525
    choppack1
    Participant

    While I am not one to call out players who haven’t done an other than live up to our expectations….I do think it’s certainly fair to note that Frazier wasnt able to finish it off like ta, Andre brown and our current Samuels.

    Note that another highly touted back who had a star-crossed career here (but was nothing but pure class during his time here)

    #105526
    choppack1
    Participant

    Unlike those mentioned above

    #105527
    TheAliasTroll
    Participant

    I like McCallum because his hit and run tactics make grown men whine on the internet.

    #105528
    Whiteshoes67
    Participant

    Having seen TA run roughshod over 1A teams, and only having seen Frazier in the Shrine Bowl, the speed and explosion thru the line looked very different.

    #105529
    Gowolves
    Participant

    I like McCallum because his hit and run tactics make grown men whine on the internet.

    I like how you think you are funny.

    #105531
    TheAliasTroll
    Participant

    I like McCallum because his hit and run tactics make grown men whine on the internet.

    I like how you think you are funny.

    thanks!

    #105532
    McCallum
    Participant

    Don’t listen to anything wirogers says because:

    1) he od’ed on honey buns and Dr Pepper during the Bush I administration

    2) he once dated Summer Erb

    The comments on Fraiser are an “attempt” to get some of you to step out of the greater Wake County area and have a look at the larger picture. Elite athletes of the “top 5” variety are rarely stopped or slowed down on the high school level, State has few if any in that talent category.

    The talent level is not high in Raleigh nor is the coaching level. To suppose State will catch a break here or there, wishing for this or wishing for that are hyperbole. The o line play is weak, the wideouts lack speed experience and depth, QB play has no tangible experience, and the linebackers and secondary are weak(pretty weak last year for certain). The kicking game is in complete question but for some reason that is not mentioned much when you are pulling kids from unc-Pembroke.

    State has depth on the defensive line and experience. There is depth at running back.

    That is about it. Now we can beat the statistical analysis(plays from scrimmage versus, 3rd down conversion, yards 1st down, tackles on line, tackles are 5,10,15 yards from line etc) around all you like but when you finish you’ll see the is little regression from mean and mean is roughly .506 overall.

    4-4 would be normal, 5-3 a deviation, 6-2 would send some of you back into Amway, and let’s not go any further because Cool-Aid only recovered from Jim Jones about 20 years ago despite him using Flavor-Aid.

    McCallum

    #105535
    Fastback68
    Participant

    Can I get some info that’s not 6 months old and actually useful.

    UT -20 YOSEPH, UL -39.5 49ers, WFU -17 Tulane, no line State -17ish???

    For entertainment purposes only of course.

    #105536
    wolfpackdawg
    Participant

    McCallum….I’d like your thoughts on Kirby…how many wins this year? Will Lambert start next weekend?

    #105537
    McCallum
    Participant

    How nice to ask me about Kirby Smart. I must say I’m flattered though I can’t help but see the ironic contrast between Kirby’s last name and the Georgia fan base.

    What can you say about Georgia other than they get all they want each and every year. They pull the best in state talent plus they run that wonderful Hwy 74 from out near Shelby all the way down toward Wilmington. A little known FACT is that a Division 1 team could pull 30 miles north and south of that highway from Shelby to Wilmington and you’d have all you need to win big.

    Not sure what to expect out of Georgia other than the typical mouthing of the fans who are akin to unc fans except they are less cultured but more bright. Now you ask more bright and I would point out that the typical Georgia fan figured out how to stop the blinking light on the VCR: they covered it with electrical tape.

    McCallum

    #105538
    wolfpack92owen
    Participant

    Having seen TA run roughshod over 1A teams, and only having seen Frazier in the Shrine Bowl, the speed and explosion thru the line looked very different.

    I watched TA a ton in High School and it was crazy insane the things he did to those poor kids. One play against a team I cannot remember, TA takes a pitch speeds to the outside and his met by a small corner he unloads on the kid and knocks him about 3 yards downfield, he then did that classic spin right into a player coming to help and knocked him 3-4 yards back and TA pulls up as if he is looking for someone else to hit but then just jogs into the endzone.

    #105541
    choppack1
    Participant

    And I saw Andre Brown play in state championship and it looked like a man playing with kids.

    He sometimes looked like that in college

    #105542
    BJD95
    Keymaster

    I do NAWT believe Happy Appy will cover the 20 spot against UT. I like the creamsicle checkerboard folks this season. Perhaps by default, but I likes ’em nonetheless.

    #105543
    Rick
    Keymaster

    It’s always funny to see the reaction when someone disagrees with the company line around here.

    #105545
    PK Pollar
    Participant

    What’s the company line? Somewhere between 5-7 and 7-5? Might be worse, won’t be better.

    No prizes are given out at the end of the season for being right. Could use market economic principles and buy shares of the final record to temper those who are optimistic (DD best coach ever) and those who are pessimistic (DD is the worst coach in NCSU history).

    #105546
    Gowolves
    Participant

    It’s always funny to see the reaction when someone disagrees with the company line around here.

    Not sure what you are trying to say here. I agree with some of the latest assessment of the team. I am on record of 6-6 or 5-7. I think this team will be somewhat better but have a worse record. The schedule is so damn tough. It all comes down to QB play or lack of it. I just thought it was cheap shot to say I told you so about a kid who has no control where he grows up and plays ball. Most kids who come from the small schools don’t make it but more than you think do. I know it was an indictment on DD but if that kid had gone to USC and had a career worth fawning over people would have ripped him from letting him get away. Recruiting is so hit and miss it’s silly to sit back and say I told you so over the success or lack there of a 18 year old kid.

    I do think DD will have to win 6 and beat UNC to keep the seat from getting hot. It takes at least four years to get your system and players in the program. He deserves the support this year and next. Sounds cliché but this year is important for his job status. If they go 6-6 or better the vibe around the program will be positive enough to flow into the recruiting trail. 5-7 might be ok if the program has a signature a win. If it is worse than that it’s over. Not this year, though. He will coach 2017 season. The recruiting will suffer and DD will lose the fan base.

    #105547
    Fastback68
    Participant

    I do NAWT believe Happy Appy will cover the 20 spot against UT. I like the creamsicle checkerboard folks this season. Perhaps by default, but I likes ’em nonetheless.

    We took the checkerboard tour this past weekend. I think I have lost her. The irony is we all went to the Chik Filet game 4 years ago but it seems like just yesterday. Not a transition I’m looking forward to but time marches on. Blue tick hounds are ok but I might have really screwed myself with Rocky Top. The late coin is driving the spread down but Vols cover.

    #105548
    TheAliasTroll
    Participant

    Well one thing’s for sure.. it’s year 4 and there’s no excitement around the program. One would think this needs to be some kind of break out season for DD & co. or else what’s the point?

    #105549
    McCallum
    Participant

    It is not a cheap shot on the “kid”.

    I asked when he was signed if he was any good because it was apparent to me that something is missing when you are gauged to have a certain level of talent and yet you do not dominate. I pointed to Keith Marshall at Millbrook as another example in comparison to Todd Gurley.

    What I heard was what you saw in the comment section and too much of the fan base buys into what they are told. There will be no success at State until the AD understands what type of mentality you need to look for at a place like NC State. That menaltity does not concern knowing the history of the school in an effort to supplicate the fan base and their narcasstic nature but rather to understand the complex nature of recruiting at NC State in relation to population, media connections, the impacts of basketball as well as the correlation of success in relation to the number division 1 programs within 200 miles.

    State can’t even capitalize on the massive fraud that has taken place over in Orange County to horde in state talent. Instead the 7-8 year cycle of Tennessee or Clemson being down has been missed.

    I just don’t think the SOBs know what they are doing.

    McCallum

    #105550
    JasonP
    Participant

    The talent level is not high in Raleigh nor is the coaching level. To suppose State will catch a break here or there, wishing for this or wishing for that are hyperbole. The o line play is weak, the wideouts lack speed experience and depth, QB play has no tangible experience, and the linebackers and secondary are weak(pretty weak last year for certain). The kicking game is in complete question but for some reason that is not mentioned much when you are pulling kids from unc-Pembroke.

    State has depth on the defensive line and experience. There is depth at running back.

    I agree for the most part. Recruiting rankings aren’t an exact science, but the teams that consistently finish high in that regard do pretty well. Unfortunately, we haven’t been cracking that top 25 or 30 in forever which means we’re still “coachin’ ’em up” and that leaves us consistently out of being anywhere close to winning the Atlantic, always hoping and wishing for bowl game scraps. All the best-case scenarios have us at 4th in our division and that’s with some breaks. 2016 rankings at Rivals have us behind FSU, Clemson, Notre Dame, Miami, UNC, Duke, Pitt, Louisville and VT (Scout has us ahead of VT). Someone in the program is going to have to figure out a way to recruit over the last 5 teams on that list in order to move ahead in league.

    Additionally this level of recruiting makes it so that a lesser program full of 4 or 5 year players has a good chance to beat us. If our x-factor QB and kicking positions don’t trend up this season then we could be in for a nightmare.

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