(12) NC STATE vs (12) XAVIER Preview

Time: 9:10ish pm
Location: Dayton, OH
TV: TruTV
Announcers: Brian Anderson, Dan Bonner and Kristine Leahy

Well Wolfpackers, we’re Dancing!! and we all know what that means…Survive and Advance. Our beloved Wolfpack were the very last team selected for the Big Dance and as such they are sent to Dayton, OH for the “First Round” match-up against the Xavier Musketeers, who just joined the NEW Big East this year. Xavier finished in a 3-way tie for third in the new Big East, along with Providence and St. Johns, and were the #3 seed where they lost in the semifinals to #2 Creighton 86-78.

For those that don’t know Xavier is located in Cincinnati, OH and is only 50 miles from Dayton where the games will be played. Needless to say this will be a home game of sorts for the Musketeers. Speaking of the Musketeers, did you know that while D’Artagnan, the Musketeer, is the university’s official mascot and is the origin of the school’s nickname, they have another mascot? The Blue Blob.

I want to see a mascot fight just for the pure entertainment of seeing this thing in action.

Let’s take a look at the teams

As you can see there’s not much difference between these 2 teams when it comes to their style of play (mostly man, moderate tempo) and four factors. On offense the Pack turns the ball over less where the Musketeers are able to get to the FT Line more and shoot the 3 better. On Defense the Pack holds their opponents to a lower FG% but the Musketeers are better at defensive rebounding (no shock there since everyone is better than the Pack) and they don’t send their opposition to the FT line as much.

INJURY REPORT
Xavier: Center Matt Stainbrook strained his MCL 2 weeks ago during the Seton Hall loss. He didn’t play in the season finale loss to Villanova but did return to action in the Big East Tournament. Stainbrook didn’t start in the Musketeers win over Marquette, instead coming off the bench playing fewer minutes than his average game, he was only slightly below his normal efficiency and averages in the win. Stainbrook again came off the bench in Xavier’s loss to Creighton but this time played even fewer minutes and wasn’t as effective rebounding the ball while still being an offensive threat.

PROBABLE STARTERS

#1 Jalen Reynolds (6-9 222 FR) Forward – Normally Reynolds would be coming off the bench but with the injury to starting center Matt Stainbrook, he’s been pushed up to the starting line-up. Stainbrook may start but for now we are assuming it’s Reynolds. For a freshman who plays sparingly, Reynolds has some nice numbers: 112 ORtg; 56% Effective Field Goal Pct (eFG), 16% Offensive Rebounding Rate (OR), 19% Defensive Rebounding Rate (DR) but he is a fouling machine at 7.5 Fouls Called per 40 minutes.
#20 Justin Martin (6-6 205 JR) Forward – Martin puts up pretty good numbers: 55% eFG; 17% OR; 108 ORtg, but he has a tendency to turn the ball over, 19.5% TOrate. Martin has taken the most 3 pointers on the team and has the best average at 39%. Turner can’t afford to lose Martin on the court like he has a tendency to do on defense or it’ll cost the Pack.
#31 Isaiah Philmore (6-8 230 SR) Forward – Philmore is another good efficient player at 110 ORtg; 54% eFG; 10% OR, 14.4% DR but like Martin he has a problem holding onto the ball, 18% TORate. Philmore hasn’t made a 3 all year and can draw the foul so look for him under the basket, especially since he’s the Musketeers second leading Offensive Rebounder behind Stainbrook.
#0 Semaj Christon (6-3 190 SO) Guard – Christon is Xavier’s superstar, First Team All Big East player, and I’m going to go out on a limb here and say he’s Lee’s responsibility on defense. Christon’s numbers don’t WOW you, at 107.5 ORtg; 50% eFG; 1.6% OR; 7.4% DR, those aren’t knock your socks off numbers. He does carry a 25.4% Assist Rate (AR) coupled with a 16% TORate and averages 17 PPG. He’ll shoot the occasional 3 pointer and make them a third of the time. He draws A LOT of fouls and shoots a lot of FT’s, so without ever seeing him play I’m guessing he likes to drive the ball to the rim and draw contact. It’ll be interesting to see how much the refs call the new contact rule in the tournament. Lee will have his hands full and will likely need weak side help.
#11 Dee Davis (6-0 161 JR) Guard – Davis is another starter with a decent ORtg of 109%; notice everyone on Xavier is close to 110% ORtg making them a very efficient team. Davis likes to take as many 3’s as 2’s and strangely enough has made the same for each. Davis is sporting a 27.5% AR (someone needs to with all these efficient shooters) but is crippled by a 23.3% TORate. Hipster Cat, PRESSURE HIM!!!!

BENCH

#40 Matt Stainbrook (6-10 263 JR), #2 James Farr (6-9 237 SO), #15 Myles Davis (6-2 195 FR), #3 Brandon Randolph.

As much as Christon gets talked about Stainbrook, IMO, is the real MVP and will be the X-Factor in the game for Xavier. If he’s healthy and playing near 100% then I think the Pack will be in trouble. Stainbrook sports a 112% ORtg; 55.5% eFG; 12% OR; 24% DR; 20% AR; 4.6% Blocking Rate and a 19.2% TORate. Farr and Davis bring quality play off the bench (and a legendary Jazz sound), with Farr being more of the scorer between the two but Davis is a 3pt threat.

Who has the Advantage?

It’s a stalemate folks. The Pack will score some and the Mouseketeers will prevent some. So let’s say the Pack ends up with an eFG of 50%.

Yeesh. Four facepalms out of Six categories, hard to overcome even with the hipster cat. Seriously, Xavier’s offense isn’t awe inspiring but the Pack’s defense can make even Miami’s offense look like National Champs, so expect them to score easier than they have all season. Also, start placing bets on who the “unknown player with the career game” is going to be; my money is on Davis.

PREDICTION
KenPom likes Xavier by 4 points.
Sagarin likes Xavier by 7 points. (4 if you take away home court adv)
Vegas opened with Xavier -1 points and is now sitting at -2.5.

Looking over it all the Pack should lose and for the same reason they’ve lost games all season:
(1) No defensive rebounding vs a team good at offensive rebounding.
(2) They don’t create fast break opportunities from forcing turnovers or defensive rebounding.
(3) Little help for Buckets.
(4) Inability to stretch the defense due to the lack of a 3PT shot.

The Pack is the same team we’ve seen all season, that hasn’t changed. Xavier isn’t a top 4 seed so they are beatable and the Pack has something Xavier doesn’t…TJ Warren. The question is will the Pack overcome their usual problems enough to Survive and Advance. I’ll continue with my “it’s only weird if it doesn’t work” meme and say the Pack should keep it close but once again defensive rebounding and Warren having to do all the scoring will be their undoing.

Xavier by 5.

HEADLINES

Ryan Tice (TheWolfpacker.com)
First Look: Xavier

Bret Strelow (FayObserver.com)
Wolfpack looking to make most of surprise First Four meeting with Xavier

Stephen Schramm (FayObserver.com)
NCAA tournament preview: N.C. State

Jeff Borzello (CBSSports.com)
Viewer’s Guide: The First Four gets started

No. 12 North Carolina State vs. No. 12 Xavier (9:10 p.m., truTV): Both were bubble teams entering Selection Sunday, although Xavier felt far more confident than NC State. The Musketeers were hoping to avoid the First Four, while the Wolfpack were just hoping to get in. Well, NC State got a bid, but Xavier is playing in Dayton. The winner moves on to play Saint Louis — a winnable game for both. NC State is led by T.J. Warren, one of the best pure scorers in college basketball. He is capable of carrying the offense, as demonstrated by back-to-back 40-point games late in the season. Warren will need help from complementary options to beat Xavier, though. The Musketeers have a number of different weapons on the offensive end, with playmaker Semaj Christon carrying the load. He’s difficult to contain off the bounce, and his ability to get into the lane opens up shots for his teammates. The key could be NC State keeping Xavier off the offensive glass, and the Musketeers slowing down Warren.

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Class of '98, Mechanical Engineer, State fan since arriving on campus and it's been a painful ride ever since. I live by the Law of NC State Fandom, "For every Elation there is an equal and opposite Frustration."

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  • #47525
    Wulfpack
    Participant

    It has to be the travel, the quick turn around, tired legs, and not much travel time.

    And if we win, we fly in the middle of the night to Orlando. One full practice, media stuff, and tip. Maybe some sleep.

    #47527
    bill.onthebeach
    Participant

    Jiggs… that’s interesting… yep.. that 30-39% category needs further analysis…

    but here’s kinda where I was headed…

    Group 1 = “BIGS” = Anya, Freeman, Washington, Vandy…
    If I’m reading your chart correctly… in seven out the last ten games … one of those has scored double figures…

    Group 2 = “Perimeter” = Lewis, Barber, Turner, Lee…
    Again If I’m reading your chart correctly… in seven out the last ten games … one of those has scored double figures…

    That means in 7 out of our last 10 games (and most of those against tougher opponents ) we had three guys in double figures… so that’s not really the problem… we should be able to count on somebody…

    The problem is nobody knows who that somebody is and that’s a bigger headache for the other coach than it is for us…

    —————-
    To turn that another way… everybody has at at least one double figure game in the last ten, except Lewis ( who I thought had at least one too… but I ain’t matching my memory against your numbers… :>} )

    Four out of the eight have had at least two games in double figures…

    So again, it’s a pretty safe bet some body(s) will show up for us… we don’t really care who as we know what to do in all cases…. Now that’s not true for the Other Coach… he’s GOTT to think about all the Cases when only two or three of them will actually occur.

    And the other Coach damn sure better not ignore Tyler ’cause all we are talking about here is one three pointer and two layups and three Free throws or some other 1-2-3 combination thereof over thirty minutes… and Tyler’s GOTT ’em….

    #NCSU-North Carolina's #1 FOOTBALL school!
    #47531
    wolfpackwins
    Participant

    Looking for a big game for Warren and some intensity on the glass. I think we escape with a win against a team we catch on a downswing. Go Pack!!!

    #47534
    wufpup76
    Keymaster

    Hi Kristine <3

    #47535
    PittsburghPackFan
    Participant

    I’m guessing a 1 point victory as Xavier misses a somewhat open jumper at the end, a la Syracuse game.

    I’m HOPING for an epic beatdown.

    Either way, GO PACK!

    #47536
    1.21 Jigawatts
    Keymaster

    I get you bill, here’s a breakdown of the last 10 games:

    1. @SU: Warren 23, Washington 14, Turner 13, Rest 5. Total 55. L
    2. @CU: Warren 20, Turner 11, Anya 8, Washington 7, Rest 10. Total 56. L
    3. @VT: Warren 31. Washington 13, Lewis 8, Rest 19. Total 71. W
    4. UNC: Warren 36, Turner 16, Anya 10, Rest 22. Total 84. L
    5. MIA: Warren 20, Washington 13, Lee 10, Turner 9, Lewis 7, Rest 11. Total 70. L
    6. @PI: Warren 41, Freeman 10, Barber 9, Rest 14. Total 74. W
    7. BC: Warren 42, Lee 11, Lewis 8, Rest 17. Total 78. W
    8. MIA: Warren 24, Turner 22, Rest 21. Total 67. W
    9. SYR: Warren 28, Vandenberg 10, Turner 9, Lewis 7, Rest 12. Total 66. W
    10. DU: Warren 21, Freeman 13, Barber 12, Rest 21. Total 67. L

    With the exception of BC and Miami Warren received help from a BIG and a PERIMETER player.

    I don’t expect everyone to score double digits but asking for 7 out of a player isn’t asking too much.

    I’m trying to find correlations by looking at this but without sitting down and plotting various points for the entire season to see what is an outlier and what’s a trend. Best I can see is Washington got hot for 2 weeks (2 weeks ago), Turner is usually the Pack’s second best option, and Lee isn’t providing anything lately and that must change even if it’s just 7 or Barber/Lewis need to score. Really, it’s sad when your shooting guards can’t shoot.

    #47539
    1.21 Jigawatts
    Keymaster

    I think this sums up State very well…

    Martin Rickman (SI.com)
    NCAA tournament team previews: North Carolina State Wolfpack

    N.C. State was the last team in the field for a reason. The Wolfpack were too one-dimensional and focused on Warren far too often this year. In fairness, head coach Mark Gottfried doesn’t have a lot of other inspiring options. He has two point guards in Tyler Lewis and Anthony “Cat” Barber who can see the floor well but can’t really create their own shot; a shooting guard in Ralston Turner who is reluctant to do anything but shoot and, at 36.7 percent from 3-point range, isn’t especially good at it; and a couple of post players who are either raw (in the case of Kyle Washington and BeeJay Anya) or limited offensively (Jordan Vandenberg). This team is one of the youngest in the country, and it plays that way often.

    #47540
    Wufpacker
    Participant

    Hi Kristine <3

    +1

    #47542
    13OT
    Participant

    You folks need to take a chill pill and quit worrying so much.

    Wolfpack by 15 in a cakewalk.

    #47543
    bill.onthebeach
    Participant

    Jiggs… thanks for the raw data…

    I see Lewis has 8 twice… thanks for easing my memory anxiety…

    I think the bottom line question goes something like this….

    “Who beat NCSTATE more times than anybody else this season ?”

    … and the answer is…..

    NCState.

    ——–
    Now.. if I was going to do what you suggest which is to look harder at the numbers… I would look for combinations…

    Like
    FREEMAN-TURNER

    or
    VANDY-ANYA-WASHINGTON

    or
    LEWIS-BARBER-LEE

    or
    LEWIS-VANDY-TURNER

    and then I would turn the numbers around backwards… that is… let what you might discard as the ‘outlier’ after some consideration become the new norm or “objective”… from a coaching/strategy standpoint.

    If you can do that “outlier” one time… you can do that ‘outlier’ another time…. maybe, maybe not?

    #NCSU-North Carolina's #1 FOOTBALL school!
    #47544
    Wufpacker
    Participant

    How ’bout a little pre-game non-PC levity…

    #47545
    wufpup76
    Keymaster

    Geez, Mount … maybe try attacking the basket some?

    #47546
    wufpup76
    Keymaster

    Geez, Mount … maybe try attacking the basket some?

    #47547
    wufpup76
    Keymaster

    Indeed, take it away Kristine.

    #47548
    djcmlc3
    Participant

    Anybody have a link to the game?

    #47549
    choppack1
    Participant

    Never thought I would be getting pumped up about the first 4…but I am. Xavier will be a tough matchup for us.

    #47550
    Wufpacker
    Participant

    Anybody have a link to the game?

    Can’t swear it’ll work, but here ya go….

    http://goatd.net/79716/watch-north-carolina-state-vs–xavier

    #47551
    1.21 Jigawatts
    Keymaster

    pretty sure cbssports.com is streaming the entire tournament.

    #47552
    Gowolves
    Participant

    I think the pressure is on the Pack to prove the doubters wrong. On the other hand Xavier is playing close to home and they have the home team pressure. Damn my head hurts! Let’s hope they play with a house money attitude. With all the stats being bantered back and forth it comes down to two things. Defense and rebounding.

    #47553
    wufpup76
    Keymaster

    pretty sure cbssports.com is streaming the entire tournament.

    ^yeppers … http://www.ncaa.com/march-madness-live/

    #47554
    1.21 Jigawatts
    Keymaster

    bill, yeah I doubt I’ll have the time to do it properly so we’ll just say if TJ scores A LOT and he gets help from everyone else then the Pack should win. 🙂

    #47555
    BJD95
    Keymaster

    Hi Kristine <3

    I know, right???? Nothing like a new love to brighten one’s day…

    #47556
    Rick
    Keymaster

    That story about the Iowa coach sucks.

    #47557
    wufpup76
    Keymaster

    That story about the Iowa coach sucks.

    Hopefully the kid will be ok.

    #47558
    bill.onthebeach
    Participant

    ^that works for me….

    One thing I think I’ve picked up from the street noise… is that the rest of the team really wants CUZ to be the leader (not the same as leading scorer)… and they all are looking for him to tell them what they need to do and when…

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