NC State at Wake Forest Preview

Tip Off: 9:00pm

TV: ACC Network
Announcers: Tim Brando, Dan Bonner

Here’s to never seeing what happened Saturday night against UVA every happening again, on to the next opponent…Wake Forest. Wake is currently riding a 10 game home winning streak this year, (1-2 on neutral court and 0-3 on the road), so this should be an interesting game against the Pack who is 3-1 on the road this year (8-4 at home).

The Bzzzzz’s have shown marketable improvement so far this year compared to last by increasing their efficiency on the offensive end without sacrificing their defense or tempo. They’ve done this by turning the ball over less, grabbing more offensive rebounds, and getting to the charity stripe more, though they haven’t been very charitable this year. Most of their scoring comes from inside the arc where only 28% of their shots come three point land. FYI the Pack are only shooting 23% of their shots from behind the arc. Wake has improved their field goal defense both inside and outside the arc as well as blocking more shots but they aren’t as likely to force turnovers or create steals.

Projected Starting Lineup:
#0 Cody Miller-McIntyre (6-3, 195, SO) – He’s on the court the most, has the most team possessions, takes the most shots, and has a decent 106 ORtg. He’s their QB but he’s also their main scorer, not only in shots but he draws a ton of fouls to get to the line while staying out of foul trouble himself. It would be best to give Barber some help guarding him and don’t put Lewis on him at all.
#13 Coron Williams (6-1, 175, SR) – Posting a terrific 128.6 ORtg while taking 24% of the team’s shots, 70% of his shots are 3’s (.418). Outside of that he doesn’t do much else. HINT. HINT.
#30 Travis McKie (6-7, 220, SR) – McKie is slowed by an ankle injury but is still playing. Nothing spectacular about his season, just putting up good, solid numbers all around.
#34 Tyler Cavanaugh (6-9, 230, SO) – Another solid player who shoots well from 2fg, defensive rebounding, and shoots FT’s well (.757). He has a tendancy to turn the ball over, draw as many fouls as he commits (which is a lot), and shoots the 3 ball too much for his percentage (.242).
#2 Devin Thomas (6-9, 245, SO) – Thomas plays around the basket. He goes hard after rebounds, on both ends, and shoots pretty good (.534). He hasn’t taken a single 3 so no point guarding him if he’s out there. He draws fouls while also committing them, basically another guy State needs to take advantage of by getting him into foul trouble quickly.

Bench: Arnaud William Adala Moto (6-6, 225, SO), Miles Overton (6-4, 210, FR), Madison Jones (6-1, 160, SO), Andre Washington (7-0, 240, SO), Aaron Rountree (6-8, 195, SO)

Outside of Washington posting a 100 ORtg, everyone else is pretty bad, so I’m looking forward to seeing some battles of the 7-footers tonight. Jones is the backup PG and while he has a high assist rate (26.4%) he has an even higher turnover rate (37.1%).

SO WHO HAS THE ADVANTAGE:

A Tempo Free Statistical look at the match up using pictures.

Key Code:
Hercules – (Top 10% in the nation) If someone ask if you’re a god you say YES!!!
Frank Beamer – (10-40%) Good but not great, still solid results.
Average Joe – (40-60%) Not good, Not bad, just average.
Polar Bear (offense) or Statue (defense) – (60-90%) Too painful to watch, must avert eyes.
Possum – (Bottom 10%) You might as well be dead because you’re playing like it.

KenPom predictor likes Wake Forest by 5 and I see no reason to doubt it at this point.

TIDBITS:

– NC State is 3-1 against Wake Forest under Mark Gottfried.

– NC State leads the all-time series with Wake Forest, 137-100. In its 238th all-time meeting, the series is the second-most frequent matchup in the ACC.

– Wake Forest is 18-6 against NC State at the Joel Coliseum, including an 86-84 win over the Wolfpack last season. The Deacons have taken six of the last nine at the venue.

Magic Number: 65
(2013-14 Season)
NC State is 11-1 when they have scored 65 or more points.
NC State is 0-4 when they have scored less than 65 points.
Wake Forest is 10-2 when they have scored 65 or more points.
Wake Forest is 1-3 when they have scored less than 65 points.

Improved shooting by Turner: Ralston Turner, who made 95 shots from 3-point range during his two seasons at LSU, leads NC State with 30 made 3-pointers. Turner scored a season high 21 points in the win over Detroit. He shot 6-for-8 from 3-point range and made his final five attempts on the night. He buried three treys against Northwestern for 13 points and made 4-for-7 from 3-point land in NC State’s game at Cincinnati. He is 12 for his last 23 from long range. Here’s a breakdown:

3FG-3FGA Pct.
First 8 Games 11-35 .314
Last 8 Games 19-34 .559

– Wake coach Jeff Bzdelik said senior forward Travis McKie, whose godfather is N.C. State staff member Dereck Whittenburg, has been slowed by an ankle injury for a few weeks. In the last five games, the only time McKie scored more than seven points was a 16-point outing against North Carolina.

Common Opponents:

Tennessee – NCSU (road) W 65-58; WFU (neutral) L 63-82
UNCG – NCSU (road) W 68-64; WFU (home) W 59-51
Virginia – NCSU (home) L 45-76; WFU (road) L 51-74
Pittsburgh – NCSU (home) L 62-74; WFU (road) L 65-80

News Stuff:

Brett Friedlander (starnewsonline.com)
Homebody Deacons vs. Road Warrior Wolfpack … something’s got to give

The contrast between the Deacons at home and on the road is startling.
Wake is shooting 45.5 percent, holding its opponents to just 37.6 percent from the floor, outrebounding the opposition 45-35 and averaging 78.5 points per game in its nine games at the Joel – all wins.

The numbers are virtually reversed in its three true road games, all losses, with the Deacons being held to just 36.8 percent shooting, allowing its opponents to make 45.6 percent of its shots, getting outrebounded 42-29 and scoring only 56.3 points per game.

When asked to explain the disparity following his team’s 74-51 drubbing at Virginia last Wednesday, Bzdelik had no answer.

“Obviously toughness, mental and physical toughness. Competitive spirit. Discipline,” Bzdelik said. “All those intangibles are truly tested when you’re away from home.”

They are traits that seem to come naturally for the Wolfpack, though if you ask Gottfried for the reason, he’s equally as mystified as to why.

We seem to play very sound basketball and we have had a great togetherness on the road,” said the State coach, whose Wolfpack has won at Tennessee, UNC Greensboro and Notre Dame in the last month. “We’ve played with great purpose and that’s something we need to continue to do.

“We’re defending as a team, five guys working together – the things you want to do every night. We’ve been able to have some poise, some resiliency, and bounce back when people make runs. You have to continue to do that to have a chance on Wednesday night.”

Bret Strelow (fayobserver.com)
N.C. State coach taking gentle approach with young Wolfpack

N.C. State coach Mark Gottfried described his team’s performance Saturday against Virginia as “pretty pitiful.”

He’s taking a positive approach with the Wolfpack (11-5, 1-2 ACC) as it prepares to play at Wake Forest (11-5, 1-2) Wednesday night.

“I’m not the kind of coach that beats my team down and berates them,” Gottfried said. “I’ve never believed in that. These are my guys; I recruited them. We had a difficult day, and we have to get ourselves back up and get ourselves ready to play on the road.”

[snip]

“This is not a veteran team,” Gottfried said. “We have to get our team into a very confident place, so we’re going to be really positive.”

Winning at Wake has proved difficult for road teams. The Demon Deacons haven’t lost any of their last 11 games at Joel Coliseum, and an 86-84 upset of N.C. State last season was one of several noteworthy results at home.

For the Wolfpack to bounce back, it needs a better showing from leading scorer T.J. Warren, who managed just four points on 1-for-9 shooting against Virginia. His previous season low was 13 points, and Wake coach Jeff Bzdelik said the Cavaliers limited his offensive production by forcing him to expend a lot of energy on the defensive end.

Warren wasn’t able to leak out and turn N.C. State rebounds into fastbreak opportunities.

Dan Collins (journalnow.com)
Deacons brace for showdown with Wolfpack

N.C. State’s dignity and pride will also be riding on the game. In its most recent game, played at home on Saturday, the Wolfpack was leveled 76-45 by Virginia for its most-decisive home loss since the arena now known as the PNC center opened in 1999-2000.

After watching Virginia score more points in the first half (48) than his team did the entire game, Coach Mark Gottfried was frank in his assessment. The Wolfpack finished with more turnovers (16) and fouls (17) than field goals (13).

“We were pitiful in the first half and basically, offensively, the whole game,” Gottfried said.

The Wolfpack shot 23 percent from the floor in the first half and 29 percent for the game, forced only seven turnovers, and was out-rebounded 40-28.

[snip]

Bzdelik said the Deacons have to be mindful of Warren beating them downcourt for layups.

“First of all he leaks out,” Bzdelik said. “He leaks and he streaks. He crashes the offensive boards. In the last several games he’s averaging about four-plus offensive rebounds a game. So he gets a lot of easy baskets.

“He gets easy baskets cause he’s leaking out, so he can leak and streak and run. He gets easy baskets through offensive board play. And he’s a talented scorer, especially in the mid-range area.”

Coron Williams of the Deacons, a graduate-student transfer from Robert Morris, missed Tuesday’s practice while nursing a sore ankle. Bzdelik said he fully expected Williams to be available for the Wolfpack.

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  • #37169
    Yosef5
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    So I can’t quite tell…was it 4 steps or 5 steps taken on Wake’s game-winning shot? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DoST0K8nog8

    #37170
    MrPlywood
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    WTH? You guys were supposed to hold down the fort!

    #37171
    Wulfpack
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    Gott lost me last year, and nothing I have seen this year is likely to bring me back. He just does not seem to have the fire, and it translates to the kids on the floor. We aren’t going dancing this year – probably not even NIT. Next year will secure his fate.

    #37172
    Wulfpack
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    Agree about the digs on Barber. Check that dung at the door. As Bill said, if it weren’t for Barber we’d be much worse. He in fact is one of the few bright spots on the season. The problem is the lack of talent and experience around him. That is on the head coach in year three.

    #37175
    Prowling Woofie
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    At Duke on Saturday.

    Will anybody waste their time watching that one, given what we’ve come to expect from this team ? I can bet that I’ll find something more constructive to do…like poke my eyes out with a stick.

    #37188
    Adventuroo
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    Quick recap….did a little more stat work and also thinking
    Jamie Luckie; Sean Hull; Bryan (I love KH) Dorsey

    Average Fouls per Game for the Trio – 38.8
    Wake – 26 & State – 26 = Total of 52
    1st half – 23 & 2nd half – 29
    35.4% over the Season Average for this team.

    Standard Deviation for this Trio – 8.5

    Therefore, this Trio was almost 1.5 X that or 50% higher. Their averages THIS year are running 10% or so higher than last year. They may have had a season high for called fouls….but there is still a lot of BB.

    Bear in mind that last night’s game was NOT a “comeback by FOULING” game. It was just pure WHISTLE BLOWING….admittedly, on BOTH ENDS.

    BUT, having said that, then the inconsistency is worse as they called 25% MORE fouls in the second half than the first half….totally inconsistent based on the flow and strategy at the end.

    The outcome of the game may or may not have been the same, but the flow and pace of it was totally disrupted or maybe DOMINATED by the whistles….

    I may have a scientific explanation….the CO from the Demon Deacon’s Harley impacted the Zeb’s. They had to do many short, violent exhales through a restrictive orifice to clear their lungs. The WF players had been on O2 prior to the game and the CO did not impact them as much….

    We WERE in a Position to Win and did not….it is an L and it will always be that way…

    #37197
    Mike
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    Yosef, I also thought it was a travel. When the ref blew the whistle I thought for sure he was going to call the travel, but instead got the phantom foul.

    The last dribble was at the 3 point line, then one two three and four steps until the release of the ball.

    That also does not include the stutter steps before the last dribble when he is carrying the ball.

    I am not blaming the refs for calling it one-sided, because both teams benefitted from phantom calls. But when the entire team is saddled with foul trouble, it greatly affects the way one plays/finishes the game.

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