Dan Kane (N&O): Questions Linger
Of all folks, it’s the N&O keeping the heat on The Flagship.
Many of us keep rightly pointing out that The Flagship Spin Machine is distancing the basketball program from this mess, making sure to always call it “football class.” Our new friend Dan Kane questions this and highlights several other key questions that remain unanswered (News & Observer):
Is this about basketball?
UNC-CH men’s basketball coach Roy Williams said Thursday that the academic fraud case is not a basketball issue. “I’m worried about it from a university issue, but not from a basketball issue,” he said.
Some have cited the low percentage of basketball players enrolling in the 54 classes that university officials say showed little or no instruction. Three percent, or 23 enrollments, does seem small. But it doesn’t take many athletes to field a basketball team – five on the floor plus several backups. If Williams fielded a new team each of the four years of the period under review, 23 enrollments could equal one in three players taking a suspect class.
Furthermore, the records show that in two cases a basketball player was the sole enrollee in a class. In another, a basketball player was one of two enrollees. Two of those three classes were Swahili language courses, and are among nine classes in which officials can’t identify who created them and provided some kind of assignment.
Put another way, here are two language classes in which students would be expected to develop their speaking skills that never met. And they had no more than two students enrolled. How were they expected to practice speaking the language?
So, ol’ Roy Williams himself see this as a “university issue.” Wouldn’t this naturally imply then that it’s an “institutional issue?”
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And, all it takes is for one player to be declared ineligible and any games that player played in now become in doubt, and could be vacated.
They are so good at hiding their fingerprints over there in Chapel Hill. They make things look like magic, like when a class is created just a few days before school starts and somehow only 18 football players know about it and enroll. And all 18 make A’s.
Fucking cheaters. Theyve been making me puke for 37 years.
Did a quick search to find the post so I could re-STATE it but could not locate…. Roy says it’s not a basketball issue = It is a basketball issue. Love that one.
This article brngs to light some of the statistical inaccuracies that UNC used in its report in order to minimize damage to its imagage and deflect wrong-doings.
Another question that needs to be answered? Who set up and who got paid for the nine classes in which no one is taking credit for having taught (for lack of a better term)? This article. Rings to light that TWO of these classes had only one or two. basketball players! Holy shit, Batman! These nine classes have been glossed over by administrators and media alike.
Butch was fired, and paid, as he stalled the release of those court ordered phone records. The timing was too obvious. They didn’t Have any explanation for the firing. They didn’t want those records released. And, for good reason. I’d be willing to bet that those records would provide more than one smoking gun. And, I’d be willing to bet that the recruiting prong would officially begin, should those records come to light, for any reason.
For a group that is supposedly so good at spin and hiding things, they sure have done a shitty job of it for the past two years. Fact is, they never were good at those things. They just never had to hide or spin anything because nobody ever questioned anything.
It’s taken two years for someone to ask the question “What about basketball?” It’s about time.
“UNC-CH men’s basketball coach Roy Williams said Thursday that the academic fraud case is not a basketball issue. “I’m worried about it from a university issue, but not from a basketball issue,” he said.”
See, Huckleberry Roy worries about it from a university issue, whatever that means.
Kane should never have to pay for a drink again in Raleigh…he can bang my sister any time he wants…love this guy.
It all depends on what the definition of the word “is” is.
Wouldn’t a “university issue” naturally imply it’s an “institutional issue?”
My level of disgust creeps ever and ever higher. The pompous assholes deserve nothing left but the death penalty and I have a smidgen of hope that it awaits them, at some point in the future.
http://www.newsobserver.com/2012/06/15/2139061/former-unc-aide-was-close-to-athletics.html
The thing about the death penalty is that the way it’s written, it’s the sport/program in which the second major violation occurs which is subject to an NCAA ban from competing (ie, with football already on probation, if it’s found that basketball has even one major violation since then, then they are technically eligible).
Now see why Roy wants everyone to believe it’s “not a basketball issue”?
Arrogant to the core……the more they hide the worse it gets. Glad the N&O is still asking questions.
Time for a grand jury to start an investigation. It will take supenous to get to the bottom of things. Crowder might be able to dodge the school’s “review” but not a grand jury once the SBI determines there was fraud.
Thank God for Roy’s sake this is not a hurricane or tsunami. Merely a “university issue”. Life is tuff for ol’ Roy.
A whole class created for just a basketball player! That kind of fraud/cheating be headline news if it were NCSU, Duke, Wake, or anyone else.
I was gonna start watching Dallas but this stuff over at UNC got that show beat. Head of department sleeping with bball player, fake classes with fake teachers created for the sole purpose of keeping bball and football players eligible. Agents all over campus, a whole academic department corrupt which used to be run by the guy that is now chancellor. Agents paying coaches, coaches using non university phones and numbers so they can’t be traced, and cars driven by football players and bball players with tags traced to a convicted felon.
I have now come to the conclusion that if Butch Davis was guilty and fired then so is Roy Williams and should be fired also along with Thorpe who is the head spin master.
We’ve all known the academic side of things was the potential link to the basketball team. None of the agent/money/parking issues ever gave much promise of bridging the gap. I just figured it’d have been one of the tutors or one class where a couple basketball players were implicated, not a whole damn department over multiple semesters and summer sessions. The next FOIA step will be the names of those players enrolled, including those basketball players. I’m at the edge of my seat. Got to love the Freedom of Information Act.
Also, let’s not forget that the NCAA has ended their investigation, correct? Do they know all of this stuff already? Did they give up their investigation where it stopped because UNC-CH was stonewalling them? Are they keeping notes on all of the new things that have come to light since last summer? I’m more outraged that the state government, BOT and BOG are less motivated to do something about this fraud but it’s pretty much ALL the NCAA deals with and they’ve already called it a day, right?
Yea. This should be a real …. Storm, but it won’t be. Hell, their assistant head football coach was pretty much a runner and all they got was a 1 year bowl ban.
Glad kane is asking these questions, but I doubt much will come from it in this backward state.
This article brngs to light some of the statistical inaccuracies that UNC used in its report in order to minimize damage to its imagage and deflect wrong-doings.
Another question that needs to be answered? Who set up and who got paid for the nine classes in which no one is taking credit for having taught (for lack of a better term)? This article. Rings to light that TWO of these classes had only one or two. basketball players! Holy poop, Batman! These nine classes have been glossed over by administrators and media alike.
Butch was fired, and paid, as he stalled the release of those court ordered phone records. The timing was too obvious. They didn’t Have any explanation for the firing. They didn’t want those records released. And, for good reason. I’d be willing to bet that those records would provide more than one smoking gun. And, I’d be willing to bet that the recruiting prong would officially begin, should those records come to light, for any reason.
Find a way to get those records.
Sorry for typos. Can’t edit on my phone. Argh.
Even with all its wrongdoings, I am sure compared to any other ACC school, the tarholes will get a slap on the wrist.
mak4dpak – the NCAA is over. They are done and won’t be back.
“So far, only one assignment has surfaced, the Swahili paper that former football player Michael McAdoo wrote, which turned out to have numerous plagiarized passages. McAdoo made that public in a legal effort to get back on the team.”
Every time I read/recall this nugget, I can’t help but giggle.