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	<title>Comments on: Friday Football Bytes: Riley Skinner &gt; Russell Wilson?</title>
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		<title>By: tjfoose1</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Aug 2009 21:56:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Regarding who&#039;s better, Skinner or Wilson:  I posted the below over on Heather&#039;s article.  Anyone disagree?  I think it&#039;s clear cut, Wilson is better.

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My point was, whenever it was crunch time and WF was struggling, Skinner rarely, if ever, came through. I am not saying he played poorly, just that he did not deliver by playing great. Dont&#039; believe me? That&#039;s ok, the stats* back me up.

Skinner has never been the type of player who can carry a team. He is a good player, a great competitor, an accurate passer, and from all appearances, a great teammate. But he is simply not a GREAT player. I submit it will take a great player to be All ACC QB in 2009.

* In Wake&#039;s 5 loses, Skinner completed 56% of his passes for an average of 151 yards per game. He also threw 7 ints against only 3 TD&#039;s. - Far from All ACC numbers. As I said before, Skinner is a good player, a key cog in an offense when surrounded by supporting talent. But has not proven he can carry his team when needed; when the offense struggled, Skinner did not come through. He is not a GREAT player, he is not All ACC.

btw, Skinner was 3-8 for 57 yds in the Miami loss. Looks like even Skinner&#039;s own coaches agree with me, ie, that they knew Skinner could not deliver if they leaned on him.

Now compare what I have written about Skinner to the performance of Russell Wilson last year. Not saying Wilson will win All ACC, just providing an example of an All ACC player who has turned in a GREAT performance and carried a team.

Switch Skinner and Wilson last year and NC State wins one game while Wake Forest wins the ACC.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regarding who&#8217;s better, Skinner or Wilson:  I posted the below over on Heather&#8217;s article.  Anyone disagree?  I think it&#8217;s clear cut, Wilson is better.</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;<br />
My point was, whenever it was crunch time and WF was struggling, Skinner rarely, if ever, came through. I am not saying he played poorly, just that he did not deliver by playing great. Dont&#8217; believe me? That&#8217;s ok, the stats* back me up.</p>
<p>Skinner has never been the type of player who can carry a team. He is a good player, a great competitor, an accurate passer, and from all appearances, a great teammate. But he is simply not a GREAT player. I submit it will take a great player to be All ACC QB in 2009.</p>
<p>* In Wake&#8217;s 5 loses, Skinner completed 56% of his passes for an average of 151 yards per game. He also threw 7 ints against only 3 TD&#8217;s. &#8211; Far from All ACC numbers. As I said before, Skinner is a good player, a key cog in an offense when surrounded by supporting talent. But has not proven he can carry his team when needed; when the offense struggled, Skinner did not come through. He is not a GREAT player, he is not All ACC.</p>
<p>btw, Skinner was 3-8 for 57 yds in the Miami loss. Looks like even Skinner&#8217;s own coaches agree with me, ie, that they knew Skinner could not deliver if they leaned on him.</p>
<p>Now compare what I have written about Skinner to the performance of Russell Wilson last year. Not saying Wilson will win All ACC, just providing an example of an All ACC player who has turned in a GREAT performance and carried a team.</p>
<p>Switch Skinner and Wilson last year and NC State wins one game while Wake Forest wins the ACC.</p>
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		<title>By: 1.21 Jigawatts</title>
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		<dc:creator>1.21 Jigawatts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Aug 2009 23:20:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Found this comment from Stewart Mandel&#039;s Mailbag: (2nd question down)

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/writers/stewart_mandel/08/12/notre-dame/index.html

I believe an experienced offensive line is an important factor in a successful season. Are there any Top 25 teams with lots of talent at the skill positions, but playing with an inexperienced or suspect offensive line? Do you think these teams will not live up to their preseason rankings because of this potential weakness?
-- John, Chicago

I couldn&#039;t agree more. Besides quarterback, there is not a more important position on a football team than offensive line, and too often voters get so seduced by a team&#039;s glamour players that they overlook serious questions on the line. Having a pair of stud receivers won&#039;t do you much good if the quarterback doesn&#039;t have time to throw the ball. Ask Clemson last year. And losing an elite left tackle can be downright crippling. Ask Alabama.

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One should also look at O-lines when identifying potential surprise teams flying under the radar. Even without longtime starting quarterback Mike Teel, Rutgers is my pick to win the watered-down Big East due in large part to its five returning starters on the line. While Northwestern lacks veteran tailbacks and receivers, it&#039;s in fine shape to duplicate last year&#039;s nine-win season due to the quality of its offensive and defensive lines (and secondary, another overlooked position). And while star sophomore quarterback Russell Wilson gets the pub for N.C. State, the four seniors blocking for him make the Wolfpack an ACC contender.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Found this comment from Stewart Mandel&#8217;s Mailbag: (2nd question down)</p>
<p><a href="http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/writers/stewart_mandel/08/12/notre-dame/index.html" rel="nofollow">http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/writers/stewart_mandel/08/12/notre-dame/index.html</a></p>
<p>I believe an experienced offensive line is an important factor in a successful season. Are there any Top 25 teams with lots of talent at the skill positions, but playing with an inexperienced or suspect offensive line? Do you think these teams will not live up to their preseason rankings because of this potential weakness?<br />
&#8211; John, Chicago</p>
<p>I couldn&#8217;t agree more. Besides quarterback, there is not a more important position on a football team than offensive line, and too often voters get so seduced by a team&#8217;s glamour players that they overlook serious questions on the line. Having a pair of stud receivers won&#8217;t do you much good if the quarterback doesn&#8217;t have time to throw the ball. Ask Clemson last year. And losing an elite left tackle can be downright crippling. Ask Alabama.</p>
<p>&#8230;</p>
<p>One should also look at O-lines when identifying potential surprise teams flying under the radar. Even without longtime starting quarterback Mike Teel, Rutgers is my pick to win the watered-down Big East due in large part to its five returning starters on the line. While Northwestern lacks veteran tailbacks and receivers, it&#8217;s in fine shape to duplicate last year&#8217;s nine-win season due to the quality of its offensive and defensive lines (and secondary, another overlooked position). And while star sophomore quarterback Russell Wilson gets the pub for N.C. State, the four seniors blocking for him make the Wolfpack an ACC contender.</p>
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		<title>By: Dr. BadgerPack</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dr. BadgerPack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Aug 2009 12:49:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you need a QB to start your team in the ACC, you won&#039;t go wrong with Skinner or Wilson- based strictly on past performance.  Both have done quite well.  The all-ACC prediction may simply be a projection of who stays on the field longer; and again based on past performance I&#039;m fine with that.  I&#039;m comforted by the notion that our QB, if he plays a full season, should be the better of the two.

Can&#039;t wait for FB to start.  (A) I get to see state in action and (B) since I live in Gainesville, there will be plenty of parties to drop in on.  (Hey, Florida signs my paycheck so I can root for them after State and Wisconsin.)  :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you need a QB to start your team in the ACC, you won&#8217;t go wrong with Skinner or Wilson- based strictly on past performance.  Both have done quite well.  The all-ACC prediction may simply be a projection of who stays on the field longer; and again based on past performance I&#8217;m fine with that.  I&#8217;m comforted by the notion that our QB, if he plays a full season, should be the better of the two.</p>
<p>Can&#8217;t wait for FB to start.  (A) I get to see state in action and (B) since I live in Gainesville, there will be plenty of parties to drop in on.  (Hey, Florida signs my paycheck so I can root for them after State and Wisconsin.)  <img src='http://www.statefansnation.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Noah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Noah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Aug 2009 12:10:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Desmond Roberts had been suspended for a time last year. I wouldn&#039;t say he was highly recruited coming out of HS, but he had some potential. In spite of all that...he could never crack the depth chart. 

I&#039;m perfectly fine with him leaving.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Desmond Roberts had been suspended for a time last year. I wouldn&#8217;t say he was highly recruited coming out of HS, but he had some potential. In spite of all that&#8230;he could never crack the depth chart. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m perfectly fine with him leaving.</p>
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		<title>By: aPACKadeez</title>
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		<dc:creator>aPACKadeez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Aug 2009 04:32:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On another note, did anyone see on WRAL.com?  Andre Brown tore his Achilles tendon today in that left ankle, the same one he hurt before.  That&#039;s a bummer for AB, he was looking real good and I had heard some good things about him from my cousins up in NY.  Tough break AB...work hard...I was going to draft him as a sleeper in the later rounds of my fantasy league this year...good luck AB, get better!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On another note, did anyone see on WRAL.com?  Andre Brown tore his Achilles tendon today in that left ankle, the same one he hurt before.  That&#8217;s a bummer for AB, he was looking real good and I had heard some good things about him from my cousins up in NY.  Tough break AB&#8230;work hard&#8230;I was going to draft him as a sleeper in the later rounds of my fantasy league this year&#8230;good luck AB, get better!</p>
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		<title>By: LRM</title>
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		<dc:creator>LRM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Aug 2009 02:42:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I honestly think Wilson just needs to start the season strong to convince a lot of folks that last year wasn&#039;t a fluke.  I don&#039;t necessarily hold it against them, because State didn&#039;t get a lot of national attention last season, so he&#039;s still a relative unknown. 

If we&#039;re winning and he continues to play well, the attention will come.  No one remembers the preseason picks, anyway.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I honestly think Wilson just needs to start the season strong to convince a lot of folks that last year wasn&#8217;t a fluke.  I don&#8217;t necessarily hold it against them, because State didn&#8217;t get a lot of national attention last season, so he&#8217;s still a relative unknown. </p>
<p>If we&#8217;re winning and he continues to play well, the attention will come.  No one remembers the preseason picks, anyway.</p>
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		<title>By: Wufpacker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wufpacker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Aug 2009 02:34:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Apologies for changing the subject and posting off-topic but not sure where this would fit better, and don&#039;t remember seeing this mentioned anywhere previously.

According to Stewart Mandel on SI.com, negotiations are in progress between the Big 10 and the Gator Bowl to replace the Big 12/Big East with a team from the Big 10.  Apparently there are a few things that have to happen for this to occur, including Konica remaining the sponsor for the game, as well as reaching a new TV agreement between the Gator and ESPN, replacing CBS (neither of which has been finalized yet).  And since most bowls are now in the final year of their bowl tie-in agreements with various conferences it is expected that many of those conference tie-ins will change.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/writers/stewart_mandel/08/13/bowl.arrangements/index.html

Personally, I hope this deal goes thru.  I would love for the ACC to face a Big 10 team in the Gator.  If that fails I&#039;d love to see an SEC tie-in.  I&#039;ve always liked the Peach because of that.  Even if we weren&#039;t playing in it it was always enjoyable to see an ACC/SEC matchup.  For some reason I never got terribly excited about the ACC facing a Big 12/Big East team in the Gator.  Not sure why.

&lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;SFN: Good find.  We were already working on an entry related to this and other bowl issues for next week.  &lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apologies for changing the subject and posting off-topic but not sure where this would fit better, and don&#8217;t remember seeing this mentioned anywhere previously.</p>
<p>According to Stewart Mandel on SI.com, negotiations are in progress between the Big 10 and the Gator Bowl to replace the Big 12/Big East with a team from the Big 10.  Apparently there are a few things that have to happen for this to occur, including Konica remaining the sponsor for the game, as well as reaching a new TV agreement between the Gator and ESPN, replacing CBS (neither of which has been finalized yet).  And since most bowls are now in the final year of their bowl tie-in agreements with various conferences it is expected that many of those conference tie-ins will change.</p>
<p><a href="http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/writers/stewart_mandel/08/13/bowl.arrangements/index.html" rel="nofollow">http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/writers/stewart_mandel/08/13/bowl.arrangements/index.html</a></p>
<p>Personally, I hope this deal goes thru.  I would love for the ACC to face a Big 10 team in the Gator.  If that fails I&#8217;d love to see an SEC tie-in.  I&#8217;ve always liked the Peach because of that.  Even if we weren&#8217;t playing in it it was always enjoyable to see an ACC/SEC matchup.  For some reason I never got terribly excited about the ACC facing a Big 12/Big East team in the Gator.  Not sure why.</p>
<p><i><b>SFN: Good find.  We were already working on an entry related to this and other bowl issues for next week.  </b></i></p>
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		<title>By: Rufftown Wolf</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rufftown Wolf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Aug 2009 23:56:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think Skinner is the most experienced QB in the league, but not the best. Wilson has the best talent and smarts on the field.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Skinner is the most experienced QB in the league, but not the best. Wilson has the best talent and smarts on the field.</p>
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		<title>By: Wufpacker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wufpacker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Aug 2009 23:20:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t care what ESPN.com, Heather Dinich or anyone else has to say.  If you were picking a QB to lead your team and could pick either Skinner or Wilson, most folks would pick Wilson.  Perhaps Skinner is their &quot;sentimental&quot; pick (its his senior season, he&#039;s been a big contributor to their success of late, etc. etc., and because Wilson is only a sophomore) but I would bet that most of the folks that were in on picking this All-ACC team, if they were truly being honest, would agree that between the two they&#039;d pick Wilson.

And, Statefans, regarding this from the post... 
&quot;It is with crossed fingers that I hold my breath and observe that it appears the Wolfpack has avoided too many unexpected losses to this point of practice. &quot;

Besides crossed fingers and held breath, I hope you did some serious &quot;wood-knocking&quot; after typing that statement.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t care what ESPN.com, Heather Dinich or anyone else has to say.  If you were picking a QB to lead your team and could pick either Skinner or Wilson, most folks would pick Wilson.  Perhaps Skinner is their &#8220;sentimental&#8221; pick (its his senior season, he&#8217;s been a big contributor to their success of late, etc. etc., and because Wilson is only a sophomore) but I would bet that most of the folks that were in on picking this All-ACC team, if they were truly being honest, would agree that between the two they&#8217;d pick Wilson.</p>
<p>And, Statefans, regarding this from the post&#8230;<br />
&#8220;It is with crossed fingers that I hold my breath and observe that it appears the Wolfpack has avoided too many unexpected losses to this point of practice. &#8221;</p>
<p>Besides crossed fingers and held breath, I hope you did some serious &#8220;wood-knocking&#8221; after typing that statement.</p>
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		<title>By: bradleyb123</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Aug 2009 20:41:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>^^^ &quot;SFN: Roberts did not leave because of grades.&quot;

SFN, do you have any more info on this? I haven&#039;t seen any info as to why he&#039;s out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>^^^ &#8220;SFN: Roberts did not leave because of grades.&#8221;</p>
<p>SFN, do you have any more info on this? I haven&#8217;t seen any info as to why he&#8217;s out.</p>
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