Ol Roy. His ego has no limits. Your team has to fly back upset over losing in the Final Four, while you yuck it up in the Kansas section.<br>
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Ol Roy. His ego has no limits. Your team has to fly back upset over losing in the Final Four, while you yuck it up in the Kansas section.<br>
Check out the Inside Carolina Meltdown
I think that Rose is sick. He doesn’t seem to have a lot of legs on his jumper and he doesn’t have the same bounce in his step.
CDR has been awesome. I know the Pack recruited him hard.
Kansas has too many bodies - they play great together too. We’ll see - I think unless Rose gets an IV or something at the half, they can’t keep pace.
I disagree about Roy’s ego. Could I be wrong? Certainly. However I think he’s a pretty classy guy. I just heard him interviewed on ESPN radio returning from a soccer game and he said he’s there because his children were there and were staying until Tuesday. He also stayed because Hansbrough was getting an(other) reward. He was there for that.
He coached at Kansas and a lot of Kansas faithful really ripped him when he left. He’s trying to rebuild bridges that were burnt of not fault of his. I can’t blame him for that. He’s part of the Kansas family.
I’m not only okay with him being there and wearing the Jayhawk sticker, I think it’s pretty cool.
award… not reward.
I respectfully disagree. I think it takes a big man to sit there and pull for the team that showed you the door just the day before yesterday.
I would kill to have a coach like Roy Williams at NCSU.
I think you have to look at it from the perspective of a UNC fan…and from that point, its not a good thing to see your out coached coach sitting in support of the team that just handed you your a** in the final four…
i understand his point of view (he is part of the KU family), but he is not thinking of the UNC family in his decision to sit with KU in such a visual way…
I’m sorry but it makes me love the guy. He trancends the UNC a-holes. He actually cares about teams and not colleges. He has the balls to wear the KU symbol and sit with people he loves. That is class. But the a-holes at UNC will never understand that. Class is above them.
I wish we had the opportunity to argue about such petty things with respect to our coach. We lose in the Final Four…. ahh…. how nice would that be?
Holy crap. We can edit? Spectacular work SFN.
I don’t exactly know what to think about this. Apart of me feels that he has gone too far by doing this just because it looks like he doesn’t want to be seen by KU fans alone, but by the entire college basketball viewing world, which seems to be a slap in the face to his own team. But…who’s to say he did tell his team before hand, asking them if they had a problem with it? As a player, I probably would have felt hurt a little, but I also would have understood.
not sure i agree that Roy is a class act…personally (from my own experience at a bball camp when i was in junior high) i am pretty sure that he is all ego and very much about himself (but then again who isnt at that level)…
class to me is understanding that the fanbase that supports your program is hurting right now…from my perspective i loved every minute of last nights game, but had that been an NCSU coach, i would be thinking that this guy needs to think more about winning bball games when the championship is right there for the taking…especially since he is the single biggest reason they lost that game last night…i wouldnt really care about what HE wants and how HE feels right now…i would just know that we got humbled when things couldnt have meant more…and he was the reason for the beat down…
however, on the other hand…i really enjoyed watching that game last night…its fun to know all the carolina elite got sent home in a most rude way…lol
Roy never won the big one with KU and he’s watching Self do it…love it! His KU legacy will be forgotten!
how ’bout them cowboys!
signing bonus just got upped to 8 million.
sincerely, Slim
I guess this would be like watching Bob Mckillup sitting in the Davidson section rooting for the team that beat nc state in the semi’s. Wait, state didn’t hire Mckillup two years ago. Never mind.
I think Roy is all show and appearance. He has gotten confortable in his own skin and that is liberating. It rubs people the wrong way however and I’m sure he has alienated some hole fans. So be it. He will never change and won’t be there too much longer.
reading Inside Carolina makes me feel much better about being a NCState fan… even after this tough year.
It makes me laugh too… that was much needed.
Tonight’s game makes me even prouder of Davidson. They took Kansas to the buzzer, and then Kansas went on to win it all.
please somebody photo shop ROY in the KU sticker shirt with the “I still don’t give a Sh%t about Carolina” quote
You do have to wonder about the timing of the whole thing. Agree or disagree with ‘ol Roy you just have to love what it does to the blue whiners!
Didn’t we get up in arms about Foulup clapping to the UNC fight song?
If Roy had not already won a championship this would be a big deal but he has so…
As a State fan, I love it! It’s a slap in the face to the ole baby blue.
But if this were the other way around and he was employed by State, man I’d be livid beyond belief. Roy isn’t being paid millions to cheer for Kansas and wear a Jayhawk logo, a team that waxed his team 48 hours earlier.
^ if he was employed at State his house would be burned down and his family kidnapped minutes after he was first shown with the jayhawk on his shirt.
BTW am I the only one that finds Billy Packer intensely annoying?
He is negative with everything he says and gets stuck on one thing and harps on it the entire game (did you know Rose worked better without a screen?).
^but he gives nothing to the holes unlike most of the Dickie V crowd…
^Agreed. At times he’s very hard to listen to. Comes across as arrogant to me. CBS ought to at least consider making a change IMHO. He’s a crotchety old man!
Roy - If the team that knocked me out of a tournament was a classy one, I’ve always pulled/cheered for them to go all the way. Especially with Roy’s extensive history there, why not hang around and take it in - season’s over, there’s nothing left to do. What you gonna do, go home and cry over it?
Packer - He can be one of the best at times, but man he gets stuck on some things and just doesn’t let them go…even when replay evidence would seem to contradict whatever it is he’s harping on.
I don’t have a problem with it. The guy spent the better part of two decades in Lawrence. He probably recruited a bunch of the players there. He knows the AD and the staff and the boosters. I’d say it’s perfectly natural.
I applaud ol Roy. KU was his former team and he still has connections there. Good for him for being open and honest, not hiding and playing the PC crap. I link this to V’s comment about the WF game several years ago that we touched on here in this blog. Everyone was rooting for Wake it seemed in that game except for State fans. Even V admitted he was rooting for Wake. While V was tongue in cheek, it goes to show there is nothing wrong with rooting for the good guys. Frankly, I was rooting for KU also, not necessarily for KU, but mostly b/c I think Calamari is a slime ball and I did not want to see him win anything. Nothing wrong with rooting for the old team to win it all.
I would just like to list the following quotations, in light of all the garbage we NC State fans here about us from people like these UNC fans, as well as our own AD, and remember, this is being said against a coach who has already won them a national title and kept them ranked No. 1 most of the year this year:
And this, the pièce de résistance:
Hey, cool…how do you make those little quote thingies?
And, nothing…NOTHING would make me happier than for Roy Williams to not let the door hit him in the ass as he left Chapel Hill.
I’ve pretty much resigned myself to the fact that UNC will always be in the top five as long as he is there. Not only do I consider him to be one of the two or three best coaches in the last quarter century, he’s easily one of the top recruiters. You can say all you want, “UNC recruits itself!” but they didn’t under Doherty and they didn’t under Guthridge.
The day Roy Williams retires or takes another job will be a happy happy day for me.
im just glad the Memphis thugs didnt win.
i couldnt believe Dorsey didnt get T-ed up after he bumped Aldridge in the chest and was talking $hit. i mean, McCauley got a T for saying “and1″ as he ran back down court, and Dorsey gets away with unnecessary and excessive physical contact… but it was “ok” because he didnt look him in the eye according to Packer/Nanatz
Noah, of course it is perfectly natural. No one is saying that he is not allowed to have feelings for Kansas.
However, he is employed by someone else now, and that someone else is paying you a considerable sum of money. I will say it again — he is not getting paid to sit in the KU section with a KU logo two nights after he got his ass handed to him by KU. That is a lapse in judgment. If he were our coach, I’d be angry, too. Roy may have balls, but he just made his life a lot more difficult than it had to be.
Mountains and molehills, I say. But think what you like…
I’m just a fan, and I could barely go to work today.
This is priceless. This is why I love to see UNC lose. I hate their fans. They made the Final 4 and they’re still whining. What a bunch of babies. If we lost in the first round of the Final 4 I’d be disappointed, but thrilled we made it that far. That’s a great season, unless you feel like the world owes you a championship every year. I hate Carolina because I hate their fans.
^^You can say all you want, “UNC recruits itself!” but they didn’t under Doherty and they didn’t under Guthridge.
Roy won in ‘05 with mostly Doherty’s players, so while I won’t defend Doherty, the Coach, he did recruit some good players. And I still say, you could put alot of coaches at UNC, and they’d still get the top recruits — not saying they’d win with them, but they’d still get them.
He just wanted to be associated with a winner. Typical bandwagon fan…
This has a 14% chance of getting really intersting.
I can hardly wait to see if Bell Self will bolt.
No kidding.
As for the first question, just use HTML “blockquote” format (like this, without the spaces between the command and the carets):
< blockquote >TEXT YOU WANT TO QUOTE HERE < /blockquote >
i think i heard them say only 1 of roys recruits was still on the KU squad that won last night.
“Roy may have balls, but he just made his life a lot more difficult than it had to be.”
“I could give a s=== about that. — Roy Williams”
Does anyone really think that Roy cares — much less worries — about what UNC (or any other) fans think about his decision to wear that KU shirt (and his UNC cap which people ignore)?
If anyone thinks the UNC fan base is going to call for his head for being true to a school that gave him his first head coaching job for 15 years — you are deluding yourself.
Roy could have been dressed in a KU cheerleader’s outfit and still gotten a fat raise when he returns to NC.
And you know something, this whole “issue” ain’t our fight. I would love it if UNC FAN ticked off ole Roy and he left. UNC needs Roy — Roy does not need them.
Finally someone notices…
I put this upgrade in late last week. I didn’t say anything to anyone because I wanted to see if it got noticed at all.
And, gentlemen, we are probably bumping up the blog to the next edition of Wordpress once I am satisfied it is bug-free and working seamlessly on the test site for SFN. (Bet y’all didn’t know that there is a mirrored test site either. And no, no one can have the address, sorry.)
Ed89 wrote:
“And I still say, you could put alot of coaches at UNC, and they’d still get the top recruits — not saying they’d win with them, but they’d still get them”
I could not agree more. Most recruits want to play in the Duke/UNC rivalry game - who wouldn’t. Unfortunately, this means nothing is left for us to recruit with these teams in our own backyard. And now you know why Calipari did not come here.
There are many coaches that would keep UNC top 5. You don’t think UNC recruited even while Doherty was there? Sean May? Raymond Felton? Rashad McCants? Doherty simply lacked credibility with his players that a number of established coaches would have. How many final fours did Guthridge go to? Forte was a pretty good recruit.
Duke, I think, is different. I think recruits are drawn to K more than the school and there will be a dropoff when he leaves, if not sooner.
There is a blog post on ACCnow about Roy’s appearance last night, but I can’t read it, because apparently the server is overloaded. This story is going to be the defining moment of UNC’s season. Awesome.
17 pages on Roy wearing a Jayhawk sticker at the game last night.
Those guys seriously need to get a life.
McCants, I’ll give you. Felton was born a Carolina fan and would have gone there if Satan was their coach. May went because of Bobby Knight getting fired at IU. It was timing.
D’oh and Guthridge also brought in Brian Morrison and Jon Holmes and…uh…little else.
Ol Roy is a great coach but the year before he got to Kansas, they won a National Championship and the first year Bill Self had his complete team, they won it again.
Wasn’t sure how I felt about Roy wearing the KU insignia, or if I really cared. I looked at a UNC blog site (now I feel like I need to shower) and I see that there are some mighty upset Tarheels. Sorta makes me chuckle, but I don’t thing it will mean anything a week from now.
I really don’t much understand you guys. Too many years of mediocrity has made your brains go soft or something.
Roywonderboy ‘made nice’ all week last week to the Phog crowd in an attempt to kiss up to them so they wouldn’t hate him. Maybe some of you see that as classy but I see it as weak. They are your opponent, your adversary.
That weakness translated to his players and it showed on Saturday.
Kansas on the other hand viewed the heels as the enemy who deserved to be totally annihilated. And that’s exactly what they did.
As I told BLS in an email, if xarolina had not played and been totally whipped by Kansas then OK, maybe for old time’s sake it would have been OK.
But with fans, boosters, alumni, and players smarting over the terrible loss and most of them blaming HIS COACHING (game plan, TO’s, substitutions) it was at the least ill-advised!
PS Let me add that I thoroughly and totally enjoyed every minute of that game Saturday, it couldn’t have happened to a nicer group of fans. I was glad to see the dragon get slayed!
PSS I’m looking for a picture on the Net ot roy in that shirt, does anyone have a link?
“McCants, I’ll give you. Felton was born a Carolina fan and would have gone there if Satan was their coach. May went because of Bobby Knight getting fired at IU. It was timing.”
So Felton is the perfect example that Carolina recruits itself.
“Felton was born a Carolina fan and would have gone there if Satan was their coach.”
Yes. And even though Dean had retired by then, he still went anyway.
Link below is to the SportingNews website with a pic of Roy and the infamous sticker, all credit to them for posting it.
http://www.sportingnews.com/blog/TheSportingBlog/145855/
One other funny thing - all the UNX fans calling in to talk radio yesterday, complaining Roy was saving his timeouts and he is a bad coach.
All I have to say is this - if you dont want him, I can find a house for him in West Raleigh with a nice coat of red paint. Wish we had a bad coach like him.
If roywonderboy came to Raleigh then he’d have TWO GROUP to “make nice” to!
He’s obvious perhaps the best recruiter there is and a great coach but that shirt was one more stupid thing to do under the circumstances.
Thanks for the link BTW!
If it wasn’t for the sticker, he’d look like an over-the-hill Sprocket.
I wonder what Ben Howland wore last night and where he sat? Seems Roy is pretty smart to me.
I noticed almost immediately. But I didn’t know if it was seen by everyone or just authors.
Here’s an interesting link - a formula that does a better ranking job than RPI, seedings and overall ratings:
http://www.gatech.edu/newsroom/release.html?id=1802&ga=1
^ Sweet we were 4-0 against teams ranked 201 and higher yeah Sid he will turn us around in another 20 yrs.
That’s one player. You need 11 more.
In case you missed it, not only does Williams have a top class coming in next year, I think he’s already signed a bunch of top players for the two years after that.
who wouldn’t want to go to Carolina???
you have Michael Jordan calling you on the phone,
you have Roy Williams in your living room chatting up your parents,
and then you get to see and party with the UNC-Chapel Hill student bodies.
what’s not to like?
I had the common reaction - that is cool that he can still support them, says a lot about the folks in Kansas & his time there. Course, that makes leaving for UNC an even bigger compliment to them.
That it is making the ‘holes fans crazy is truly a bonus.
As others have pointed out, it was a sticker, not a “shirt”. Someone probably slapped it on there and Mr Nice Guy was too polite to take it off. The IC thread is funny, trashing Roy and noting that his treason will cause recruits to look elsewhere, for T and others to go pro, and exacerbate the mortgage crisis and global warming.
Previously they were trashing wonderboy Hansborough after the Kansas game. Too funny! I dare say that after seeing the IC and Dookie boards after their losses it’s easy to see that they are spoiled and have no capacity for dealing with adversity. Unlike us weather-beaten and world-weary Pack fans. heh
BTW - in an unrelated note - did anyone else hear Jay Bilas say that Ty Lawson had “great eyes”?
Word on the street is that Lee Fowler had on his Memphis T-Shirt last night.
“Word on the street is that Lee Fowler had on his Memphis T-Shirt last night.”
Did he have his matching striped pants and shackles on as well?
Let Roy wear a damn sticker for his old school. I’m a total nc state fan, through and through, but that doesn’t mean that I should turn the tv off and ignore all of the postseason and not find a team to cheer for because my team decided to suck all year. I was cheering on both sets of Tigers (Clemson/Memphis) and wanted Memphis to win. My dog wasn’t in the fight, so why can’t I cheer for someone else?
I like Calipari, he may pick up some shady thugs on his team but one thing you CAN say is that he cares about them. He cared about his players enough to say no to NC state’s 2 million dollar offer, some of the best facilitys, a nutty fanbase that will give him money regardless of results and a chance to play in one of the best conferences in the nation rather than beating up on CUSA. Fowler may have screwed up the coaching search but Cal said no to the money in favor of his players. Anyone who does that gets respect from myself.
Also, I think Cal takes these “Thugs” and trys to mold them into socially acceptable people. Read some articles on Dorsey on ESPN/CBS, who came from the worst place in Baltimore. He said when he was recruited by Calipari that Cal told his mom “Don’t worry about discipline, I’ll make sure to keep him out of trouble.” and Dorsey said that he gets yelled at daily by Cal, but feels like he’s a better person now because of him always riding his ass.
But could you imagine if he came to NC State and brought Rose with him? … ah I guess I can dream.
you have Michael Jordan calling you on the phone,
you have Roy Williams in your living room chatting up your parents,
and then you get to see and party with the UNC-Chapel Hill student bodies.
Add to that:
1) You get to play pick-up games with former players, May, Felton, McCants.
2) You get praised nightly by ESPN and Dickie V.
3) Once you’re recruited by Carolina, you automatically get another star by your rivals/scout ranking.
4) You get to say your school has been to the Final Four 17 times and you’ve won it all 4 times (not 5!!!!) - once when the opposition throws the ball straight to you with 10 seconds left (when you have 3 future NBA All-Stars on your team)
And lastly, you get to wear very pretty powder blue uniforms with a foot on them - and the ALL-IMPORTANT JORDAN LOGO!!
Ed89-4)…and another time when your opponent calls a timeout that he does not have.
Dorsey dunked the ball and immediately pushed off his foot to head back up the court when he ran into Aldridge who was right on top of him. There wasn’t anything intentional about it and he wasn’t even looking at Aldridge during the accidental bump or as he ran past.
If you tivo’d it take a look at the replay. He wasn’t looking at him because he didn’t expect him to be right there. he shoved off his foot to get started going the other way.
As for the thugs, here’s a quote from CDR after the game:
I don’t know about anyone else, but I consider that a pretty classy thing to say. Pretty far away from thug-like behavior if you ask me.
For the uninformed tar heel fan over at IC: Bo actually said that when Bill Frieder left for ASU. He didn’t want Frieder coaching them in the 1989 NCAA, so he let Fisher take over the team for the tourney and the rest is history.
That’s an ironic quote…considering that Bo Schembecler learned the game from Woody Hayes.
Thanks Sweet Jumper, I forgot about the “other” gift.
“I don’t know about anyone else, but I consider that a pretty classy thing to say. Pretty far away from thug-like behavior if you ask me.”
Like I said earlier, I think Calipari may recruit “Thuggish” players… but by the time they leave Memphis they’re a far cry from that.
When Cal’s name was floated I was concerned about the element he’d bring here. His first few teams at Memphis were plagued by off-court issues.
However, this team seemed unselfish and played very hard. I watched the PC and the guys were hurting - but they answered the questions as best they could.
I didn’t think Dorsey’s incident was a big deal. I didn’t see many cheap shots or evidence of “thuggish” play by this team. Of course, there is the dreaded “off-season.”
Noah - I think Bo was more PO’d that the coach had already signed w/ ASU. I don’t think he necessarily cared about where you went to school or where you learned the game, just where your allegiances lay.
I don’t think it is that big a deal, but if it makes Tarholes uncomfortable, I’m more than willing to point and laugh like it is.
There were a handful of folks on here who were pretty certain that ol thuggish Memphis was going to go out in the sweet 16 just because they played in a weak conference. I think a few of those folks have some crow to munch on, even if Memphis did lose last night.
As for playing unselfishly as a team, I agree. They played as a team instead of a collection of talent a hell of lot more than our team did this year. I’d take Rose and CDR at State any day and twice on Sunday.
Of course. Bo was right to tell Frieder to get lost.
I was just saying that using the quote in this situation is ironic considering the fact that Bo was Woody’s guy (though at THE Miami of Ohio, not OSU).