With the biggest sporting event NC State hosts all year upon us (sorry TOB, it’s still the ACC), I’d like to maximize the volume of on-lookers by making an announcement now. Imagine some random guy passing out leaflets to pedestrians in Times Square (UNX @ State in RBC arena) versus the opportunity I had last week (State @ BC in a vaulted ceiling library) and you can see the motivation.
What I propose today is not meant to be serious, but DO NOT mistaken it for just some joke! It is what everything has become when one is an opinionated Wolfpack fan, a paradox.
Let me also add that I consider myself firmly planted in the grassroots movement of the (L)unatic (F)ringe (P)arty, but deep down inside, we all are Wolfpack. So with out further ado I declare this morning of February 20, 2008 the launching point of the LFP for Bobby Knight as NCSU AD.
Bob Knight Bio
When is the sky not Carolina blue? When its Knight.Great Idea. Were can I sign up for the LF Party?
That’s a no brainer. Fowler or Knight. Give me Knight EVERY time and twice on Sundays.
I understand Wendell’s comments as pretty straight forward, and I’ll try not to twist them too much out of context. To the greatest of my understanding on this issue, that being the proposed courting of one Robert Knight to direct our Athletics department, there is ONE central theme. A mandate or platform if you will.
On more then one occassion I have heard David Glenn (good friend to SFN ) say that the question never should be “when should we fire or force to resign so and so” without long determining who we would love to get, who could we probably get, who’s a lock, and who could pull a Sid Lowe in an effort to replace so in so.
Here at the LFP we aim to keep this a simple, fair, contest and it starts with our one true mandate that we have the best man for the job in mind so there is no need to bring up anyone else.
VT,
I’d vote for YOU over the incumbent Fowler.
BEAT UNC
Seriously, first word on title of thread. That’s who I am in a nut-shell.
I don’t get it. Don’t we already have a basketball expert for an AD? Seriously though, can you imagine Mr. Patience-Is-The-Highest-Virtue being replaced by Bob Knight? I don’t think winless seasons would go over well Mr. Knight despite a lack of state-of-the-art facilities. The Athletic Dept. would definitely have to invest in some more chairs.
The guy has a winning attitude for sure but in this day and age of political correctness, I can’t him wanting our ADs job or surviving long in it if he had it.
Knight all day over Foul-up.
Wolftown, you can bet he might not be the most politically correct but he would get people to vote with their wallets. Unfortunately for all of us we have to make a choice currently between NC State and Foul-up. If we pay for tickets, support the teams and the University we vote for Foul-up. It’s a necessary evil we have to endure. I think people would go for Knight more as Chuck-type of emotional thing. All emotion aside the man gets results.
Count me in. I am sure Redfred will join me as well. In spite of his foul mouth and quick temper, Knight is all about kids doing it the right way. And I guarantee there are no illegal shenanigans going on.
Dead on! Almost 40 year’s of HC’ing and a spotless NCAA violation record and one of the best graduation rates if not the best ever!
Chuck Norris supports Bob Knight as NC State AD.
Are the words, “I have a dream that one day wolfpack players will destroy all ACC opponents in our backyard regularly” just words? Are the hopes and aspirations for a better Athletic Director in Bobby Knight just words?
Maybe Philip can talk to him
Bill Cowher offered all of his delegates to Bob Knight.
what about Bobby Purcell?
I don’t really like Bob Knight. I think he’s a rage-aholic who wouldn’t get along with anybody and would spew abuse at everyone, and his tenure as wolfpack AD would be tumultuous at best.
In other words, he’d be a damn sight better than Lee Fowl-up.
The Vocal Minority officially endorses the Lunatic Fringe Party!
All infavor say ” i “….motion carries
Excellent idea!
Bobby Knight is first about academics and second about winning.
aye
NC State 77
UNC 73
Mark it down.
Don’t ask why.
Go Pack.
A monkey flinging poo is a better candidate than Fowler.
Yes. We. Can!
ahhh. monkeys.
mr teenie approves this message
…too soon?
I think all these posters watch too much CNN/Fox News!!!
I am guilty too.
I am 100% for and LFP and A(nyone) B(ut) F(owler)!!
I am also a huge Bob Knight fan. The guy is an asshole, but so am I now that I think about it.
I think this is a terrible idea. Knight would only antagonize everybody, cause a split in our athletic department between people who buy into “bully” tactics and those that dont. Then abrupty retire, probably when everything is in shambles.
Come on start the Carolina thread, you know we all want it. Misery loves company.
Go Pack!
…after he walked out on his kids halfway through a season?
And that’s just for starters.
Well, in fairness, ya’ll oughta vote for ME for AD over your current fearless leader, but an interesting idea. Is Knight interested in being an AD (or is there still some weird likelihood of him taking over IU to finish the year when Sampson is inevitably banished on his leave of absence pending dismissal)?
I could live with this. Probably would be controversal, but just think what good would come from it.
Getting rid of Fowler would be like putting lip stick on a turd. Getting rid of Fowler would be a ‘feel good’ thing and that’s about it.
At NCSU the AD answers to and carries out the policy of the Chancellor, who gets his marching orders from the BOT. The faculty weigh in with their whine about coaches being paid more than professors. Ever wonder why MAF left, why she couldn’t get along with the the faculty. hint: it wasn’t her failure to raise NCSU athletics to that top of the heap.
Let’s enjoy the mental masterbation of clamoring for Bobby Knight for AD. This is a new day. The Jim Valvano legacy of ‘institutional controls’ over the athletic department has changed the game and instituted a whole new set of rules to play by.
We don’t get it. LF is doing the exact job that he is asked to do by our admin. There will be no loose cannon AD at NCSU in the foreseeable future. It would take a miracle on the magnitude of all Wolfpack fans pulling together to cause such a change. And that ain’t about to happen.
We are like children agitating with the father for a new mother in the house because we don’t like how the house is run when it is being run exactly like the father wants is to be run and she is catering to his every wish.
While I actually like Bob Knight, I think as athletic director he would be probably be my next to last choice just ahead of a guy named Lee Fowler.
Wonder how long it would take Knight to tell Oblinger, Murphy, et al. to jump up his ass?
is NC state playing a basketball game tonight? oh
Lets hope they are PLAYING one rather than watching another team play one!
let’s go pack tonight!
just please fight hard and put up a good effort and i will be happy no matter what the outcome …
a second half vs. clemson type of effort would be a good start
goooo state!
Lately I’ve taken to PV vs. OV analysis (pessimistic view vs. optimistic view). I tend to favor optimism, so I always give OV the last word, but that doesn’t mean he always persuades me. For this game:
PV: We haven’t shown enough ability to beat Carolina this year. I feel ill.
OV: It’s not too late. This team has been brilliant at times. They went toe-to-toe in the second half against this same UNC squad.
PV: Yeah, but that was after spotting them 30. This team has also looked like spotted dogsquat at times.
OV: It’s UNC at home. They’ll be fired up. They were last year, remember?
PV: They had actually won a big game before playing UNC last year. This year they’re on a losing streak coming in.
OV: But they almost scored a great comeback win in the last game. They’ll be hungry.
PV: Almost doesn’t put a W on the schedule. It could just mean they can’t seal the deal.
OV: This is an opportunity to turn the season around in memorable fashion. It’s a no-lose situation for the team. They’re not supposed to win, but they can win, and if they did, it would be HUGE. I like the setup.
PV: No argument there, but the sky ’round here is Carolina blue.
OV: That may be, but the game is at night, and tonight the moon is going to turn red.
speaking of turning things red:
http://blogs.newsobserver.com/accnow/index.php?title=painting_the_well_red&more=1&c=1&tb=1&pb=1
looooooooool
^ Too bad there aren’t any photos…
the question is… will sid even bother to wear the red blazer tonight? i wish he would wear the plaid norm sloan blazer personally
There’s no doubt that Sid will rock the red blazer tonight in my opinion.
I’ll be there, in red, with dreams of an upset. Hopefully that dream won’t come crashing down in the first 10 minutes.
Gavin once again opened his big mouth though, at the Ram Roast he promised a win tonight. Lets see if he can hold this promise.
oh, pheww, for a second there i thought you were talking about Brandon when you said something about an open mouth. and i was scared, very scared
Anyone else notice the irony in the new party:
Lunatic Fringe Party = LF Party
Lee Fowler = LF
The LF Party is trying to oust LF.
After the fact I am begining to wish the party had hired a think tank before issueing a press release with an official name. Too late now, sometimes it’s just best to go with your first thought and dive in head first.
Some of the problems down the road I expect to have to deal with is our opponnents calling us by our letter title too often. After awhile you here so many “LFP movement” references and you begin to imagine other like names, like IRA and ETA.
sorry for being young and stupid, but is Carolina’s trademark seriously an ugly, gaudy, over priced- WATER FOUNTAIN?!?
any everyone wonders why we call them a bunch of spoiled- whiny- bitches.
It’s not just a water fountain. It’s the Greatest Water Fountain in the Whole Wide World.
Fowler made a big mistake, when after we simply got into the NCAAT, he stood with Herb under a big “Mission Accomplished” sign.
I thought they had indoor plumbing over in Chapel Hill?
Read. my. lips. No. new. Fowlers.
I do believe that fountain has been used as a bathroom on several occasions. In fact, I’m not even sure it was ever really sanitary. So in other words, it’s not even useful as a water fountain. It’s just something they keep taking pictures of.
Knight is not the kind of person I’d like to see representing NCSU - he’s got too much bad baggage! I’d rather see Charlie Cobb move over from Happy Appy as he has certainly done good things there. And he’s a State guy! Or let Purcell give it a go. With those two names, I believe we could do well. In any case, we need a REAL AD - not the figurehead, do-nothing, incompetent boob (not that kind!) we now have occupying the position.
also, from a da vinci code perspective. the well could be seen as a sign of the femininity. where as the bell tower at NCSU,,,, well you get the picture.
packbaker04,
i got your ticket if you wanna make the drive. holler at me
I mean the moon is going to bed read tonight…
excuse me, I mean, be red*
typed that out too fast.
I asked one of my wife’s clients, a big UNX fan, why he had a book with a picture of a URINAL on his coffee table.
“Urinal?”
I pointed to the book with the Old Well on the cover and said, “Yeah, Urinal. I’ve pissed in it several times, myself.”
Maybe it was because it was at a Christma party at his house, but neither he nor my wife thought it was as funny as I did.
“Getting rid of Fowler would be like putting lip stick on a turd.”
At least get your saying correct.
It is putting lipstick on a pig or polishing a turd. [rollingeyes]
Grey, it used to be a rite of passage to do that.
There’s an old rumor that there are dead bodies from the medical school in the 19th century down there.
Between the two things, and where it is, I’d sooner drink a can of motor oil to quench my thirst.
Hansborough probably busted his nose again and bled on the well!
Rick
Feb 20th, 2008 at 4:08 pm
It is putting lipstick on a pig or polishing a turd. [rollingeyes]
Rick,
in the interest of conserving band width, I combine the two. And the statement still stands. You can polish a turd all you want. It’s still a turd.
I have to wonder if Purcell turned the job done. Wouldn’t surprise me.
This goes way back. Think about it. UNX had Kenan Stadium, NCState College had Riddick Stadium. The ADs a NC A&M have been flunkies for a long time. Willis Casey reminded me of my father: if you can’t pay cash, go without.
“I am sure Redfred will join me as well. In spite of his foul mouth and quick temper,…”
WHO??? ME??? I don’t have a bad temper.
I’m pretty sure vt is kidding about BK as the AD, and I don’t think it would be such a great idea myself. Him coaching, and directly teaching kids how to play the game he know so well, and GRADUATING them in the meantime, is totally different story though. BUT, with that said, it would be really nice to have someone who is ALL ABOUT athletics and especially the student/athletes, and less worried about the BS politics of the job.