Huskies Claim a National Title
A slight diversion for you. Check out the fascinating way – the ONLY way – that a Todd Turner Athletics Department could ever claim a national championship.
The Washington Huskies are staking their claim to the 1960 National Championship. The Huskies – who beat #1 Minnesota in the Orange Bowl – were not declared champions by most polls after the bowl games, as most polls were finalized before bowl season. The 1960 champion of record is Minnesota.
“We never sat around and said ‘Hey we’re national champs,’ but we did feel very strongly that we beat the No. 1 team in the nation,” said George Fleming, a running back on the 1960 team. “Based upon that, and our performance beforehand, we should’ve been crowned as No. 1 team.”
To celebrate their… ahem… championship, the Huskies will raise a championship flag and don throwback jerseys for the September 29th game with USC, according to the Seattle Times.
Turner can’t help himself. Its that UNX blood in him. UNX claimed their mythical basketball title so UNX people have to invent success anywhere they go. Suprprised to see Turner even still an AD especially after his stint at Vandy, he did such a good job there the school determined it didn’t need an AD. He was certainly worthless while he was here.
Pre-BCS, I used to make the point that there was no such thing as a national championship in football. The NCAA did not recognize a title in football. The writers voted on who was #1, but that wasn’t a national title.
I don’t know if that’s still the case, what with the BCS and all…
The national title trophies from 1974 and 1983 that we have in our trophy case say, “NCAA Champions…”
The trophies that Miami has say things like “Associated Press National Champions….”
You are correct about the NCAA not recognizing a Natioanl Champion in Division 1-A football. I used to love to make that point to all of the people I went to high school with who were at “Clempson” for their mythical NC. This was normally after several adult beverages at a holiday gathering back home. Nothing quite like pissing off a drunk Danny Ford fan.
Let’s go back, before the forward pass was a legal part of the game, and insert Roman Gabriel or Philip Rivers into the offense, and let them throw downfield at will, against defenses that have never seen and have no idea what a foward pass even is, it’s all legal for NC State though. I wonder how many titles we’d have?
Silly point I know, but what the game and rules were back then, do not even apply to today’s standards like these a*holes are trying to make believe. It’s like ^BG said about UNC’s phantom fifth title in BB, from waaay back when, before they had ever even considered naming a national champion in basketball.
Hey, let’s not forget about 1973, we were undefeated. To hell with the rulings back then, what the commitee says, the probation, and all of that stuff, WE’RE #1!!! Go ahead and hang that banner.
Todd Turner is, was, and will always be such a complete douchebag.
I believe it was before the first UNC basketball game with him as AD when he was quoted as saying, “I don’t know whether to wear blue or red.” I *think* he was trying to be funny but that pretty much told me all I needed to know about that idiot.
A title for NC State basketball in 1973 is no more ludicrous than this garbage or uncch’s 5th fauxpionship.
Guaranteed that our 1973 team would have kicked the S*&% out of their 1924? team!!
If you ever want to see how petty the NCAA and UNC could be, take a look at the official results of the 1972 investigation. I archived them a long time ago here:
http://www.redandwhitefromstate.com/article.php?story=20050215094240768&query=probation
If you ever want to see how petty the NCAA and UNC could be, take a look at the official results of the 1972 investigation. I archived them a long time ago here:
http://www.redandwhitefromstate.com/article.php?story=20050215094240768&query=probation
Hey – Quick Tangent – We got some love from SI’s Luke Winn today, mentioning Brandon / Ben / JJ in a list of “elite 4-5 combinations.”
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/writers/luke_winn/05/01/power.rankings/2.html
If the link doesn’t work, it’s Luke Winn’s column today on SI.
The 73 stuff seems quite petty in today’s world considering how these kids camp and play allover the place now. It was nothing for a kid to go to any campus, visit, and play a pick up game back then. This was a petty investigation that should have never happened at all. I am still shocked we lost post season play over this. Any concrete evidence it was UNC staff that turned us in? It has been eluded to for years and was a big fuel to the rivilary back then. We all know Dean recruited Thompson heavily and wanted him badly, Dean and lots of UNC people were very upset Thompson went to State. There was and never has been an investigation into the new cars the UNX players drive and still drive around in today.
For those of you that don’t remember Dean had a habit of alluding to the fact that he never lost a recruit. Dean was the master of perception. he lost a recruit to Kentucky and a reporter asked him about it. Dean stated he didn’t know how the kid got into Kentucky Dean said that the kid was not qualified under UNX’s admission standards. Greatly pissed off KY fans. We all know most UNX bball players don’t qualify under standard UNX admission standards but do qualify under NCAA and ACC rules. Dean was great at alluding to foul play or something was not right when he lost a major recruit.
When did Dean Smith say he never lost a recruit?? What a ridiculously stupid thing for a coach to say….and what kind of retard would actually believe such a thing??
Also Noah, a guy by the name of Lefty Driesel relayed the same story about Dean.
DT claimed a chapel hill football player ratted him out to Gut who had an old friend that worked for the NCAA….bam….violations.
Is it possible for any topic on this site not to eventually turn into UNC bashing and conspiracy theories? If State grads spent this much time and effort on NCSU’s athletics department then you wouldn’t have nearly as much to bitch about.
Regarding UNC’s Helms Foundation title of 1924, this is the line straight from Wikipedia: “The Helms Athletic Foundation was an athletic foundation based in Los Angeles, founded in 1936 by Bill Schroeder and Paul Helms. It put together a panel of experts to select National Champion teams..” So, by definition, it is a National Championship. I have no doubt that if State had been crowned Helms Champion, they’d be hanging a banner too. Don’t be so naive.
Don’t be so Naive?!?!
Don’t throw a BS scenerio that YOU didn’t earn on us. Just cause carolina does it, doesn’t mean everyone would do it given the chance. Where is out 1973 banner? ohhhh, yeah thats right we didn’t earn one so we don’t have one… sound familiar?
Weren’t You the team that showboated at the end of the game and didn’t see it as a problem but then turned around and threw a hissy fit when it happened to you?
Now where is that karolina klass?
Duke Cheats.
http://www.cnn.com/2007/EDUCATION/05/01/duke.cheating.students.ap/index.html
^^^ funny. A couple of years ago I was working at a bank in Raleigh. A duke business prof was one of my clients. We got to talking about what he teaches and where. He said 80% of his time is spent teaching at Duke and 20% NC STATE. I asked him what the differences were in what he taught and how he taught. He said, “absolutely nothing! I teach the same thing at both schools. Bottom line. Just one set of kids pay 30k a year and the others pay 2k a year.”
^ awesome! I had a prof who taught at UNC and NCSU, he said the biggest difference was not academics but student attitude. He said he enjoyed teaching at NCSU as the students didn’t have an bad atittude
coppertop,
How is this a BS scenario? An impartial panel of experts picks UNC as their National Champion in 1924. That’s not BS, that’s a fact. Actually, I think it’s BS to say that any other school would not accept that recognition if it was given. If you can find an impartial panel to do the same with State’s 1973 squad, then by all means do it.
And really, UNC doesn’t care if you want to take away the 1924 banner. They’ve got 4 NCAA title banners to fall back on, 2 in the last 14 years, one in the last 2 years. That ’83 Pack banner is getting pretty dusty…
Dean Smith was front and center for every single recruiting battle on the east coast from the beginning of his career to the very end. He went toe-to-toe with every top coach (and frankly, a lot of bottom feeders) and he lost just as many battles as he won.
You’re actually trying to imply that Dean Smith tried to convey the notion that he never lost out on a recruit? My god…I knew some State fans were delusional when it came to the media, but you’re now the King of Nutbag Island.
Would there be any point to ask you when ever said these things? What reporter did he tell that he never lost a recruit? Who was the kid that he lost to Kentucky?
You’re trying to say that Dean Smith alluded, hinted, told, implied, inferred, alleged, and/or flat-out SAID that he never recruited David Thompson, Tom McMillan, or John Lucas? Just to name three? You’re implying that Kenny Anderson never said that he didn’t want to be another horse in Dean’s stable?
Whew.
my eyes are bleeding, can we have a nc state basketball thread or something.. maybe an interview with Tracy Smith or JJ Hickson’s grandma?