A Workable Playoff System

As we embark upon a bloated bowl season filled with many mediocre to abyssmal matchups, I will humbly take up the challenge issued by humble fellow SFN scribe Jeff – and outline a college football playoff system that truly makes sense. It would work for TV and “live” fans, retain meaning for the regular season (in fact, enhance it by encouraging tough non-conference scheduling), and give EVERY Division 1-A school that makes a real investment in its football program a realistic chance to compete for a championship.

First, how many teams should be invited? 16 works for 1-AA, and would work just fine for 1-A. It’s inclusive enough to afford opportunity for every team that really deserves it, while not being so unwieldly as to make the regular season meaningless. There will still be plenty of “pretty good” teams left over for mid-week Holiday Bowl action, for the 10-15 well-run bowls that can survive in the playoff era. More on that later.

How do you seed teams? I am flexible on that point, but it should be a system that rewards teams that play good non-conference schedules, and that resist the temptation to gorge themselves on home games for revenue. To that end, I will use the Sagarin ratings, which I don’t completely agree with, but is (to my knowledge) the most consistently fair metric. I certainly don’t want idiot pollsters to have the disproportionate influence that they currently have. I also don’t like the tweaks made to the BCS formula, so that is also out.

How do we handle conference champions and “mid majors?” Mid-major champs should get a shot, but not a free pass. In a year where mid-major teams were relatively strong (see 2004, when Utah finished 4th and Boise State 10th in Sagarin), they will be well-represented. In an off-year (like 2005), they won’t be. The true power conferences (SEC, ACC, Big Ten, Big Twelve) will get an automatic bid for the conference champion. All other leagues get a guaranteed bid ONLY if they make the Top 25 in whichever ranking formula is used. So, congratulations to Sagarin #21 TCU and #25 Florida State. Too bad for #15 Minnesota and #16 Wisconsin (both of whom I believe are ranked too high by Sagarin in any event). Sagarin teams #1-14 are seeded in order, filling out our bracket. [NOTE: Conference without title games would not be entitled to use conference tiebreakers to trump the objective ranking.]

How do you play the games? Utilize existing bowls? Uh, no. As Jeff rightly notes, this would be an excessive travel burden, and would likely result in near-empty venues. Instead, the higher seeded team hosts the games during the first 2 rounds. Naturally, this is an especially potent incentive for a team like Michigan, Ohio State, or Virginia Tech (all would get first round home games in 2005), and it would thus be foolish to suggest that the regular season has lost its meaning. Schools would be forced to allot 25% of tickets for the visiting team, so fans would have the oppotunity to travel to see their team (and if your school was an infrequent participant, you likely would consider doing so). The “Final Four” would be played at neutral sites, and I believe the hype and excitement would lead to strong turnout, despite many fans having travelled already. In this vein, it’s not much different from the multiple weekends of the NCAA tournament, as travel gets progressively more difficult (but the stakes get higher, keeping demand high). These neutral sites could continue to use traditional BCS bowl sites, if that makes it an easier sell (personally, I don’t care either way).

Here are your first round matchups – explain to me how TV wouldn’t kill to show this kind of action (and remember, this is just scratching the surface), rather than having a TOTAL of 3 or 4 decent bowl matchups:

– #16 Florida State at #1 Texas
– #15 TCU at #2 Southern Cal
– #14 Auburn at #3 Penn State
– #13 Georgia at #4 Ohio State
– #12 LSU at #5 Virginia Tech
– #11 Texas Tech at #6 Notre Dame
– #10 West Virginia at #7 Michigan
– #9 Miami at #8 Oregon

Just for fun, here would be my projected future matchups:

– #14 Auburn at #1 Texas
– #12 LSU at #2 USC
– #11 Texas Tech at #4 Ohio State
– #8 Oregon at #7 Michigan

Final Four:

– #1 Texas vs. #7 Michigan
– #2 USC vs. #4 Ohio State

Championship:

#2 USC over #1 Texas

That, my friends, is one hell of a tournament! Forget about how weak the Big 12 has been this year – Texas will have to crawl through a veritable pit of vipers to get to the title game. And maybe Texas and USC don’t get there – so be it! Having 1 or 2 losses in the regular season doesn’t mean that the likes of Ohio State, Michigan, and Auburn have no business getting the right to challenge the unbeaten Longhorns and Trojans. Playing in a tough conference and/or against a challenging OOC slate shouldn’t mean that your season ends in a meaningless exhibition.

So what happens to the “left out” teams? You can still make interesting matchups that are attractive to TV and interesting to fans. How about matching up Alabama and Clemson in the Peach Bowl? Florida against UCLA? Iowa against Louisville? Boston College against Wisconsin? South Carolina against Georgia Tech? Interesting inter-sectional matchups, one and all.

About BJD95

1995 NC State graduate, sufferer of Les and MOC during my entire student tenure. An equal-opportunity objective critic and analyst of Wolfpack sports.

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20 Responses to A Workable Playoff System

  1. choppack 12/21/2005 at 4:38 PM #

    Interesting indeed. I, for one, favor a 32 team playoff format because that’s the only way I think NC State makes it any time soon.

    I think for school’s like NC State – which is to say, the vast majority of schools – a college football playoff system represents a huge risk. There is no doubt in my mind that for the traditional college football powerhouse’s – it would be a win-win situation. However, for the NC State’s, UNC-Ch’s of the world – the college football experience could be downgraded significantly.

    Why? Well, part of the reason fans go now is because they get the feeling of inclusion w/ the current bowl system. It’s knocked all the time – but it keeps interest for teams well into November – and it does this because fans and players are still playing for something deemed as rewarding. Once you dangle a playoff out there – the “bowl” games become second rate. They would become the NIT. Like the NIT, there would be seasons when it would be rewarding, but for most teams, it’s not where they want to be. And like the NIT, the bowl games would generate less and less interest every year.

    So where does the leave a team like NC State? Well, we probably would see attendance that mirrored Middle Tennessee State on a more regular basis. I think you’d have to go the early 90s to talk about a year when we’d even be considered for this playoff.

    As for college football as a whole – I think the playoff would see enormous TV revenue and ratings. However, I also think that you’d probably see an overall decline in attendance since so many teams and fans would have such little reward for their interest.

  2. BJD95 12/21/2005 at 4:45 PM #

    I don’t know – Boston College almost qualified this year. We almost definitely would have qualified the year we beat Notre Dame in the Gator Bowl.

    In a year like this one, I’d argue that the bowl game against South Florida is ALREADY being viewed as second rate, with good reason. People get much more excited about the Gator or Peach Bowls. And this year’s Gator and Peach representatives from the ACC? They both qualify for the playoffs.

    In fact, you could argue that this makes more of an opportunity for teams like NC State to make the Peach or Gator (2 bowls that I think would survive, but taking ACC teams #4 and 5 instead of 2 and 3).

    I don’t think 32 teams would be workable for player schedules or TV. Finishing in the Top 15 – at least once in awhile – is a reasonable goal for any program, IMHO.

  3. choppack 12/21/2005 at 5:15 PM #

    “I don’t know – Boston College almost qualified this year. We almost definitely would have qualified the year we beat Notre Dame in the Gator Bowl.”

    Really, we were 5-3 in the conference, 9-3 against Division 1A schools…I’m not sure if we would have rec’d an at large bid. I agree that we would definitely be on the “bubble” that year.

    “In a year like this one, I’d argue that the bowl game against South Florida is ALREADY being viewed as second rate, with good reason. ”
    Yes, but you’ll still see a good crowd of Pack fans there because it’s a bowl game and right now, bowl games mean something.

    “People get much more excited about the Gator or Peach Bowls. And this year’s Gator and Peach representatives from the ACC? They both qualify for the playoffs.”
    Again, I agree 100% here.

    “In fact, you could argue that this makes more of an opportunity for teams like NC State to make the Peach or Gator (2 bowls that I think would survive, but taking ACC teams #4 and 5 instead of 2 and 3).”
    Yea, but who would they play? And what happens when these bowls are perceived as something less than desireable.

    “I don’t think 32 teams would be workable for player schedules or TV. Finishing in the Top 15 – at least once in awhile – is a reasonable goal for any program, IMHO.”

    It would be difficult, but could be accomplished by reducing the length of the season. Heck, it’s only 1 more game for teams than a 16 team playoff.

  4. VaWolf82 12/21/2005 at 5:20 PM #

    First and most importantly, all the talking heads on TV should be banned from mentiong a playoff until their network has developed a proposal, submitted it to the BCS, and had it turned down. If TV stations are really ready to spend the kind of money it would take to turn heads, then why haven’t they already made a proposal?

    I remain skeptical that the money is really available. Does anyone know how much money is generated from each revenue stream…TV, Ticket Sales, Corporations? I’m betting that corporate sponsorss give $$$$$. Why are we sure that the corporations are going to pour the same amount of money into a playoff?

    I agree that 16 teams is about the maximum practical…though an eight-team playoff would leave the lower bowls untouched. Assuming an 16 team system….how do you schedule the times for the first round?…… Double header on Friday and Saturday with regional coverage?

  5. VaWolf82 12/21/2005 at 5:25 PM #

    It would be difficult, but could be accomplished by reducing the length of the season. Heck, it’s only 1 more game for teams than a 16 team playoff.

    Yes, but the home teams generate alot of money from that extra home game you are so quick to throw away….and they get to keep most of the money generated. I doubt that an extra play-off round would generate enough money for NC State to make up for what they would lose by giving up the Appy St game.

  6. choppack 12/21/2005 at 5:34 PM #

    VaWolf – Ways ’round that too – like a required home game. Lots of different ways to skin a cat, but 16 teams is definitely easier. I just think that the 32 team playoff would be much more palatable for the traditional non-powers like us

  7. BJD95 12/21/2005 at 7:28 PM #

    The other issue I have with the 32 team model is that the first round matchups would involve many more blowouts than you get with 16. It also would definitely kill the bowls – and it might be better for a team (from a program development standpoint) in the 30 range to play a team of approximately equal caliber in a decent bowl rather than get throttled in Austin.

    TV schedule for 16-team playoff: 2 games Friday night, 6 games Saturday. Start times are staggered, with the region’s “primary” game on network TV, the “secondary” one on cable affiliate.

  8. Cardiac95 12/21/2005 at 10:48 PM #

    I like the 16 team format for the “Championship Bracket” & really like the Sagarin Rating idea.

    For the remaining bowls, I’d like to see the minimum wins to qualify raised to 7 Division 1A wins….for either an 11 or 12 game regular season. That would help eliminate playing excessive home games against 1AA opponents & help undilute the quality of the lower bowls as well…..even if it would eliminate the Pack from contention this year.

  9. choppack 12/22/2005 at 8:45 AM #

    “The other issue I have with the 32 team model is that the first round matchups would involve many more blowouts than you get with 16. It also would definitely kill the bowls – and it might be better for a team (from a program development standpoint) in the 30 range to play a team of approximately equal caliber in a decent bowl rather than get throttled in Austin.

    TV schedule for 16-team playoff: 2 games Friday night, 6 games Saturday. Start times are staggered, with the region’s “primaryâ€? game on network TV, the “secondaryâ€? one on cable affiliate.”

    You are correct – there’d definitely be blow-outs, but there are blow outs in the NCAA Basketball tournament too. I would wager that you’d see closer games than you’d think after the 1 and 2 seeds.

    I also agree that this would kill the bowls -faster. I think any playoff system diminishes the value of the bowls. The larger the playoff, the more damage done. I think a 16 team playoff would do much of the same damage as a 32 team playoff, it would probably just take a few years longer.

    The only hope w/ a 16 team playoff for bowls to survive is attractive destinations. Warm weather and/or exciting cities and economically doable.

  10. choppack 12/22/2005 at 8:52 AM #

    “For the remaining bowls, I’d like to see the minimum wins to qualify raised to 7 Division 1A wins….for either an 11 or 12 game regular season. That would help eliminate playing excessive home games against 1AA opponents & help undilute the quality of the lower bowls as well…..even if it would eliminate the Pack from contention this year.”

    Actually, that rule would have eliminated us from this AND our last bowl game.

  11. BJD95 12/22/2005 at 9:28 AM #

    I don’t like raising eligibility bars for number of wins because it creates a perverse incentive to play teams like ECU, MTSU, and Temple (sense a pattern here?). I want teams to play quality opponents, without the worry of being penalized for it. That’s why I like using the Sagarin formula for playoff seeding, too.

  12. site admin 12/22/2005 at 1:55 PM #

    Tressel was on ESPN radio during UM weekend saying he didn’t like the playoff system because you would be forcing college kids to play 16 games, and there is a lot of injury potential late in the season.

    So if NC State plays at Ohio State, NC State gets 25,000 tickets?

    If this would happen no one would care about going to a Peach Bowl or any other bowl game

  13. choppack 12/22/2005 at 2:09 PM #

    Yea – but we might be saving our dough for a long, long time.

  14. BJD95 12/22/2005 at 2:58 PM #

    Tressel’s argument is complete BS. Division 1-AA does it. So does Division II and III. Everybody but 1-A, which is absurd – the HIGHEST level of football not having a real championship tournament.

    Yes, we would be allotted 25K tickets, if we could sell them. Obviously, Ohio State would be entitled to sell any tickets we couldn’t sell.

    And the Peach and Gator bowls are fun experiences. People would still go to those. The minor bowls? Probably not. It seems like an argument that the playoffs would be so exciting and meaningful, that nobody could ever get up for a bowl again. Analagous to saying that once you’ve had steak, you’d never want a hamburger again. Thus, nobody should never be allowed to eat a delicious steak?

  15. site admin 12/22/2005 at 3:03 PM #

    the Peach Bowl would become the NIT. How can you compare App State vs Northern Iowa to Miami vs Ohio State when that game had 18 players in the NFL draft

  16. Sam '92 12/22/2005 at 3:14 PM #

    Good plan; I have doubts as to how well attended the games would be, at least by anyone who has to travel for them — planning one trip for one bowl game is something that a lot of people can do, but more than that, I’m not sure works.

    But the real reason the playoff isn’t happening any time soon: inertia. The existing bowls are all active enterprises, vested interests (for the bowls, the NCAA and the teams/conferences, think $$$). The winners in a playoff system are the fans and the teams that get to participate (and, perhaps, college football as a concept); that’s a smaller number of teams than currently go to bowls, which makes it an uphill climb, and I think we know where the fans rank in comparison to the vested interests.

  17. choppack 12/24/2005 at 4:44 PM #

    “And the Peach and Gator bowls are fun experiences. People would still go to those. The minor bowls? Probably not. It seems like an argument that the playoffs would be so exciting and meaningful, that nobody could ever get up for a bowl again. Analagous to saying that once you’ve had steak, you’d never want a hamburger again. Thus, nobody should never be allowed to eat a delicious steak?”

    They are fun experiences because they have some importance. I’m sure the handful of Deacs who went to Madison Garden 7 years ago had a blast. Heck, I had a blast in Orlando in 2003. However, make no doubt about it, a 16 team playoff would devistate the bowls. The only teams happy w/ one of the remaining bowls would be schools like us, Texas Tech, UNC-Ch, UMd, Missouri, Oregon, etc…and how many people would travel to these games? Seriously, if you want to look at the challenges, check out NIT attendance.

  18. Waxhaw 12/28/2005 at 4:00 PM #

    I think the most likely “workable” scenario involves a 4 team playoff that is somehow worked into the current BCS bowls. This doesn’t really affect the bowl system. All you are doing is adding one additional game after the current BCS. The BCS bowls could rotate through hosting this additional game just like they rotate the national championship game now.

    It would be very rare that there is a deserving team left out if the top 4 teams duked it out in a 4 team playoff. You are only adding one additional week of travel and expense to 2 teams. The tv revenue for that one game would FAR exceed any costs.

  19. Tau837 10/01/2006 at 3:26 AM #

    I missed this last year and just saw it when it was linked today. I have long had the following idea about a workable playoff system, which I humbly submit is a bit better than the one posted by SFN:

    1. 8 teams.

    Why? Primarily because it mimics the number of BCS bowl teams prior to this year, and thus leaves the rest of the bowl system intact. Also because the driving reason for a playoff *should* be to ensure we crown the right champion… and it is unlikely that a team that does not qualify for the playoff in this system would have had a shot.

    2. BCS conference champs get an automatic bid.

    Why? Same as current BCS system. No reason to change it.

    3. One wild card must be from outside BCS conferences.

    Why? Keeps the Cinderella factor alive all season every year, and ensures there is at least one David vs. Goliath game every year. Also, from the flip side, provides more incentive to finish as the #1 seed. This also makes the regular season even more important to the BCS conference teams, as they can count on only one wild card per season.

    4. A committee is used to select the wild cards and to seed the teams.

    Why? Because no formula, Sagarin ratings, etc., can automatically take all important factors into account. If the committee chooses to use BCS ranking formula, Sagarin ratings, etc., that is their choice. But they do not have to blindly follow any particular system. All the same reasons it is appropriate in basketball apply here. Also, it preserves a bit of the unknown until the final conference championship game is played, which should only add to the drama down the stretch of the regular season.

    5. Higher seeds play at home in the first round.

    Why? It is too much to expect fans to travel on three consecutive weekends. Also, this provides incentive for all contenders to impress the committee, via their scheduling and their play.

    6. BCS bowl sites are used for the “Final 4” games, with a rotation system used.

    Why? Primarily to appease those bowl committees and to try to retain a bit of the old bowl tradition while still facilitating a needed playoff. The odd bowl out could still be played, as the “NIT” bowl… or it could just be skipped. Or instead of a rotation system, we could just choose to cut the Orange Bowl and always use the other three, simply rotating which is the title game. Or whatever.

    That’s about it. Some of the commonly used arguments against a playoff system:

    Too many games for the kids (academically and/or physically). Not really. All these kids would play a bowl game anyway. Only 4 teams will play more than the normal amount. And only 2 teams will play 2 extra games. And it is done at other levels of football. As for the academic side of it, the extra game(s) comes right at the start of a new semester at most schools, so it is doable.

    Will reduce the current emphasis on the regular season, which is what makes college football great. On the contrary, the fact that at most 7 BCS conference teams can make it, with only one conference getting 2 teams, at least maintains the current sense of urgency. And the need to impress the committee for seeding purposes adds to it.

    Will take away from the other bowls. Not so. Already there is a distinction made between the BCS bowls and non-BCS bowls. It would simply maintain that same distinction.

    Thoughts?

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